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| I read that a moment ago. If they move outside of London then it's a joke.
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| I hope something turns up and we stay in London, Orient is OK for me but the pitch is really too small for league. Brentford would be ideal, good atmosphere and then share their new ground. I for one will not go to Gillingham.
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| I keep thinking of ground and unless I'm forgetting somewhere there just isn't a good option. Brentford would seem to be the best of a bad bunch. Does anyone know what Barnet FC are planning on doing after Underhill?
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| Quote ="poplar panther"I hope something turns up and we stay in London, Orient is OK for me but the pitch is really too small for league. Brentford would be ideal, good atmosphere and then share their new ground. I for one will not go to Gillingham.
KEEP LONDON - IN LONDON !'"
While Gillingham would be much easier for me to get to the Broncos have to stay inside the M25 surely?
KEEP LONDON IN LONDON - any money in the kitty for a new flag? Black background, light blue letters - displayed at home games so DH, Gus etc can see it clearly?
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| All the signs pointing to Gillingham are not good - another lost ST holder here is that is the case. If we have to move, then Brentford is surely the best option....
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| It's nice to see the club actually making a decision on something.
Oh wait.
No they haven't. This is just Gus Mackay telling BBC London that he's 'in discussions'. Wonder if they'll be concluded before the end of the season?
I await the announcement with relish. What ramshackle football stadium will we inhabit next? I'm already looking forward to my pre-match pint in Leyton. Or New Cross. Notorious rugby league strongholds, both.
Let's disregard the fact that The Stoop is geared up to play rugby all year round. Disregard the fact it's a modern, all-seater facility 20 minutes from Waterloo and easily accessible by road. Let's also forget that the club has put next to zero effort in actually engaging south-west londoners to part with their hard-earned and turn up to watch.
Underhill? Have you actually [ibeen[/i to that place? Give me strength....
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| The key phrases for me are;
'What we are looking for...'
'There are a number of dicussions going on with various venues...'
This to me means one of two things, either we're in shtuck cos no b*gg*r wants us or they've already agreed in principle to go to Gillingham but knowing the supporters' attitude to the move, they're trying to con us into believing that it is regrettably the only thing possible. Remembering the move back to Crystal Palace from Chiswick, where they tried to make out it was a last minute decision by announcing it at the last home game when they'd apparently agreed to move back in the previous December, I'm going with the second option.
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| I will not go to Gillingham and we cannot call ourselves London.
Brentford is the only sensible option?
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| Utter tosh.
"It is top of my agenda." - how about doing your b****y job and get bums on seats and an alternative investor to help/replace David.
"Mackay feels it is right to move away from the ground in Twickenham, west London" - good for you - trouble is it seems like 99% of the fans don't feel that way!
I was hoping that the Prison Warder would continue his normal pattern, 2 years at Nottingham, 2 years at Sussex and 2 years at Surrey but sadly we are going into his 3rd year. Tell you what mate - rearrange the deck chairs while we sink!
Oh well a monthly trip to Perpignan for Dragons home games next year with one or 2 visists up north to watch them, it will be "good night from me" if they move to Gillingham.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"
I was hoping that the Prison Warder would continue his normal pattern, 2 years at Nottingham, 2 years at Sussex and 2 years at Surrey.'"
Flashback to January 14th 2011
[urlhttp://www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/3031.php[/url Quote Harlequins Rugby League chairman, David Hughes, said today:
"Gus has enjoyed considerable success in professional sport over a number of years and I am delighted to welcome him on board. His appointment is not only positive for this club, but also good news for the continued growth and development of Rugby League in London.'"
Please....someone lay out his considerable successes in professional sport?
Fucking farce...David Hughes needs to be TOLD by the RFL to get rid of this clown now!
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| Interesting that the warder totally skirts the question of why we need to move. He is so out of his depth and seemingly heading this club towards extinction. His interpretation of the Gillingham as a success game is ridiculous (but we all knew it would happen). This was a one off game in a stadium where the attendance at football give would give you a huge frickin' clue that it is not a viable prospect.
One possible saving grace is that I suspect he is actually incapable of finding an alternate venue, despite it being the number one thing in his in tray.
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| Has the BBC just picked up on the article in the new edition of Forty 20 Magazine? that seemed to say we were looking at a London venue! the BBC piece says Gillingham was successful, but not enough effort was put into the other on the road game!
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| Listened to it in full on the podcast - no valid reasons for moving other than Quins RU brand is different or some such phrase. No Sherlock - so are football clubs!
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| Quote ="jaybs"Has the BBC just picked up on the article in the new edition of Forty 20 Magazine? that seemed to say we were looking at a London venue! the BBC piece says Gillingham was successful, but not enough effort was put into the other on the road game!'"
BBC piece is based on Rammo's interview with Gus last Friday as I understand it.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Flashback to January 14th 2011
[urlhttp://www.londonbroncosrl.com/news/3031.php[/urlPlease....someone lay out his considerable successes in professional sport?
loving farce...David Hughes needs to be TOLD by=#FF0040 the RFL to get rid of this clown now!'"
