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| So, what would be your definition of exciting news ?
Mine
Significant investment to replace / support DH
LB to come out and state their 5 year plan, specifically all out for SL in 2021 (part time in necessary)
Continuation of academy (or equivalent) / reserves
Prompt return of Walker and Cunningham
Bring back the recent Academy products, Bienek and Davis
Long term contract for Butler
Sign up some significantly better half backs and hooker
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| We’d be doing really well if even ONE of the things on your list happened!
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| My initial hope was something along the lines of some new investment/help for DH, and a clear plan that lays out how the club are looking to get back into SL. With the talk on the other thread about PT (I know this is just a rumour, but ML did nothing to really dampen the flames, so it is still an option) I am expecting something maybe a little underwhelming. Maybe something like "We have signed a deal to stay at Ealing for the next 5 years". Nothing wrong with that of course, but not exactly ground breaking. Time will tell
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| I think it will be something like. They are changing Trailfinders Lager for Fosters. I know that it is quite important for some of our fans to know.
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| I heard we were bringing back the VB buckets. Always liked the Fosters sponsored shirts though.
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| I think the Fosters kit was the best kit that London Broncos have worn.
I watched the Canberra game from 1997 on TV the other day and was struck how good that kit looked.
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| Yep agree. What we should play in as Broncos. Fair enough can pay 40 year homage to Fulham with black but that isn't Broncos.
Maybe that's ML exciting news, returning to the quarters. Leave out the white cross though.
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| Quote ="Victor"I think the Fosters kit was the best kit that London Broncos have worn.
I watched the Canberra game from 1997 on TV the other day and was struck how good that kit looked.'"
And how good the team was
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| Investment from a big backer to transition David out. Trailfinders possibly
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Investment from a big backer to transition David out. Trailfinders possibly'"
I'd settle for Jeff Bezos myself. The Amazon logo would look good on the quarters.
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| We don't need another sugar daddy - stability and a plan is what's required. we have the resources and commitment available right now in our supporter base; a planned transition and we'll be ready for anything!
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| Quote ="nkpom"We have the resources and commitment available right now in our supporter base; '"
Does that translate to enough money to run a full time rugby league club ?
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| Can do of course. We're seeing successful supporter owned clubs in soccer - Exeter City [urlhttps://www.weownexetercityfc.co.uk[/urlfor example. The level they operate at will be roughly equivalent to Super League financially, and I think less than 15% of their income comes from Trust members themselves. They're also smart enough to know that they don't have all the answers, and so the Exeter City board is not just Trust members. And they had to pick up the Club from CVAs etc. - not the type of transition I was referring to!!
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| Quote ="nkpom"Can do of course. We're seeing successful supporter owned clubs in soccer - Exeter City [urlhttps://www.weownexetercityfc.co.uk[/urlfor example. The level they operate at will be roughly equivalent to Super League financially, and I think less than 15% of their income comes from Trust members themselves. They're also smart enough to know that they don't have all the answers, and so the Exeter City board is not just Trust members. And they had to pick up the Club from CVAs etc. - not the type of transition I was referring to!!'"
Just keeping this simple for my benefit.
Gueestimate, LB must cost around £2.5m (wages and running costs) / annum to run with limited income from 3rd parties.
If a Trust has say 50 members would they be each stumping up £50k each per annum ?
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| Plummy It is not beyond the wit of man with hard work and dedication to break even as a pro Rugby League team. As I said Exeter's Trust members cover less than 15% of the costs; biggest factor is RFL payments dependent on league position and next TV deal. You know my politics; I am heavily involved in the LBSA and club ownership is not among their fundamental objectives [urlhttps://www.lbsa.org.uk/about-us/[/url. It has always been my personal opinion though, and I'm sure I've bored you with it plenty of times! I'm sure we have the capability and drive to make a long term success of a supporter owned Club; we have plenty of people like you who work tirelessly for the game they love; benefiting the pro club and the wider Rugby League community in London.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Just keeping this simple for my benefit.
Gueestimate, LB must cost around £2.5m (wages and running costs) / annum to run with limited income from 3rd parties.
If a Trust has say 50 members would they be each stumping up £50k each per annum ?'"
Seems so easy doesn't it. Maybe 50 Exeter City fans will stump up the cash
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| Mocking your own supporters! Class
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| Cmon chaps, we all have the same goal (I think).
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| Quote ="Honkytonk"Cmon chaps, we all have the same goal (I think).'"
