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| It's a long time since we've taken a thrashing like that, dreadful performance.
No go forward, soft in defence, going side to side with the ball, too many playmakers including Battye who forgot what his job was, ..........
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| Totally agree WQ.
Suddenly every forward seemed to think they were Latrell Mitchell
Why was it so hard to complete a set??? On 2nd/3rd tackle time and time again they were throwing hail Mary passes to the wing with predictable results
I suppose I can understand because they were so dominated through the middle maybe that was the plan!
Our pack looked physically completely out matched and everyone forgot to cherish possession going into contact.... How many balls were lost going forward? .... it took until the 60th minute to have any kind of parity on this score... against forwards who work in the week and only train Tuesday and Thursday nights!!
This is Fev without their best player!
Think I'll concentrate on the Under 18 team who were sensational
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| Outplayed and outmuscled in every department today. Tbh surprised we hot 10 points on the board.
Concerned with dixon getting put o his backside several times. Some stupid penalties, no leadership no clue basically.
Fev played a very simple game.
Very dissapointing
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| As a Fev fan I didn't expect that going into the game but was less surprised after I saw London's starting line-up. I don't know how many injuries you have right now or whether this is down to recruitment but starting both Pelissier and Fozzard in the pack seems bizarre when your middles already lack a bit of size. If you knew nothing about the teams but looked at them both as they lined up for the kick off you'd have to have fancied Fev - London had some size out wide with Curran/Walters/Egodo, Armitage, but in the middle of the field you had half a dozen really small blokes.
It's clearly part of the game plan to try and run teams around the park but you didn't have a platform to build this from and the halves lacked creativity, and I lost count of the number of times the ball was passed from one side of the field to the other without looking like an opening being created.
Think London are better than you showed today and James Webster was insistent he still thinks you are a good side and will be up there, but against the physically big/strong sides you're going to be vulnerable if you've got so many small guys in the middle of the park. As a poster said above, Fev kept it fairly simple and were able to wear you down.
On the plus side, the ground is so much better with the addition of that new stand.
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| Garbage.... can see a repeat of 2015 season if they dont sort it out soon
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| Any clues as to why the performance was so lacklustre or is this squad just not good enough ?
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| PH
This was apparent in the York game too
A small pack is okay if they are players like Yates who could make 40 tackles and still sprint around the park.
We need 2 big muddles and outside backs who xan catch a ball at pace
Really hope this is a one off
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| It was very hard to sit through that. In fact I left after we scored – I was convinced even if we played until midnight we would not score. We were outmuscled, out enthused, out skilled, out coached. One of the most awful displays I have ever seen. Even last year in SL when we were on the back of a few tries we looked like scoring. Maybe this reflects the loss of so many talented and experienced players and their replacements not being up to the job.
Featherstone were good, very good but ……. What anyone sees in Meadows is beyond me. He is an average half back and a woeful full back. He never wanted to catch the bombs. He ‘chimed’ into the line offering a hospital pass to whoever had the misfortune to be outside him. Oh to have Walker back. The halves were bang average. The pack are lightweight and struggle to defend the line. No longer do we have Yates who didn’t mind the hard stuff, getting low as third man round the ankles. The Fev forwards made yards after contact, we just succumbed. Dixon was way off the pace. Hodson looked very nervous. Walters and Curran were quiet. Too many knock ons.
Any one know why Armitage was sin binned. Quite an important moment as Fev cleverly exploited that side twice (maybe three times) whilst he was off.
As for coaching. Fev knew we weren’t going to beat them down the middle so really organised slide defence out wide and all we did was go from left to right and back and get clobbered. Only in the second half did we vary it and use the kick option.
A day to forget, quickly.
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| Any one know why Armitage was sin binned.
Kicking the ball away in the in goal when it was tap 20 to them.
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| Any after match interviews with Wardy? Be interesting to hear his thoughts.
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Quote ="Exiled down south"Any after match interviews with Wardy? Be interesting to hear his thoughts.'"
Interesting what he said over the Armitage yellow card. Essentially in RU if the ball hits the corner flag & comes back onto the field of play it's play on which is why Armitage kicked it dead & thus done for dissent. I have no idea if that rule is correct or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRMCiyzh1uM
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Quote ="Exiled down south"Any after match interviews with Wardy? Be interesting to hear his thoughts.'"
