You know I really did want to give the bloke a chance but after today am losing patience with him

Ok he scored a try, and give him the ball 10 mtr or even 15 mtrs from the line i would always bet on him to score
BUT he gives out an air of total disinterest, does not look like he wants to get involved, andf his tackle stats must be amazing, i might be wrong but in the second half he actually made 1 tackle!!!!! A bloke his size should be making a couple of big massive hits on his op number hurting em and that way they come in to the tackle worrying about it. Strewth he should have battered Menzies and Blanch
His stats must show no missed tackles coz he just never makes any.
He ambles around the park and makes no effort to help out in the hard work areas giving the fwds a break and time to set for the next move.

Micky, I have to agree with you. The irony of it is, just before he scored the try, I commented to the two people sat either side of me "Look at Karl Pryce's body language, it's shocking"
Given his poor form with Wigan, you'd think that he is in his Super League last chance saloon with us. And, to be honest, he's not pulling up any trees for us.

And yet when he eventually came off the bench last week he seemed to make a difference! Don't know what to make of him really, can be great one minute and not seem to give a monkey's the next!

Lazy, that's what i'd call him, not sure what else to call him, maybe a bit dim?
He ambles around the pitch, doesn't do anything, rarely will help the forwards out, won't take the ball up much, he just watchs the ball without doing much. Not sure what to say about him really, I said to the person sitting next to me, 'one day Pryce will think to himself, this is my last chance' and he'll improve. But till that day, he won't do much. Credit to him, he got his try, with his what, 4th go with the ball, if that? in 20 + minutes, lazy. Look at Jamie, he'll constantly go into the field looking for the ball to help the forwards out, and he'll often make more metres then the forwards, Pryce is bigger than some of our forwards, but he's lazy and unless he improves, couldn't really care if he was with us or not tbf.

Tim, sums it up really, wingers and centres at times need to go in field to make some speedy mtrs from the scoot, never seen him do that once where yep you are right Jamie and Howell do that

Where was the loan signing today? whats the point in signing a loan player and then not using him

The problem with Karl Pryce seems to be in his head. He has the physique but does not seem to want the ball or batter the opponent. He is not a good example to youngsters wanting learn. He must frustrate the manager, he does me.

Made signs that he was injured with the hands on head before he gave up and went off injured a number of minutes later. Karl Pryce is a real diamond in the rough who sparkles every so often, but can easily look like a worthless stone or 18 and a half. His problem is mentality and there is a reason why he is at one of the weaker super league clubs. Hopefully for mutual benefit we can get more out of him on a consistent basis, in both attack and defence.

i would like to see him come good, sounded like he had a good game up at Bradford couple of weeks back, sounded like he showed some passion up there, maybe trying to prove a point, so shows he does have it in him if he wants

come on mate stand up to the plate and prove yr worth

I agree with everything that's been said about his body language. Even in the bar after the game today he looked like he didn't really want to be there. In the tackle when he comes in 2nd/3rd to assist he puts no real effort into it, a few today it was just a token hand on the opponent while everybody else did the wrestling.
If he does come good for us I think he'll be awesome. He needs to buck his ideas up and quick.
Don't know how "injured" he was but seemed to be carrying an ankle knock - bang goes my theory of his suffering from vertigo / altitude sickness and forgetting his tablets !!

Pryce is hardly going to scoot given his size-he should help out with big drives from the PTB. Powell isnt really using scoots this year unlike Mac who used it as his only tool!

Powell seems to want players to work there way into the team. Latus, Calderwood for example and now the Wire player. Who should he have replaced, Burnett or Bailey?

Pryce has the heart of a door mouse

Just watched his 'defence' for the first Stacul try again on SLTV and it as farcical as it seemed at the time - laughter seemed the only response. Running parallel to the attacker(s) all the way down the field and making sure there is always a gap of about 6 foot can't be easy to achieve! Synchronised rugby?

Just watched the SLTV thing myself, maybe we could enter a team in the olympics, syncronised rugby league.