I must have misread the title of the thread, sorry
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| NKpom are you living in a dream world or a fools paradise. It costs approx £2.5 M per annum to run the club. That means £50K per annum from 50 supporters. I should think 90% of the supporters dont make that per person per annum never mind donate to run a RL club with SL desires. You can say well you have television money but then if you want SL standard players you pay a bigger salary and higher other outgoings in training and fitness and facilities so much more than the £2.5M needed to run a championship club. Yes we all want the best for the club and we will all do everything we can to help the club as has been proven during the pandemic but £2.5M get real. LBSA raises around £4000 per annum profit after a lot of work so how are you going to bridge a difference of millions. If it was so easy how come in recent times Bradford have gone into administration,Leigh and Salford owners have walked away because costs became too much, Toronto withdrew this season and covid is not an excuse which can be used as they were not covering their costs before the outbreak. How come there are so many part time clubs with years of history which cannot afford SL.
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| Quote ="itsmeagain"NKpom are you living in a dream world or a fools paradise. It costs approx £2.5 M per annum to run the club. That means £50K per annum from 50 supporters. I should think 90% of the supporters dont make that per person per annum never mind donate to run a RL club with SL desires. You can say well you have television money but then if you want SL standard players you pay a bigger salary and higher other outgoings in training and fitness and facilities so much more than the £2.5M needed to run a championship club. Yes we all want the best for the club and we will all do everything we can to help the club as has been proven during the pandemic but £2.5M get real. LBSA raises around £4000 per annum profit after a lot of work so how are you going to bridge a difference of millions. If it was so easy how come in recent times Bradford have gone into administration,Leigh and Salford owners have walked away because costs became too much, Toronto withdrew this season and covid is not an excuse which can be used as they were not covering their costs before the outbreak. How come there are so many part time clubs with years of history which cannot afford SL.'"
Some reality. Thank you
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| I must say Monkey Boy, That you are doing a grand job ing of some of the very long term supporters of The London Broncos.
We have a very dedicated core of fans. Small but dedicated. Every so often the club appoints someone who comes along and manages to drive away a some of these.
One such fan and his wife, were so insulted by a previous officer of the club. That they swore never to return and they never did. All their quite considerable good work was lost.
For me London Broncos is what I did on Sundays. Sunday being my only day off as I normally work six days a week.
I and my family travel home and away at quite considerable cost. Four to eight hundred mile round trips to games do not come cheap.
However the Covid enforced lack of rugby, is forcing me to re evaluate my commitment to following the club. I am enjoying doing other things like, going to the beach. Not getting up at 6am to go to Yorkshire and doing my garden. I may not be alone in this.
I hope that you are not going to join the group of club employees, who have managed to drive down the clubs support from within. It is easily done.
Trailfinders might become a lonely place, on match days.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"I must say Monkey Boy, That you are doing a grand job ing of some of the very long term supporters of The London Broncos.
We have a very dedicated core of fans. Small but dedicated. Every so often the club appoints someone who comes along and manages to drive away a some of these.
One such fan and his wife, were so insulted by a previous officer of the club. That they swore never to return and they never did. All their quite considerable good work was lost.
For me London Broncos is what I did on Sundays. Sunday being my only day off as I normally work six days a week.
I and my family travel home and away at quite considerable cost. Four to eight hundred mile round trips to games do not come cheap.
However the Covid enforced lack of rugby, is forcing me to re evaluate my commitment to following the club. I am enjoying doing other things like, going to the beach. Not getting up at 6am to go to Yorkshire and doing my garden. I may not be alone in this.
I hope that you are not going to join the group of club employees, who have managed to drive down the clubs support from within. It is easily done.
Trailfinders might become a lonely place, on match days.'"
Thank you for your feedback.
I can also tell you that I am too missing my garden in yorkshire and I am spending an absolute fortune at my own expense living in a hotel in London sorting out something that will probably benefit the club long after my time here.
In fact today I've been at it since 10am and i am currently in a cab back to my hotel having just left a meeting with the directors of London Skolars having explained what I had spent the day doing.
I genuinely hope that things improve for you, I really do. Personally I'm going to keep spending my own cash on hotels and taxis and restaurants in the hope that soon I can sit back and watch supporters get very excited about an announcement we promised.
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| We'd be a lot closer to being self-sufficient if we were still averaging the 4,000+ we were when David Hughes took over the club. I wonder what happened to drive away so many people?
The club's employees really don't do the club (or Hughes' bank balance) any favours with their attitude to supporters.
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| Oh dear, the fun element of this threat is slipping!
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