That game was there for us but fine margins, and as DC says it comes down to our very average ability to kick points. It was inevitable when it came down to a drop goal- a- thon that we’d lose. Good general effort though and an exciting if error strewn match. I was surprised how mediocre the Leeds team was. Miller is very tricky and a real threat but I thought quite a few seemed to be on auto pilot. As for us I think we may struggle to get past Hull now but in the big picture I don’t think it matters. Being a bit adult about it and recruiting and retaining players for a strong season in Championship is now the priority. If we simply wait until the inevitable call from IMG I fear we will simply be harming ourselves. The truth is the last 5 seasons, including the Covid terminated one we have been poor at home (for me our performance against Rovers in 2020 is still the most inept I’ve seen and I went to the Coleman era games). Poor performances at home kill growth and the ability to get new fans to come back. If we have a sub Coleman era squad for 2025 then we’ll lose our early home games and that, I think, will be that.

On the plus side no one was concussed by our drop goal efforts so that’s a plus!

I think it’s a misguided attempt at the latter. Remember though he has an insight into our squad development so it could be searing honesty. In other words- ‘I’ve seen the squad we’re going with next year, only a mug would come and watch them.’ Hope it’s not.

Stuck record time from me...Some of the refereeing decisions were very questionable, Miloudi was very questionable, and we must be the unluckiest team in history (drop-goal off the freaking crossbar).

I hope next year turns out better than any of us are thinking.

Hughes trying to bully the RFL. He will realise hes not the big fish in the small pond sooner rather than later, but still too late for the club.
good game for the neutral to watch, but just not enough neutrals watching

1- Don’t forget Leyland’s extra points miss against the posts - not a bad effort but I’d like a higher success rate for non routine kicks.
2- I’m not a fan of Miloudi but I thought he worked hard today.
3- I’m thinking next year’s going to be really bad.

All fair points. I offer an apology to Miloudi if he ever visits this forum! As Jon Wilkin was driving me to distraction when he messed up Croft's kick (was it Croft?)

Rourke's disallowed try for offside was an absolute joke.

David Hughes though...
David Hughes!
No surprise there.

Edit: Just watched Eccles' comments, I'm hoping he's saying "that's the last time you'll see is in Super League in the foreseeable".

Finding this hard to say, but I'll say it anyway.
2002 was my first Broncos game and I was hooked immediately. From that day (cup loss, Feb 24th 2002) I was an absolute Broncos fan, but at no stage have I ever been happy with the way the club was run or marketed, Jesus.....Chris Warren was as much use as a chocolate teapot, but he'd be like the 2nd coming now!
We went to the wall on 2005 and were pretty much rescued by Hughes and Lenegan. Hughes always seemed happy to be "at the back", never wanting to be seen as "the owner' but when the powers that be decided IL couldn't own both clubs, Hughes was left holding the baby.

Something he was wholly unqualified to do!

Not his fault and there is a fair amount of blame to be laid at the feet of the RFL and other SL owners, but still, he can not be cleared of blame. Bad decision on top of worse decisions. Shyte appointments, name changes, ground hopping and countless other wrong turns are all to be laid at his feet, but .....and I really can't believe I am typing this, he really did it all thinking he was doing the right thing.

IMG shafted London. In no other universe do we sit outside the top 15 clubs, but by grading us that far down the list, they essentially Killed the club. We could win SL and we were still going down, so I don't blame Hughes for any of his decisions this year, or for walking away (if he does) at the seasons end. Thank you Mr Hughes. I really can't believe I just typed that, because everyone who knows me understands that I think he is 100% the reason we're going tits up, but I'll say it again. Thank You!

A rich mans folly is always easier to handle if you're a rich man, and Hughes is that, but a folly? There WAS so much potential there. 2006/7/8/9.....but bad decisions and zero backing (of any meaning) from the sport have led us to this.

