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| We are moving to Ealing TrailFinders.
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| For anyone interested, pretty comprehensive details about the facilities here
[urlhttp://www.tfsc.co.uk/[/url
As with ANY ground we play at, there will be the usual avalanche of "it's a bugger to get to" type posts, so just to head the whiners off at the pass:
Castle Bar Park is the nearest Railway station, served on Saturdays, but not Sundays from Paddington/Ealing Broadway
Ealing Broadway to the ground 14 minutes on the E11......other bus stops within a 5 minute walk of the ground are served by the E3, E2, E5, E9, E7 and the 297.
If you're a fan of overpriced Fullers Ales, the Duke of Kent (E2, E9, E7) is a 650 meter stroll to the ground.
For those staying overnight, the Premier Inn Greenford offers a 1k walk to the ground and is located near the Central Line for a fast trip into town.
Yes, the stadium (sic) isn't located on top of a tube line and to some it will seem like a 'wilderness" but Ealing Broadway is served by the District and Central Lines, as well as having 16 trains stopping there on route to/from Paddington per hour. There 6 busses that can be caught outside the station that will get you within a 5 minute walk of the Stadium (sic)......I truly hope that the club can retain the supporters from this year and maybe attract some new or lapsed ones.
From Brentford it's 1 bus, from Twickenham 2 busses.
Lastly, I'd like to see Hughes attempt to get our own Beer Tent set up in the grounds if we aren't to get a share of that revenue. Maybe the volunteer/supporters group could offer to staff it? Rather us get the revenue than the Rahs'...
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| Was talking to a friend from ealing, seems to think that ealing have expansion plans, building a scent stand, maybe we are investing? Certainly not SL standard should we get a sniff next year. 3g pitch there.
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| Quote ="mickyb1234"Was talking to a friend from ealing, seems to think that ealing have expansion plans, building a scent stand, maybe we are investing? Certainly not SL standard should we get a sniff next year. 3g pitch there.'"
Like the Hive, the biggest stumbling block for development is the neighbours. It's a pretty nice area and I would suspect if they do develop it, then it won't be any higher than the current 2 storey stand. The Seating at one end behind the sticks can be replicated at the other end so it could probably stretch to a 3k seat stadium......but never a SL standard ground.
The Union lads are clothes by under armour, so hopefully we get to see some decent replica and leisure wear in the shop. Will Trailfinders sponsor us next year?
Here's the stand behind the sticks at the Vallis Way End which holds 480...notice that it's lower than the tree line.
This is opposite the main grandstand...I believe there are 120 seats here on match days, either side of the dugouts. No treelines apparent to block the view from the houses at the rear, so planning could prove tricky
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| Is this fact or just another rumour?
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| Daft dad? Source? Anything to back up the statement?
See the problem with expanding, nothing to do with us but rumour I heard ealing looking to expand to 8k capacity but that is only local residents rumour mill. ( they are rah rah fans)
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| I agree that access isn't bad, however even if planning permission was granted to expand the ground (and looking at the site on Google Earth and Streets I would think that that's going to be VERY difficult) it would appear to suggest that the club's given up on getting back into SL in the short to medium term.
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| and we will come out to Marvin Gaye's:
Sexual (H)Ealing lol
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| This place is soulless, I have actually watched two games here, you get of in a small station, in middle of council estate, you walk around the fence of the park, around the ground to a gap in houses, down a lane to a field with a club house one side, nice though and a 70's TV gantry on other side, there is not one buzz at all around ground, go see for yourself, lets hope not
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| If this turns out to be true then I'm finally done with the club. It's not the location as such, that's actually pretty easy for me to get to as I live near Ealing Broadway, but more what this decision says about the club.
My very first game was against Keighley at Hendon FC's old ground on Clairmont Rd, in fact it was the first home game under the Broncos moniker in 1994. It would seem that after all these years, and a litany of business / playing / staffing decisions that generally veer from bad to atrocious, David Hughes has returned us to a worse condition than when I first rocked up.
Playing at Ealing Trailfinders tells me that not only is the club in a terrible state but that everyone involved, from Hughes to the RFL, has actually given up on us every being anything other than a small, badly run Championship club. A rich man's plaything. Then you see Wigan, with the RFL's and Broncos' blessing, bringing games down here and already wooing big name sponsors. The community clubs are in a terrible state, after the RFL withdrew almost all of the funding down here. Add this to the fact that there will only be 8 Academies from next season, and our record suggests we won't be one of them but instead a centre of excellence, and the future of Rugby League in London is abundantly clear. There isn't one.
What a disastrous, pathetic state of affairs.
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| nadera I fear you took the words out of my mouth. Its a big if though obviously so let's see (and I don't mean we just sit and wait and hope for the best)!
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| Quote ="nkpom"nadera I fear you took the words out of my mouth. Its a big if though obviously so let's see (and I don't mean we just sit and wait and hope for the best)!'"
Mine too!
Maybe your original idea of a Phoenix RL wasn't such a bad idea - at least we might be moving forward as a club! Can't see how a groundshare with Ealing RU is anything but a massive backward leap unless 1) we are buying in and 2) we have plans/ funds to build new stands on the site. Otherwise we will be playing at what is one step up from playing in a park!
Presumably this story is filtering out as we aren't going to make the top 8's?
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| Great. Just get interested in going as Barnet is easy access from the North of London and this happens.
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| Quote ="Jim Pooley"This is opposite the main grandstand...I believe there are 120 seats here on match days, either side of the dugouts. No treelines apparent to block the view from the houses at the rear, so planning could prove tricky
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That one is a beauty.
