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| Quote ="The Lambeth Quin"Based on what? Prejudice? Dislike of Rugby Union? Or a nostalgoc view of the past?'"
Just ignore him.
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| Quote ="The Lambeth Quin"Based on what? Prejudice? Dislike of Rugby Union? Or a nostalgoc view of the past?'"
Lambeth Quin, I fully supported the return to The Stoop as it had so many warm memories for us especially The World Club Challenge games, again adopting the name seemed to be a great marketing ploy, I felt it would bring us some good major sponsors and we would benefit all round, but I now see that I was completely wrong and I am willing to raise my hand when I am. The Majority of union supporters had no problem taking the money off us to use The Stoop, but they never liked our name association and we gained nothing in the end it was like an anchor dragging us down. The sooner we accept the new name whatever it may be and that one day we Must leave The Stoop.
You mention Prejudice! that comes from some of our supporters against any change! I was a member of Orrell RUFC for a long time and yes I was fortunate in the draw to get many tickets and visit Twickenham, though the atmosphere was great unlike 10,000 at Leigh today for England V Wales I never enjoyed the game as much as League which I was born into.
I have no Prejudice like many, I will always accept any decision made by a majority and just get one with it, unlike some who seem to want to damage Our Club. I fully support David Hughes and respect everything he has done and is doing, if only many others did like Saints fans seem to worship their owner.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"So why get rid of Buck and Dusty?'"
All Hughes said was they relate to much to the old failed brand, otherwise, I have no idea.
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| Quote ="tim"All Hughes said was they relate to much to the old failed brand, otherwise, I have no idea.'"
I am sad to see them go, but if that is what David feels or is being advised I am sure they will come up with a really suitable mascot which we can market!
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| Quote ="tim"All Hughes said was they relate to much to the old failed brand, otherwise, I have no idea.'"
Did he actually say that?
Absolutely priceless. You couldn't make it up.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I am sad to see them go, but if that is what David feels or is being advised I am sure they will come up with a really suitable mascot which we can market!'"
So a Bronco is an unsuitable mascot for a team called London Broncos? A Bronco that has been around the club for longer than 95% of its players and staff. People ramble on about history - they loved it when we had a shirt that represented the London Broncos era, yet you advocate getting rid of Buck and Dusty, "coz Hughes sed so". Lunacy.
And you don't market a mascot.
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| If only we can be assured that Homer won't be inside the carcass, I don't really care what the mascot is called.
Maybe Mr Hughes is trying to fool all of us? We'll soon know.
Tuesday arvo beckons ...
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| Quote ="poplar panther"No it was Gus Mackay and he said it me directly!'"
I thought as much. I'm relying on your reliability as I have told several people about this fact
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| Interesting if Buck and Dusty are dispatched to the knackers yard and to be replaced by what? Can't wait until next week.
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| The failed brand is a Super League Club in London, regardless of name, owners or ground.
The sport is alive and well at a grassroots level, but the majority of those playing it are not interested in watching it, especially the kids.
It has been very noticeable, the number of kids that were involved in the match day events, heading away from the Stoop rather than into it as kickoff approaches, despite having free tickets, and those that do stay bale out before the end of the game.
The club need to carry out a survey of the kids for the reasons. One of which will be the cost of chips, and soft drinks. The prices maybe okay for the average middle class RU fan, but not the working class kids that play RL. This is one area that should be renegotiated in the Stadium lease.
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| Anybody know where the relaunch is being held???
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"The failed brand is a Super League Club in London, regardless of name, owners or ground.
The sport is alive and well at a grassroots level, but the majority of those playing it are not interested in watching it, especially the kids.
It has been very noticeable, the number of kids that were involved in the match day events, heading away from the Stoop rather than into it as kickoff approaches, despite having free tickets, and those that do stay bale out before the end of the game.'"
I think your first statement is far sweeping about failed brands in the heartlands of the game for a lot longer period clubs did not attract large crowds, Huddersfield in such a Large Stadium often only used to get average of 5,000? then St Helens this last season having to move down the road to Widnes a few miles suffered such a big drop in their attendances.
Yes I accept we have a problem, the grassroots game as you state is more healthy in the South than many areas of the North, but we do not seem to be able to attract the players, but you have to understand the area size of London and the clubs are spread not all based in Twickenham. Kids are a problem that they do not stay and their parents we know that.
But the game has worked in London we have had attendances in the past which at least were equal to many Northern clubs, we need to get the success on the pitch and the marketing completely right, also the are of the ground with good travel connections has to be so right.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red". One of which will be the cost of chips, and soft drinks. The prices maybe okay for the average middle class RU fan, but not the working class kids that play RL. '"
You were doing well until that point. Laughable comment.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"The club need to carry out a survey of the kids for the reasons. One of which will be the cost of chips, and soft drinks. The prices maybe okay for the average middle class RU fan, but not the working class kids that play RL. This is one area that should be renegotiated in the Stadium lease.'"
