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Ferriol gets off- Im not encouraging the banning of players but there doesn't appear to be any consistency with punishments handed out-Do you remember when we had 5 banned post a dust up-
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Ferriol gets off- Im not encouraging the banning of players but there doesn't appear to be any consistency with punishments handed out-Do you remember when we had 5 banned post a dust up-
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| I think you'll find that the disciplinary are very consistent in their inconsistency.
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| yeah but looking at it on boots n all tries prog looked a bit like a girly slap!!!! but goes to show, no consistency you are all correct
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It's probably worth reading the official judgement: www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1582
Wonder if there's a new interpretation this season, just for games at the Stoop - throw a punch and get a red card. And it was more of a slap than a punch.
Hothead Howell could have been in trouble again for running in to that incident. He was lucky that one of the Catalans players (Greenshields?) held him off. Esders did the right thing, i.e, nothing. Good for him.
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It's probably worth reading the official judgement: www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1582
Wonder if there's a new interpretation this season, just for games at the Stoop - throw a punch and get a red card. And it was more of a slap than a punch.
Hothead Howell could have been in trouble again for running in to that incident. He was lucky that one of the Catalans players (Greenshields?) held him off. Esders did the right thing, i.e, nothing. Good for him.
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| Quote ="BroncOnIon"Esders did the right thing, i.e, nothing.'"
Have you heard Macs team talks? Is that the game plan for the season?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Have you heard Macs team talks? Is that the game plan for the season?'"
I presume you are having a snide dig at Esders if so look at the first try.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"I presume you are having a snide dig at Esders if so look at the first try.'"
Esders for Man of Steel.
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| was impressed with esders actually, and in that incident showed a lot of maturity, he actually put his hands up and aplogised for the knee! then when the "slap" was thrown he put his hands up again and stood his ground rather than swinging back. Dont get me wrong aggression is good but as i was always told if someone want to throw a punch, take it and just smile back at the bloke who threw it does 2 things, gets you the penalty and if the bloke who threw the punch does not get sent off then he is gonna be confused to at someone who just smiles when you punch em!! they tend to stear clear of you from then on.
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| It was Golden.
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"I presume you are having a snide dig at Esders if so look at the first try.'"
Nope...was having a snide dig at the teams game plan! Having only seen a total of 16 minutes highlights on SLTV and seen the match reports to date, I may not be best placed to make such comments....
I will stick to Marketing in future 
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nope...was having a snide dig at the teams game plan! Having only seen a total of 16 minutes highlights on SLTV and seen the match reports to date, I may not be best placed to make such comments....
I will stick to Marketing in future
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1. Good. But snide digs is what you're good at.
2. But you're not in Marketing.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"1. Good. But snide digs is what you're good at.'"
Maybe....but I have always backed them up, stood up and been counted and offered alternatives.....unless you think the clubs marketing strategy deserves to be applauded that is. BTW......I do believe that your post was in itself a snide dig.....welcome to the club.
Quote ="Rooster Booster"2. But you're not in Marketing.'"
Define marketing? I have 15 year experience of "sales"...from small to large ticket prices and over these years have learnt a fair bit about marketing. I also, prior to being in sales spent 10 years turning run down pubs into profit making businesses.......this involved giving the customer what they wanted and MARKETING it correctly.....but you are correct, I am not in marketing. What I am in is semi-retirement...and at 44yrs of age, that points to me being pretty good at what I have done during my career.
If you have anything to say about any of the ideas I have come up with/stolen from other businesses over the years, please do.....but if, as usual you are just letting off steam at an easy target can I suggest you stick to subjects that you have a superior grasp of.
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| Can we have a sub forum called "Send in the marketeers" please.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Esders for Man of Steel.'"
Nah. Pipped to the post by Wilkes.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Maybe....but I have always backed them up, stood up and been counted and offered alternatives.....unless you think the clubs marketing strategy deserves to be applauded that is. BTW......I do believe that your post was in itself a snide dig.....welcome to the club.
