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| So a few scenarios.
1. Restrictions relaxed in May, professional sport allowed to resume but behind closed doors!
2. Restrictions stay in place till say end of June, pro sport allowed to restart as normal with paying fans.
3. Restrictions in place all through summer, pro sport cant resume until well into the year.
Thoughts, option 1 is only really any good for top tier, lower league clubs could not survive without a lot of central funding.
Option 2 restructured season, in this case should there be promotion and relegation?
Option 3 does it get to the point where re starting this season is pointless. In which case choices are to restart anew in Feb 21 or maybe have a couple of weekend festivals like a big bash, magic, maybe a 9s etc.
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| From what I hear the thought is that teams to catch up on the games that have been lost. Teams could play games midweek. This will put a lot of pressure on the players. Part time teams will struggle with this.
I think that players will not be able three games over a seven day period. The clubs will have to be selective over who plays in which games.
Clubs that rely on DR will suffer. As the clubs that loan players out on Dual Reg will need to use their full squad and loaning players out will be a luxury that they can no longer afford.
I suppose the reserve grade competition will not restart. Clubs will have to focus on their player resources on their first teams.
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| Option 1 is not going to happen.
Restart in July possible, playing 3 games a week is possible, but strain on players, part-time clubs etc will be enormous, never mind crowds. I can understand why clubs want income streams, but not sure how realistic it all is? Very sad situation, not ate how many clubs will survive
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| Some of the part time squads run on a small number of players.I don't think three games a week is practical, you'll end up with teams turning up with ten players or some such. Sporting integrity would be out the window, not to mention player safety concerns.
Will we have a shortened season playing everyone once? Bad news financially for clubs but it may be the only way to finish a season?
That's assuming the season is allowed to restart. The Dutch government has today effectively banned professional sport from restarting before September 1st . If we do the same, the season is gone. Along with many clubs I fear.
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| I don't see anything starting for several months so unlikely to be that many games. They will just have to play it by ear and come up with a suitable format when things are clearer.
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| Midweek games for SL clubs might be doable, for the part time teams players just ain't going to be able to do it.
If SL clubs were to play midweek assuming not behind closed doors gate numbers will be poor folk will not be able to afford it.
For me if it gets to July then option 3 is only real option, it gets to a point where trying to resume is just not viable
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| Well the French govt suggesting no sport will be permitted until at least Sep that puts Catalans in a really difficult situation should SL even consider a resumption. Hard days for the sport.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"Well the French govt suggesting no sport will be permitted until at least Sep that puts Catalans in a really difficult situation should SL even consider a resumption. Hard days for the sport.'"
Good to see the French Government at least taking a lead rather than the hand wringing wait & see of the British. After all, there is still an invisible killer on the loose so safety of players & fans should be paramount not Sky TV. It's obviously more difficult for RL as season is just under way where Football & RU the season has almost ended.
It may well be better for Rugby League to go back to part time at all levels as there just isn't enough money in it to support a proper professional sport. Or how about reduce the salary cap to £1.5m & only allow a maximum of 4 full time professionals per club? Just a thought.
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| Talking about Rugby League not British politics.
I suspect top level football in this country could get the go ahead for closed doors games reasonably soon, SL to follow?
Can't disagree with possibility of some clubs going back part time. If so there would be a lot go south though!
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| With regards to Top Flight football restarting behind closed doors. The police have grave concerns that hoards of fans will turn up to the grounds, where the games are being played. In the hope of being able to see the game.
This will be the problem that hasty be overcome and I cannot see how.
Plus the players will look silly playing in face masks.
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| Sport has been played behind closed doors before and they have coped
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| Who cares what footballers look like if they wear a mask.
The police concern with wendy ball would have to be balanced with what benefits govt saw with resuming pro sport, obviously the French have made the decision on that.
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| The suggestion is that football games are played at neutral grounds. The intention being that fans will not travel. However if fans do and I think that is is very likely that they will. The season will be cancelled.
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| Bosty, is that actual information from anywhere or your opinion?
Irrelevant of what football does, it would not stop pro rugby cricket golf starting up behind closed doors.