I doubt the club can do anything about that. Quins RU franchise out the catering for events at the stadium. I strongly suspect any tenants will be bound by that deal as part of renting the ground.
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| So Lister you've never seen any kids and parents walkaway from the Kiosk after been seeing the price of the chips or burgers or heard their comments?
Your match day experience may involve a couple of beers, kids look forward to a bit of junk food, it is out of their price range. Alcohol in relative terms is cheap within the ground, unless you compare it with Lloyds in Twickenham.
Halfdan understand that, hence my last sentence, it needs renegotiating.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"So Lister you've never seen any kids and parents walkaway from the Kiosk after been seeing the price of the chips or burgers or heard their comments?
Your match day experience may involve a couple of beers, kids look forward to a bit of junk food, it is out of their price range. Alcohol in relative terms is cheap within the ground, unless you compare it with Lloyds in Twickenham.
Halfdan understand that, hence my last sentence, it needs renegotiating.'"
"working class kids that play RL"
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"
Halfdan understand that, hence my last sentence, it needs renegotiating.'"
Such franchise deals usually grant exclusivity for sales at all events at the location. As such it's highly unlikely to be something the club can renegotiate. The only way out of any existing deal is likely to involve paying compensation to the franchise holder which rather defeats the point of doing it as we'd have to recoup that money from the new food provider, with an obvious impact on to their pricing structure.
Must admit it is a shame the catering is seen as quite such a cash cow. Whilst I hardly ever eat at the game I've often heard away fans moaning and I do feel sorry for those with a family to feed who leave food after a long journey south to eating in the ground. That's sports grounds for you though, I certainly won't be eating at Wembley next weekend either.
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| Yeah no working class football fans ever go to Premier League games or Wembley cos the chips and burgers are overpriced!! Get a grip!! That is not the reason. A poor team and an unfashionable club are the reason. In fact its an unfashionable club, playing an unfashionable sport with a poor team in someone elses stadium. The reality is franchises are not made of this! We need serious business backing and some better RL PR from the RFL. All the little things everyone moans about on here make very little difference.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Yeah no working class football fans ever go to Premier League games or Wembley cos the chips and burgers are overpriced!! Get a grip!! That is not the reason. A poor team and an unfashionable club are the reason. In fact its an unfashionable club, playing an unfashionable sport with a poor team in someone elses stadium. The reality is franchises are not made of this! We need serious business backing and some better RL PR from the RFL. All the little things everyone moans about on here make very little difference.'"
Exactly the Truth!
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| Some posters obviously do not have or do not take their kids out.
Having been to all the PL and Championship grounds bar 1, I have never seen prices that mirror those of the SToop. Wembley is another case, I refuse to buy anything other than my match tickets.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"Some posters obviously do not have or do not take their kids out.
Having been to all the PL and Championship grounds bar 1, I have never seen prices that mirror those of the SToop. Wembley is another case, I refuse to buy anything other than my match tickets.'"
This is the South East you balloon, everything is more expensive. Prices for beer, food etc at the ground are standard. All football and RU grounds are the same.
I had Sausage+Chips+Gravy at a chip shop near Old Trafford and it cost me £5. Explain that one.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"Some posters obviously do not have or do not take their kids out.
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fifteen quid for an adult ticket, fiver for a kids, say 12 quid on 4 pints, fiver for 2 cokes, 12 for 2 burgers and chips
1 Adult, 2 kids = change out of 60 quid.
I bought my nephew a ticket to stamford bridge for his birthday.......94 notes.
Get a grip.
As for your kids look forward to a bit of junk food, , I would put that down to alot of things, but least of all The Stoop or The Club.
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| Well said.
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| Quote ="Riverside Red"The failed brand is a Super League Club in London, regardless of name, owners or ground.
The sport is alive and well at a grassroots level, but the majority of those playing it are not interested in watching it, especially the kids.
It has been very noticeable, the number of kids that were involved in the match day events, heading away from the Stoop rather than into it as kickoff approaches, despite having free tickets, and those that do stay bale out before the end of the game.
The club need to carry out a survey of the kids for the reasons. One of which will be the cost of chips, and soft drinks. The prices maybe okay for the average middle class RU fan, but not the working class kids that play RL. This is one area that should be renegotiated in the Stadium lease.'"
It is not the kids fault, the parents who bring them don't want to stay. I am sure th kids do but the parent who brings them and their mates leave and that's that.
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