Define marketing? I have 15 year experience of "sales"...from small to large ticket prices and over these years have learnt a fair bit about marketing. I also, prior to being in sales spent 10 years turning run down pubs into profit making businesses.......this involved giving the customer what they wanted and MARKETING it correctly.....but you are correct, I am not in marketing. What I am in is semi-retirement...and at 44yrs of age, that points to me being pretty good at what I have done during my career.
If you have anything to say about any of the ideas I have come up with/stolen from other businesses over the years, please do.....but if, as usual you are just letting off steam at an easy target can I suggest you stick to subjects that you have a superior grasp of.'"
I did smile as I typed. As I was having a snide dig at you as you are so draining. You believe in your own mind that as long as you can back what you believe up, it's right. But mate, all you do is have a go at the club, that's it. You then use the old "unless you think the clubs marketing strategy deserves to be applauded" line. Which is an attempt to twist it round. What have I said about Quins marketing? Nothing. Have I expressed an opinion on it. No! So nice effort.
As for your last semi-retirement comment. Well. Talk yourself up geezer. As long as you're happy. And your last para - I have made comments on your plans in the past and will not repeat them.
As for subjects I have a superior grasp of...... what happens on a Rugby League pitch may be one of them.
Everything that comes out of your gob is a dig at the club. Do you realise that? I reckon one day you should look back through your posts and see if you've said anything positive (bar an example of you believing the Quins instigated something that you and ONLY YOU may possibly have suggested once before). You say you offer alternatives. But you don't always. The first thing you often do is have a pop. But you don't see that. Like the recent viral episode. Did you applaud what wass innovative for us. NO.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"<snipe>
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OK.....Shoot holes in this then.....Oh, BTW....I make no apology for blowing my own trumpet.....in my game it's par for the course. Personally, I think I am a bit of a prat most of the time but at what I do.....I am the mutts nuts......sorry if that offends!
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| GF - FYI the club this year finally have at least got a marketing budget I beleive. Now whether or not you llike Oyster card holders or posters at stations at least something is being done.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"OK.....Shoot holes in this then.....Oh, BTW....I make no apology for blowing my own trumpet.....in my game it's par for the course. Personally, I think I am a bit of a prat most of the time but at what I do.....I am the mutts nuts......sorry if that offends!
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Why on earth would I shoot holes in this? See you think it's all about you. As part of your depressive nature you appear to have forgotten that I made some positive comments on this much oft posted list of yours and even mentioned it in my last reply. But you appear to have overlooked that also.
There's nothing wrong with you blowing your own trumpet, just be aware that people don't always like the noise.
I'm not offended by you, I have an interest in psychology. I would suggest that if it ain't to do with you, it's no good.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"
I'm not offended by you, I have an interest in psychology. I would suggest that if it ain't to do with you, it's no good.'"
some people think that I THINK THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND ME.
well guess what? IT DOESN'T....IT REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN......WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO SHINE OUT OF MY @RSE
Did I mention that a sense of humour helps in my job as well?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"some people think that I THINK THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND ME.
well guess what? IT DOESN'T....IT REVOLVES AROUND THE SUN......WHICH JUST SO HAPPENS TO SHINE OUT OF MY @RSE
Did I mention that a sense of humour helps in my job as well?'"
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Good deflection.'"
OK...here goes.
1. I have more than a passing interest in marketing techniques.....but I am predominently a Sales Person.
2. I was asked by the RFL (2005 IIRC) if I would be interested in working for Quins RL.....but was unable to look any further into this due to the fact I had a/other commitments and b/ they weren't paying enough. Not bigging myself up...just stating a fact.
3. At a later date I applied for the advertised Marketing Job at Quins RL and didn't get past the pre-selection stage of the head-hunter the club employed. The club didn't employ anyone to the Marketing Role at that time.
4. This was neither the first nor the last time that I have been turned down for jobs.....and as such, I took it in my stride. In my job, no is almost as welcome as yes in the answer stakes!