Trouble is they are not much better. Lets see who shall we put on at 12.00 on the first day of Magic weekend. I know the 2 clubs furthest away! Mmmm I am sure London Broncos will attract a big crowd against Leeds Rhinos even if we make it a Monday night game!
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| Quote ="The Penguin"It's nice to see the club actually making a decision on something.
Oh wait.
No they haven't. This is just Gus Mackay telling BBC London that he's 'in discussions'. Wonder if they'll be concluded before the end of the season?
I await the announcement with relish. What ramshackle football stadium will we inhabit next? I'm already looking forward to my pre-match pint in Leyton. Or New Cross. Notorious rugby league strongholds, both.
Let's disregard the fact that The Stoop is geared up to play rugby all year round. Disregard the fact it's a modern, all-seater facility 20 minutes from Waterloo and easily accessible by road. Let's also forget that the club has put next to zero effort in actually engaging south-west londoners to part with their hard-earned and turn up to watch.
Underhill? Have you actually [ibeen[/i to that place? Give me strength....'"
I have been and I agree, possibly the worst ground in London and I include Dagenham in that!
I meant that they're moving soon or at least hoping to so was wondering if anyone knew their latest plans.
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| The reason is quite simple its a smoke screen for his failures.
He now doesnt need to market the club this year as the future is elsewhere.
He persuaded Hughsey to spend big with a view to selling the big names and bringing in the punters-He failed to sell that.
Now we move and he needs time to build a crowd-Its a delay tactic - simple
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| Quote ="wire quin"The reason is quite simple its a smoke screen for his failures.
He now doesnt need to market the club this year as the future is elsewhere.
He persuaded Hughsey to spend big with a view to selling the big names and bringing in the punters-He failed to sell that.
Now we move and he needs time to build a crowd-Its a delay tactic - simple'"
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| Quote ="wire quin"The reason is quite simple its a smoke screen for his failures.
He now doesnt need to market the club this year as the future is elsewhere.
He persuaded Hughsey to spend big with a view to selling the big names and bringing in the punters-He failed to sell that.
Now we move and he needs time to build a crowd-Its a delay tactic - simple'"
you are me...wher's my fiver
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| Quote ="gutterfax"wher's my fiver '"
Save it for the soon to be obsolete merchandise.
It'll probably be in the club shop by then.
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| Sack the board
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"Save it for the soon to be obsolete merchandise.
It'll probably be in the club shop by then.
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Could Bristol be a possible home for the London club in 2014?
There is a RLWC game there that may attract a decent enough crowd...maybe Gus will "epxplore" that too? Maybe a "jolly" over to Limerick?
I find it incredible that the RFL will be prepared to let the club move again, citing "no interest" from the locals whilst offering no evidence that they have even asked the locals.
As for Gillingham, IMHO, Gus has blatently lied with regard to gate receipts for the game there last year....it is common knowledge that all the Juniors (HUNDREDS of them) received free entry for them and a guardian as part of the "stampede" and that a large number of tickets were sold by the Dragons. This EVENT game attracted 300 more fans than an average FC game in the capital over 17 years and actually, was lower than the 2010 gate.....before Gus arrived.
David Hughes must surely see that in 24 months, nothing of any standing has been achieved. We are farther away from the 10,000 fans Gus was quoted as saying he wanted, the name change saw us lose more fans, his historical recruitment from "mates" has failed at every turn and he is now seeming to be wandering around football grounds in the east from the lower divisions with his begging bowl out.
If Harlequins are really upping the rent, or want us out, then fair enough, but East London??????? Does anyone see the irony of an African Cricketer picking out a new home for a professional RL team from outside the traditional Northern Heartlands, based on the attendance at 1 game which was part of a festivalof RL planned by the local amateur set up?
Did anyone else notice this from the BBC article?
Quote "We went to Leyton Orient and that was successful in a way but with the Bradford issue that arose [the Bulls' future being in doubt we probably didn't give it the marketing attention it should have had"'"
Sorry Gus......but you've not given any of the 26 home games to date on your watch anything like ANY MARKETING ATTENTION!
1.3 million a year is given to this club from a 19 million. Surely the RFL have the responsibility to the game to see that this money (7%) is being managed and spent correctly? It's about 33% of the clubs income and was received in 2012 on the back of promises made in 2011 to increase attendances...a promise that has not been made good on and has now been forgotten in the search for another new (false) dawn. How the did he get this job? Surely a 5 year, if not longer, business plan would have needed to be put together? His past job hopping antics should have prevented him from getting a post that needed a "long term strategy".
As I say, he's probably a really nice bloke, but so far out of his depth professionally it's beyond a joke now...he has to go!
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| If we move to Gillingham I won't be getting a season ticket.
We do need our own ground. Buy a non-league footy team and do up the stadium? Oldham basically did this...
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| Quote ="JamieS"If we move to Gillingham I won't be getting a season ticket.
We do need our own ground. Buy a non-league footy team and do up the stadium? Oldham basically did this...'"
Nice idea but we'd need far better facilities for SL making it too expensive I'd imagine.
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