Thanks again Mr Hughes. If only you had listened to a few old whiners on the internet, it may have been different, but even if we now had 10,000 ST holders, IMG would still have marked us down the ladder, because they aren't being paid by London. They're being paid by the old boys up north and they want their money!

The thing is that even if SL said we think London’s so important we’re going to let you stay up, through our incompetence we’ve lost all our players so we’d be rooted to the bottom of the league again which is hardly a gotcha for the club’s arguments. Basically we’ve gone about this the wrong way and the net result looks like we’ll cobble together some barely competitive side for Championship thereby throwing away any good and residual new supporters we’ve developed this year. And would Mr Hughes invest much in that squad in any event? His rationale this year, not entirely unreasonably, was if you’re going to relegate us come what may why invest in the club. By the same token if we can’t get promoted why invest in the club? And the more mediocre we perform in the Championship the less our crowds and the worse our IMG score. This is not entirely the club’s fault but really…….

Blimey, are we all beginning to think we're done?

Being a pessimist, I've thought this for more than a few seasons since I started supporting the club in 1994. Where I've driven across half the country because this might be our last game.

We can only hope that’s what he meant.

I've just listened to the Doors....."This is the End".....

I hope I am wrong. My grandchildren have London Broncos shirts and haven't a clue who they are and my youngest child was at his first game (last at the Hive) at 6 weeks of age......It really shouldn't hurt this much, but it does!
COYB!

It seems pretty grim alright- but we’ve come back a few times from what looked like ‘The End’.
I’m not usually given to optimism but I’m hoping that it’s a case of the darkest hour being before the dawn.

I suppose if Hughes folds the club, that will be the darkest day & of course his hissy fit season was not good either. For me, the darkest day has to be the court case giving Fulham RL players free agent status when at the time they were probably worth £200k+. Warrington of course not being slow to recruit the best of them. Not much return then for giving heartlands teams over £100k which in today's terms would be about £550k & add to that £50k for Bayliss £50k for Hoare, £45k for Crossley & £35k for Diamond amongst others. Throw in Acadamy trained players they have signed & the North has done well out of London Rugby league.

when was this? (only a 21 year newbie here.) any links? nice to know the shambles isn't new.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Touch-Go-Histo ... b024802214 I would buy this book to start with. There's also stuff on club website under history. Doubt that tell it all but worth a read.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Touch-Go-Histo ... b024802214 I would buy this book to start with. There's also stuff on club website under history. Doubt that tell it all but worth a read.

No, not new Lefty. Previously, it was a scummy Yorkshire man who tried to destroy both the rugby league & football clubs now its a Lancastrian doing god knows what!

That season when half way through we decided we’d go part time, whole management team left and a squad of full timers finished 7th playing in front of about 200 paying fans was not a good look. To top it all off I was served a vegan sausage roll rather than a standard one. I wouldn’t have been so upset but it wa best part of a fiver and it wasn’t exactly like they were rushed off their feet! And then of course there’s the Coleman era. What a load of pony. Who can forget that season opener against Widnes. Kudos to all concerned.

I really enjoyed the game as a neutral. The quality wasn't particularly great but entertainment wise, it had a lot and then throwing in the madness that is Golden Point, the 80 minutes rugby was great value and the atmosphere in the bar and around the food trucks with a DJ playing in the late summer sun, it was what rugby league should be about and surely what Super League was invented for.

The Broncos are a real complex. They're an example of why and how promotion and relegation works yet also prove and disprove the idea of grading clubs. A run of twelve wins from fifteen, culminating in away wins at Featherstone and Toulouse with a part-time team, largely made up of blokes from places like Maidstone, Tottenham and one bloke who was playing rugby league in parks across London barely two years before, that in itself is something any credible filmmaker would laugh at as a storyline, let alone any possibility that those part-time players go on to push all year and are going toe-to-toe with a full-time team, no doubt committed to spending double what Broncos, it's something that wouldn't even get considered to be made for a film. It's probably one of rugby league's greatest storylines in the Super League era but I think that London Broncos have not got the credit they've deserved for what they have done on the pitch because everyone is talking about what is happening off the pitch.