Interesting what he said over the Armitage yellow card. Essentially in RU if the ball hits the corner flag & comes back onto the field of play it's play on which is why Armitage kicked it dead & thus done for dissent. I have no idea if that rule is correct or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRMCiyzh1uM
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Quote ="Torbreck"Interesting what he said over the Armitage yellow card. Essentially in RU if the ball hits the corner flag & comes back onto the field of play it's play on which is why Armitage kicked it dead & thus done for dissent. I have no idea if that rule is correct or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRMCiyzh1uM'"
He's a recent convert from union so I assume he may have been confused?
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Quote ="Torbreck"Interesting what he said over the Armitage yellow card. Essentially in RU if the ball hits the corner flag & comes back onto the field of play it's play on which is why Armitage kicked it dead & thus done for dissent. I have no idea if that rule is correct or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRMCiyzh1uM'"
He's a recent convert from union so I assume he may have been confused?
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| Quote ="Bedfordshire Bronco"PH
This was apparent in the York game too
A small pack is okay if they are players like Yates who could make 40 tackles and still sprint around the park.
We need 2 big muddles and outside backs who xan catch a ball at pace
Really hope this is a one off'"
Yes, it was noticeable when York brought the likes of Green on that London struggled.
If Allgood plays next week and you start Butler as well as Battye ie one of them nominally plays at 13, you will probably be a bit more solid up the middle.
The irony is we went to the opposite extreme, Parata, who I thought would love the artificial pitch, was injured so we went with a prop (Bussey) playing hooker for about 70 minutes, but it worked.
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| Quote ="Torbreck" I have no idea if that rule is correct or not.'" Correct in RU if the ball bounces off corner flag without otherwise being in touch or touch-in-goal then play continues unless it was grounded against the post.
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| I was stood very near the incident and Armitage was clearly confused. I assume the ref was justified in issuing a yellow but it was very soft .
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| Quote ="Hockley Bronco"I was stood very near the incident and Armitage was clearly confused. I assume the ref was justified in issuing a yellow but it was very soft .'"
He was playing union until recently..... He's a pro league player now... Learn the rules
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| Quote ="Bedfordshire Bronco"He was playing union until recently..... He's a pro league player now... Learn the rules'"
To be fair there are some seasoned RL pros who don't know all the rules. Fev nearly lost a game a few years ago because having just taken the lead with a drop out, one of our players didn't realise you can't gather a short kick off until it has gone 10m, even if you are the defending team, fortunately our opponents missed the resulting penalty.
Other rules some RL players don't seem to know...
You can't take a 20m tap if all your own players aren't back behind the 20m line.
The tap following a 40-20 kick takes place from 20m in not 10m in (some refs seem to forget this too).
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| Armitage actually said he didn't know the rules! He had already been warned about a similar thing earlier in the game
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| Squad is not strong or deep enough to challenge the main side in the league (Toulouse, Leigh and Fev).
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| The rumours have been confirmed. We have signed Ed Chambers on loan from Salford, for one month.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"The rumours have been confirmed. We have signed Ed Chambers on loan from Salford, for one month.'"
What rumours were those?
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Squad is not strong or deep enough to challenge the main side in the league (Toulouse, Leigh and Fev).'"
Agreed.
If we make the top half it'll be a good season, top 5 an excellent season.
2020 for me is for rebuilding, blooding some young 'uns and maybe having a real crack at promotion in 2021.
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| Quote ="RfE"Agreed.
If we make the top half it'll be a good season, top 5 an excellent season.
2020 for me is for rebuilding, blooding some young 'uns and maybe having a real crack at promotion in 2021.'"
Even more of a shame we didn't enter the 1895 Cup if we are blooding youngsters and not caring too much about the league this year
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| I think we care about the league, I just dont think we have a strong enough squad. Some decent recruitment but not enough (for me) to win it. Bit like last season and staying up. Just did not have enough in the squad, despite how well we done. I think we will make the top 5, we will be too strong for most, just not enough when it matters.
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| Not sure why you say we don't care about the league.
If that's case what do we care about? 1895 cup is an interesting one, there are constant calls a cross sport to reduce the number of games over a season, so why introduce another cup. I think I am correct in that all pro teams are obliged to enter the CC. Catalan and Toronto have a get out because of governing body stuff.
So for us, our focus has to be the league
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