A couple of things annoyed me watching that, apart from the butter knife defence
Why with the breakaway try did Dave Howell just stand there and watch the bloke stop in the "in goal" area and pause without grounding the ball, if he is messing about then hit him, look at Blanch, still made the tackle as we were grounding the ball, it may still force an error.
I hace seen a bloke stood in the in goal get picked up and taken over the dead ball line, if yr within touching distance hit the bloke and force him to ground the ball

Why would pryce not scoot? he is a bloody centre, are you saying its a bit far for him to bend down and collect the ball at the play the ball, he is meant to have pace, when you are under pressure in yr red zone, him going in taking a scoot or first reciever and hitting the defensive line is the sort of thing that lifts a team

I think people need to calm down on the Karl Pryce abuse.

He has 7 tries in 9 Games (4 of which were as a replacement)
Made nearly 700 metres
32 Tackle Busts
6 Clean Breaks
2 Errors
and only 8 missed tackles, thats less than 1 a game.

Just because of his size and build, people are expecting Superman.
Compare his stats to a certain blonde haired Aussie Import who seems to fly under the Radar when it comes to Criticism

Another dumb play, smacks off I don't really care!

You really dont get it do you. The purpose of a scooter is to quickly accelerate past the 2 markers and hit the defensive line behind where the markers are stood(ie hit "optimum" speed early). How fast do you think a 17 stone 6 foot 6 bloke will get to "fast" (optimum speed) from a bent over position?

As I said he would be better taking a pass from the hooker on the advantage line with a 10 metre run up-

Do you now see the difference? There are different types of speed- watch the Olympics next year and see if all the 100 metre runners run the same race!! So in answer to your dismissive comment no I dont think its to far to bend more he wont get going very fast, but for someone who knows nothing about rugby yes its to far to bend

Has he attempted more than 8 tackles ?

If you think scooting is give the forwards a rest, there's no reason for Pryce not to. Even if he doesn't get past the markers he should be able to get a quick play the ball, giving the next guy a better chance of making a break or at least getting a roll on. He doesn't even try, which is the point.

now u know why we have loaned him to u he seems disinterested throughout the whole game and struggles to have any impact. i think if u dont keep him he will be in the championship next season because we have cover in his position and have some good young lads such as ryan king in our reserves

I've said on a number of occasions that Karl Pryce is to Rugby League as what Audley Harrison is to Heavyweight Boxing.

Absolutely looks the part leaving the tunnel but has a heart the size of a pea.

Puts in a decent performance generally once every 3-4 matches unfortunately.

Funny old thing I know exactly why and when you would generally use a scoot, and yep mostly its a tool for a small agile half back, but once or twice at least a player like him should be coming in field looking for it, watch Howell and of they both put in the effort, even if its first receiver he would have to come in field looking for work
As for bashing the bloke li would love him to come good, missed tackle count so low coz if he does not commit to tackles then he can't miss em
We keen enough to knock clubb

Gooner how many tackles do the stats having him down as made

63 Tackles

When you compare that to Clubby's 203 tackles made and 18 missed, it don't sound too impressive.
I'm not saying Pryce is the perfect player. I just think he is getting too much stick at the minute.

Watch him score a hat-trick tomorrow

sounds like David Mills who we signed from you guys the other year, a big fearsome looking prop but a real gentle giant who COULDNT hurt a fly. Pryce should be throwing himself into tackles with his size,
hopefully lazy uninterested Pryce will turn up today

gooner yep went and had a look at that and more tackles made than I thought

Back to what i said at the start of the thread and whats coming out as general feeling on here, he does not look like he wants to get involved, he never gets involved in multi man tackles that he close to, he seldom goes looking for the ball up the middle of the park, and never seems to take the ball at pace! On tyhe other side, 10 mtrs from the line I would always bet on him to score, sadly we dont play all the game 10 mtrs from the line
I would love him to prove us wrong and start working TR has it right he should be hitting blokes in the tackle and takign the ball at pace

People have been saying these things about Pryce since he was a kid in the Bradford academy.

Fact is he's just not that ar5ed about being a rugby player. He's a nice lad but hasn't got the hunger to really make the most of his talent. I think his brother got all the aggression and will to win. Someone who knows him far better than me said he'd be just as happy being a bin man as playing rugby.