5. The Club are and were at the time aware of who I am.....I do not hide behind my board-name.
6. I have been asked by various people at the club and the rfl on more than 1 occassion to "take it easy" on these boards and have done so.....
7. Apparently, some people at the club take my critisisms on these boards personally........something I do not intend at any time.
8. I have always offered any assistance I can give to the club with no expectation of reward or praise.
9. I have always had the best interest of the Club and London RL at heart.....I am not on an ego massaging mission......as I have said, if I don't get paid for it, it doesn't affect me.7
10...I hope the club prove me wrong and manage to up the average gate in 2010...I really do, but I will continue to point out where they make mistakes IN MY OPINION..
You will see the liberal use of the word [size=200"I" [/sizein the above...enjoy my Psychoanalytical friend. 
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| Quote ="gutterfax"OK...here goes.
1. I have more than a passing interest in marketing techniques.....but I am predominently a Sales Person.
2. I was asked by the RFL (2005 IIRC) if I would be interested in working for Quins RL.....but was unable to look any further into this due to the fact I had a/other commitments and b/ they weren't paying enough. Not bigging myself up...just stating a fact.
3. At a later date I applied for the advertised Marketing Job at Quins RL and didn't get past the pre-selection stage of the head-hunter the club employed. The club didn't employ anyone to the Marketing Role at that time.
4. This was neither the first nor the last time that I have been turned down for jobs.....and as such, I took it in my stride. In my job, no is almost as welcome as yes in the answer stakes!
5. The Club are and were at the time aware of who I am.....I do not hide behind my board-name.
6. I have been asked by various people at the club and the rfl on more than 1 occassion to "take it easy" on these boards and have done so.....
7. Apparently, some people at the club take my critisisms on these boards personally........something I do not intend at any time.
8. I have always offered any assistance I can give to the club with no expectation of reward or praise.
9. I have always had the best interest of the Club and London RL at heart.....I am not on an ego massaging mission......as I have said, if I don't get paid for it, it doesn't affect me.7
10...I hope the club prove me wrong and manage to up the average gate in 2010...I really do, but I will continue to point out where they make mistakes IN MY OPINION..
You will see the liberal use of the word [size=200"I" [/sizein the above...enjoy my Psychoanalytical friend.
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Did No.3 have a big effect on you (as a head hunter's thought you weren't good enough) and the fact that you even had to write No.4 show it?
As for 9. If you've always had the best interest of the club at heart, why haven't you learnt to bite your tongue sometimes instead of coming on here and venting your spleen?
It's wrong that people say for you to be muzzled, but please, please, please why don't you pay attention to your No.6 sometimes, or even attempt to give them praise on occasion.
Lastly. Why did you even write that list?
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| I am sure you the best interests of the club at heart...
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9. I have always had the best interest of the Club and London RL at heart.....I am not on an ego massaging mission......as I have said, if I don't get paid for it, it doesn't affect me.'"
yet when push comes to shove you want the cash
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2. I was asked by the RFL (2005 IIRC) if I would be interested in working for Quins RL.....but was unable to look any further into this due to the fact I had a/other commitments and b/ they weren't paying enough. Not bigging myself up...just stating a fact.'"
You've shut up when asked apparently
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But in fact you haven't...
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No one has a problem with an opinion, in fact without opinions we wouldn’t have a site. The problem is you don’t appear to compliment the marketing team’s efforts, ever, more you are negative, in my opinion because you are not seeing what you believe is right. I.e. posters in the train station and flower on the roundabout. I’m surprised you are so disparaging of the marketing dept at the club when you don’t have the full facts. Success isn’t going to happen over night as I’m sure you are aware with your history in sales.
Its good that we have sponsors on the kit etc, boxes are being sold, Virgin are getting involved-all income. The indicator of success for most club though appears to be the crowds, which currently we are not increasing.
Anyway- Carvell got of his one game ban-What is the purpose of the disciplinary?
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| Quote ="east stander" Anyway- Carvell got of his one game ban-What is the purpose of the disciplinary?'"
Phew, thank the lord for getting a thread back on topic.
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