If daftdad is correct, and I believe that he does have reliable contacts, this would be one move too far for me. Started watching, and later supporting, the Broncos so that I could watch SL. Not here, I won't.
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| Not ideal for me, not a very good journey for me.
We do seem to be going backwards as a club. I did hope that we were going to build something at The Hive, but it probably comes down to money.
Will we ever get settled permanently?
So for now we must move on and start all over again !!!!!
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| Quote Maybe your original idea of a Phoenix RL wasn't such a bad idea - at least we might be moving forward as a club!'"
As you know I've always held the belief that a supporter owned club was the best way to deliver a stable and forward thinking Broncos - maybe a topic for discussion at the LBSA meeting on Thursday night?
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| I will wait until we get all the Facts, on paper (if true) it's not a very good prospect, ironic when Leeds Rhino's are so keen to play Wigan Warriors in London this breaks?
Supporter owned club, is there any real evidence there is there is a real thirst for this? would those involved be able to really raise the funds needed, where would the club be based then? how would you replace the real money Hughes has and is putting in? why we have never been able to break through with other investors I can't understand, when a man with money goes from London to Bradford to buy into rugby.
It is only the last few seasons that we kept hearing here how The Skolars was the future, what are they doing currently? perhaps the game will only ever be amateur in the South do we have to accept it? seeing Oxford beat as they were at the weekend with a record score, one journalist said straight after the match, Swinton break records Great, is it great.
As a sport we have been fed and so many believe we The Greatest Game, one that attendances are still dropping, a Challenge Cup that attendances are a disgrace and a top semi is taken to a ground that holds 13,024? just to make it look good on TV, play it on a Friday night kick off 7.45pm a time that fits BBC TV, try getting across the M62 at that time on a Friday. The Academy League is rumoured to be reduced to 8 teams? many clubs joining together? who does a real talented player sign for, which club? The game itself so predictable with the kicking on the last tackle, scrums which are a joke, last Friday night watching Sky I turned off with 15 minutes to go I was bored.
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| On reflection,I doubt anything will be announced until after the Sheffield game. Just got to hope it is not true.
Been down this road too many times. Couple of years here, couple of years there, The Valley, off to The Stoop, back to The Valley, Stoop again, Brentford too must not forget that, The Hive, getting to be a bit tiresome. All the time we seem to be losing fans. We are on a downward spiral.
Dare I mention the lack of marketing throughout the years as a major contributing factor. In addition to some atrocious managerial appointments.
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| Quote jaybs wrote:
Supporter owned club, is there any real evidence there is there is a real thirst for this? would those involved be able to really raise the funds needed, where would the club be based then? how would you replace the real money Hughes has and is putting in?'"
I indeed have first hand knowledge that there is a thirst for this; you'll be surprised how many people would be willing to stand up and be counted on this, and how much support there is in the wider game for such a venture.
The whole point of a professional football club as I see it is that it generates enough income to pay its way! If a successor regime were simply to continue to pour money in to the steadily declining club then your point would be a good one. For me the task of a successor regime, whether supporter led or not, would be to stop doing what has not worked; review what the club is for and where is should go; plan for this, then execute.
rugby League is best when embedded in a community. Let's find one, settle in and commit to stay there in a facility that generates income and engages on a daily basis. Perhaps then in ten years time we'll have a sustainable tilt at a Super League Grand Final!
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| Maidstone United certainly have come back from the dead. They now have a lovely stadium by the river, get good crowds and the people of Maidstone, who hardly support anything,are starting to get behind them.
They too lead a nomadic existence since they went under, but without doubt they are on the rise now.
Of course, their old London Road Stadium, was home to the short lived Kent Invicta. So a Rugby League connection there.
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| i believe the original poster is correct. I heard on July 5th from someone within the game (although not within the Broncos) that the move to Ealing Trailfinders was a done deal. Not ifs or buts. He seemed very certain and I have no reason to doubt him. Very disappointed. My Broncos attendance has nosedived as my head has been turned by other RL offerings but the club is VITAL to all of us in southern RL. This for me is just confirmation of the end of our dreams. Another semi pro club in London with absolutely no chance of ever getting back to Super League. Very sad. The writing's been on the wall for years, it's the slowest death of a sports club I can think of. Third Lanark FC maybe! I'm sure it'll be dressed up as shared ownership/long lease & a bright future (number 123) but from where I'm sitting it's terrible. Ah well, hope I'm wrong and it turns out to be the best thing evah!
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| Quote ="Bostwick"Maidstone United certainly have come back from the dead. They now have a lovely stadium by the river, get good crowds and the people of Maidstone, who hardly support anything,are starting to get behind them.
They too lead a nomadic existence since they went under, but without doubt they are on the rise now.
Of course, their old London Road Stadium, was home to the short lived Kent Invicta. So a Rugby League connection there.'"
Yes, I'd forgotten about that!
Did actually take in a couple of Maidstone games in the late 80's when I was living that way for about a year. They had a decent sized following in the Conference then, might have been the season before they made it into the Football League.
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| What a terrible move if true. I just don't understand this. Pretty much confirms the club have no interest in SL rugby anymore. If that is the case I am asking myself why bother?? lets say we have a stormer next year and make the top 4, who cares, we wont be going up. Lets be honest if we did make the top 4 our ground would not be fit to play anyway when the SL away fans turn up!! Maybe Eailing have plans to develop the ground and we want in but that I very much doubt.
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