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| not sure which way round those are! Full fixtures out on Monday morning. Bring on 2013!
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| Widnes...first home game represents a great chance to start the year with a win.....please God the back office team realise this and do everything in their power from Monday to get a 5k+ crowd to this game.....
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| A close game against Widnes witnessed by 2k and an annual hiding off Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="Moe Lester"A close game against Widnes witnessed by 2k and an annual hiding off Huddersfield.'"
I think you're being far too optimistic...
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| Any early news on the venue for the game v Wigan on 18 May? Its down as TBA.
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| Am I right in thinking no home games in July, last home game in the middle of August?
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| Taking the Wigan and Wire "on the stoopid effing road" so the prison warder can glory in how big the crowds are and justify a move next season.
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| So the club signs a sponsorship deal, with the press release hailing the match day experience at the Stoop. We then decide to take two of our biggest games away from the Stoop?
We can already see the press release about the unbounded success of at least the Wigan fixture, "the biggest crowd of the season", even though it would have been that anyway!
Still, they've left no stone unturned in attracting the community in to the Stoop; trumping the excellent work they'd done at Griffin Park! And they simply don't want to come.
Now that the young player feed is starting to come through from West London, let's move a couple of hours journey East to consolidate!
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| The fixture list has done us no favours again!!!
March - Bank Holiday weekend - Thursday 8pm v Catalan = lowest gate of season nailed on.
May - No home games as we are taking the Wigan game on the 18th `on the F`in road`. All equals zero help for crowds at the Stoop.
June - Home games at very start and end of month. Why o why are we also taking the Wire game `on the road` on the 8th June.
July - No home games. Coupled with June arrangement, equals zero help for crowds at the Stoop.
August - Leeds at home on Monday 5th, followed by Saints away on Friday 9th!!......that should just about decimate our squad. Season effectively ends on the 17th August!!!!!!
September - No home games - season over
All in all just about as bad a fixture list as I can recall.
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| I see that the 'bigger' clubs have been picked for the on the road games, probably to gauge how well they're supported by away sides and to see if, by playing a big side, it can make a few more neutrals and Broncos fans turn up.
However, picking the Wigan game means no home game in May. Surely one on the road game in April (a month after 3/5 are home games) and another in June (which has been picked) was the way to go?
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| So it's Wigan in Gillingham then.
& some other far flung outpost for Wire too no doubt.
Talk about a not so hidden agenda.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Taking the Wigan and Wire "on the stoopid effing road" so the prison warder can glory in how big the crowds are and justify a move next season.'"
Hadn't thought of that. Clever by Gus in all fairness. I mean, I totally oppose the OTR idea, but it's smart.
Echo some of the previous sentiments re: timing and fixture gaps. Also, very unhelpful to be playing Leeds at home on a Monday night.
Widnes at home first up means there's absolutely no excuse to start the season poorly.
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| Quote ="Cowgirl Nostalgist"So it's Wigan in Gillingham then.
& some other far flung outpost for Wire too no doubt.
Talk about a not so hidden agenda.'"
Wigan in Oxford I hear.
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| Quote ="Stooper"Wigan in Oxford I hear.'"
If true, that would be nice, for me.
EDIT: Oh, it's my wedding anniversary, so not so nice.
The Lenegan family connection I guess?
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| When you support a club that is more likely to be in the bottom half of the table than not, then you need the opening quarter of the season to have reasonable fixtures to help build a degree of form and confidence.
This season sees six consecutive realistically winnable home games v Widnes, Wakefield, Hull KR, Hull FC, Catalans and Bradford and with Salford and Castleford away in the first four away fixtures so it gives us a great chance of a decent start.
The second half of the season looks pretty daunting but I would rather play the elite sides a good way into the season when they are more likely to rotate players rather than in the first few weeks.
I was pretty disgusted last season when we got Wigan, Warrington and St Helens in the opening weeks plus a side who have a great home record in Hull FC and Huddersfield Giants who almost always thrash us. You'd like a fair crack of the whip rather than five top seven sides.
This season I am very pleased. If I was to complain then 'd like to see us on Sky a bit more. I am also disappointed that the Magic weekend reshuffle which at long last sees teams matched versus similar opponents did not give us Salford or Widnes.
As for the on-the-road fixtures it is obvious that there is a need to grow crowds and it is better to cherry-pick opponents with large away crowds than not. So it is fair enough but I am sure that this will continue to antagonise so lets save this one for later.
Easy, Rammo
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| I see Andy Wilson in the Guardian is also talking about Oxford for the Wigan game. I'm not opposed to 'on the road games' but if they're to test the water for relocation venues then Oxford is nuts, as is Gillingham. Hey ho
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| Well you should be opposed to On the Road games (unless there's a Super League wide programme like the shortlived series in 199icon_cool.gif and you can't make an opinion (a fundamentally wrong one) and then say "let's park it".
On the Road is a cop out. We are either seroius about building a supporter base or we're not. If we are - get on with it. If we're not, rebrand as the Wanderers and play at various grounds in the South, Midlands and Cumbria and be done with it. I'm sure we can sellout Craven Park in Barrow!
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| my reason for not being against 'on the road games' is that it's obvious the club is moving. If the club had a home ground that was going to stay the home ground I'd be dead set against it but it doesnt. If they want to test the water this year in London or somewhere nearby - Watford for example - then by all means go for it. Oxford and Gillingham do not fill that criteria.
I'm all for the club putting down roots and putting in the hard work to engage the local population but that's not going to be Twickenham (or Oxford or Gillingham, surely?!)
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| Seem to remember that Oxford has been mooted as a new permanent home for the club in the past. Don't know if they'd still be interested with London Welsh as at least temporary tenants and there's now a CC1 side playing at Iffley Road (though we'll have to see how long they'll last).
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| Quote ="Rascal Bongo Stork"I see Andy Wilson in the Guardian is also talking about Oxford for the Wigan game. I'm not opposed to 'on the road games' but if they're to test the water for relocation venues then Oxford is nuts, as is Gillingham. Hey ho'"
Oxford, Gillingham, MK all equally
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| Northampton's looking for a team now!
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| I half hope that the new Saracens ground in Barnet gets a go, but not sure of the practicalities given the stands are 'temporary' and athletics takes place in the summer .... not sure how that works for javelin etc on the synthetic surface ! The set up for Saracens is 10k, nice layout, seems to have good access, etc.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"I half hope that the new Saracens ground in Barnet gets a go, but not sure of the practicalities given the stands are 'temporary' and athletics takes place in the summer .... not sure how that works for javelin etc on the synthetic surface ! The set up for Saracens is 10k, nice layout, seems to have good access, etc.'"
Yep, I agree.
If we're doing 2 on the road then it makes sense to do one in North London for a change, I'd also go Orient again.
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