As for IMG, it's a real mess. If you looked at London Broncos subjectively, it's a club that has little to no assets, a relatively small fanbase and hasn't really shown any signs of growth. If this was Halifax, Wakefield or Batley in London's current position, I don't think anyone would care that they're going down at the end of the season. That said though, London have engaged in marketing this year (the first time I think I've ever received weekly emails from them, let alone ticket offers), they're in a stadium that is more than suitable for Super League, have a matchday experience that is the scourge of nearly everybody else, are playing 10+ of their own academy products every single week and have attracted decent crowds in doing so, despite the cards they were handed then surely there is a very good case for Super League in London.

I didn't get the sense of it being a final dawn for the club at the weekend, it seemed more of a party than a funeral, but maybe it was partying the club rather than pitying it. As I've said elsewhere, a reasonable priced season ticket in the Championship being offered via email and I may well just get one next year, that is if there even is a next year.

Moe,

That's an excellent post and so much resonates with me. I'm not a legacy Broncos (or Rugby League) fan and the truth is I will follow the(a) team whilst playing out of Plough Lane, but probably not if playing elsewhere. But I'm not convinced with IMG's strategy. I don't believe the sport will remain anything but niche if it is so M62 corridor limited. That's a fabulous core any sport would love to have, but the modern world needs expansion. Aussie Rules was a Victoria sport, but they realised the need to expand nationally. The majority of teams are still Victoria based, but now it's truly national.

I see know route for a London team or any new regions into the Super League. That is a mistake. From what I understand the northern teams have been picking off London trained talent for years at no cost. That is just ludicrious and IMG have just made it worse.

This is not about pushing out the traditional teams (although I think IMG are achieving that themselves to be honest). The most obvious way was a two league structure with no protection to any teams whilst driving up standards (the good part from IMG with the caveat clubs are trying to make grade increasing changes rather than the best changes per se). When I look at the clubs nationally, there is enough to warrant two divisions including expansion from major locations. Furthermore it would allow a team like Oldham to be promoted into the system.

Whilst I prefer promotion to be related to on field success, I would agree that a team would not be promoted if they hadn't reached a required "grading" standard. The standards would need to be challenging but achievable, so need to recognise that just being in the Super League is going to make higher gradings easier, and that increasing grading from the Championship will be harder.

The IMG model looks like it's going to create a massive rift in the pro game. Whilst they have some flexibility to increase the size of the SL in future years, I suspect the closed shop mentality will mean too little too late. Looks like Featherstone and London are already the first two to fall away. More to come if the expected inertia continues.

Going back to London Broncos. When I see some of what has been achieved both on and off the pitch this season (both areas exceeding what I thought would happen) ans seems ridiculous that with the grading system, that is seems pretty impossible for the London Broncos to ever reach the SL again.

I didn't get the sense of it being a final dawn for the club at the weekend, it seemed more of a party than a funeral, but maybe it was partying the club rather than pitying it. As I've said elsewhere, a reasonable priced season ticket in the Championship being offered via email and I may well just get one next year, that is if there even is a next year.'"

I’m also not sure what impact it is going to have on the Championship and Broncos in particular. If you don’t get promoted you won’t invest in players (although Bradford (who not so long ago didn’t have a pot) and Oldham do appear to be doing so.) So you rely on home grown players and players dropping down a level so they can develop post playing careers (something that Broncos won’t benefit from but teams like York and Fev seem to in recent years). I really do wonder what our squad will look like (absent of the fact we appear to have made no effort to recruit/retain.) and whether we can expect another dog fight at the bottom of the league.

I am just watching Leeds Rhinos destroying Hull FC tonight. I think that it just shows how good we were last week, but boy how poor are Hull FC.