NRL plan seems to be generally well supported but they have the issue of pay to overcome. For football in UK doing that's an issue. For RL could likes of cas Leeds Saints afford to pay wages without gate income on top of sky money?
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| And actually the football issue and fans travelling does not bother me in the slightest, if football fans are that stupid then fine let them get on with it. It's not something that would happen in our sport so not a concern
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| Rugby League fans are not stupid eh!!!!! Some are, look at the Wakefield morons last season.
The thing being that, all sport will be treated in the same manor. Should football fans travel in numbers to a game played behind closed doors. All sport will be shut no doubt down. The risk will be deemed as too high.
I might also add that at the point when the shut down occurred. The NRL played games behind closed doors. There were fans watching from various points around the ground.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"And actually the football issue and fans travelling does not bother me in the slightest, if football fans are that stupid then fine let them get on with it. It's not something that would happen in our sport so not a concern'" These fans could be spreading the virus amongst their families and vulnerable people. Do you not care about that ?
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| A few stupid wakey fans at a game is nothing like what was suggested re football, very different scenario, unless you are suggesting that 1000s of RL fans would flock to a closed stadium.
NRL no, there were maybe a couple of dozen looking over the fence from there own back gardens not quite the same thing.
As for your suggestion that hordes of football fans spreading the virus, those fans are quite probably same folk that are ignoring the advice already so nothing changes. Besides are the vulnerable not self isolating.
Or are you suggesting sport should never restart?
Where is the evidence that all sport would be shut down if football fans were stupid, govt had already acknowledged they recognise the value of RL I certain societies. They can recognise the difference between football, rugby, golf, tennis, f1 fans.
Besides no games have been played, and no fans have flocked to stand outside closed gates, the fans issue at football is a possible scenario discussed, the other scenario is nothing happens like that and it's fine.
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| Quote ="northernbloke"As for your suggestion that hordes of football fans spreading the virus, those fans are quite probably same folk that are ignoring the advice already so nothing changes.'" What evidence do you have to support your claim that football fans, in particular, are not observing lockdown ? Seems like you have a rather bigoted view.
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| I have no evidence, I said probably it was an opinion not a statement of fact. The words used to suggest there would be hordes of football fans going to empty stadiums were "the police have grave concerns" that's actually a statement of concern not a fact, it may not happen
Just for info though in one police area over Easter the greatest number of calloused were for parties and anti social behaviour and yes the demographic of those visited probably backed by opinion. That comes from someone involved in sorting that out.
Why not take discussion another way, lots of Corona viruses never get a vaccine. If they don't find one for covid19 is the suggestion that pro sport will never re start?
If you can't stop something you adapt to live with it, govt has already recognised value of sport to society, how do you adapt in this case? Social distancing in a sports stadium very very hard, even with our numbers at ealing never mind old trafford
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| There's leaked audio of Bristol Rovers PFA representative advising his team mates the authorities have advised him not to expect fans to be permitted in to EFL matches until January 2021.
Clearly things will be under continual review but with many experts predicting a serious re-occurrence in October/November, this seems plausible.
It's now clear we are only going to see a very minor unlock in June. There's no chance of any big sports crowds being able to attend sports events for a fair while yet.
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| It's a difficult one for any sport, especially stadium based sports even limited numbers then relies on segregation inside
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| The govt strategy has to be reviewed early may, so reckon there will be some changes then, talk of golf clubs re opening.
Think even for pro sport behind closes doors testing of players and staff going to be enforced
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| The governments current thinking has been fairly blatantly flagged by some pet journalists over the weekend. Unless something major changes before the announcement on Thursday, it's going to be a very minor unlock in early June.
Golf may well restart as it is relatively easy to socially distance on the course. The clubhouse is likely to be under strict restrictions or still closed.
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| So the suggestion is that pro sport will likely resume behind closed doors aka NRL
Don't think anyone is suggesting back to filling old Trafford with fans of any sport. But there is a definite push for some resumption.
How that will effect Broncos then becomes the discussion, second tier although gate incomes not massive for likes of batley, Halifax Swinton without fans are they likely or able to resume? I suspect not, would Toulouse have finances to re locate to UK like catalans considering.
Unlike France I think UK Govt want sport to resume at some level.
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