Dorn (led) 1-2 weeks

Randall (knee) 1-2 weeks

Orr (knee) 1-2 weeks

Purdo (arm) 2-3 weeks

Haggerty (groin)

So.......Mac will need to try and make a silk purse out of a pigs ear again this weekend

KC has been let off as well, no charge, apparently it was accidental

But on the bright side, looks like a few of these guys could be fit for the Bradford games

Are you being serious?

Case Number ON/512/09
Name Kieron Cunningham
Club St Helens
Shirt Number 9
Match St Helens v Wakefield
Competition Super League
Date 17/07/09
Incident considered Strike in 68th minute
Decision No charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Player intentionally has a jab at the Wakefield player and as such is guilty of misconduct; however the Panel are giving him the benefit of the doubt that contact with the eye is accidental and as such consider that it is appropriate to deal with this matter by way of a caution
Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* Formal caution

Suddenly I'm even more pessamistic about this Saturday.

Why do you get a caution for something that is accidental!

He meant it-punish
He didn't-let off

Third category RFL- Accident-caution

What does the caution say -dont have accidents

An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident

an unfortunate mishap; especially one causing damage or injury
anything that happens suddenly or by chance without an apparent cause; "winning the lottery was a happy accident"; "the pregnancy was a stroke of bad luck"; "it was due to an accident or fortuity"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

I was stunned when I read that earlier. An absolute disgrace.

stunned....but not shocked. One rule for some teams and the book thrown at others.

Oh c'mon. Sour grapes and silliness. Howell led with the elbow: it was as plain as day. Cunningham hit out and unintentionally hit Stosic's eye. He was simply given the benefit of the doubt. In fact, like Howell, who would likely have got a longer ban had he not had a clean record (as has Cunningham). Kieron has been given a formal caution, which means he has a black mark on his record for a few months so has to be squeaky clean or it's the naughty step for him. We [ihave[/i had one player banned this season, you know. Fas. For a chicken wing tackle. So you see, we don't have the RFL in our pockets after all.

So, he pokes the end of the ball in an opponents face and just "accidentally" hits him in the eye.

So, if I drive my car along the pavement and "accidentally" hit a pedestrian, I'll just get a warning. Very reassuring. I'll try it tomorrow.

What was he hitting out at given he was below the tackler and had limited movement and targets to hit.

He has a clean record due to the RFL behaving like this again

oh good god look at it
his arm was on the floor it moved 3 or 4 inches no punch like that can do any damage! a punch is a punch but
did it deserve anything nope!!
lets not clutch at staws!
D Howell got awy with 3 game for an elbow

Cunningham has a clean record because the RFL choose to ignore anything that he does wrong. A punch is a punch in my opion and should be dealt with properly not just covered up as an accident or it will end up with other teams and players thinking they can punch when on the floor and say it was an accident as they were trying to get up.

Do you really believe that the point of the ball being pushed into someone's eye can't do any damage? That's not where it went in this case but it was very close.

Cunningham does that sort of stuff frequently when he's trying to get a quick PTB, particularly when near the opponents line. He's an aggressive player, not a dirty one, but every time he does that he's running the risk of injuring an opponent. On this occasion he did and ought to be punished. What's the point of a warning to someone who's been playing the same way for years?

Howell was punished because the video review panel decided to forward the case to the disciplinary committee. They should have done the same with Cunningham.

but on the plus side (for you), wellens has broke his arm www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/450 ... reaks_arm/

but on the plus side (for you), wellens has broke his arm www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/450 ... reaks_arm/

We've nearly racked up a decent crocked XIII

Wellens
Lomax
X
Wheeler
Meli
Eastmond
Long
Cayless
Roby
Maurie
Frodsham
X
Flannery

You could put a helluva team together from both sides injuries - will be a very interesting game this weekend.

Quote but on the plus side (for you), wellens has broke his arm www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/450 ... reaks_arm/ '" Thats bad news for us

Quote but on the plus side (for you), wellens has broke his arm www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/450 ... reaks_arm/ '" Thats bad news for us

Yeah, he's only got 9 tries in 9 games against Quins

Quote ="Saint Simon"but on the plus side (for you), wellens has broke his arm www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/450 ... reaks_arm/'" Not really a plus. I'd sooner watch two full strength sides than two teams made up of partial crocks and reserves.

Quote ="Saint Simon"but on the plus side (for you), wellens has broke his arm www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/450 ... reaks_arm/'" Not really a plus. I'd sooner watch two full strength sides than two teams made up of partial crocks and reserves.

What about Howell and Hecklenberg? I know Howell is banned so when does it run till?

The thread was titled "injury"....howells has another weekend off this weekend. Hecks is always 50/50 and will probably be in the 19.

It looks like we may have Flannery and Eastmond back for our match against you but how fit they will be is another matter. If Eastmond is fit and on form then he could cause you difficulties as he scoots about a lot and has a lower centre of gravity than most (making him tricky to tackle). A bit like Rob Burrow but more attractive and better.



However, none of our other crocks will be back for Saturday so we'll have some of our newbies out, no doubt, and will be a bit thin up front.

However, none of our other crocks will be back for Saturday so we'll have some of our newbies out, no doubt, and will be a bit thin up front.'"

Our hearts bleed for you SaintsFan, with just the 7 internationals in your side!

If only we had your problems....