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| Leeds were very good it has to be said. Would have beaten anyone today. Having said that we can all see there is certaily a gap between Leeds and the rest when they are on song. If your not at your best and Leeds are - forget it
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| A reality check for BMac's Grand Final ambitions
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| We haven't got too much to worry about. A lot of players didn't perform and we've got room for improvement.
We should to give Leeds a lot of credit as well. They were red hot and some of the skill was sensational.
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| Quote ="PTB"We haven't got too much to worry about. A lot of players didn't perform and we've got room for improvement.
We should to give Leeds a lot of credit as well. They were red hot and some of the skill was sensational.'"
Think we came up against a Leeds team that first 10 minutes aside were as good as any team you'll see. Didn't help with the errors we made either but we just couldn't stay with the Rhinos tonight - its disappointing but we need to put it behind us and get set for the next game.
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| John Kear quoted some statistic on Radio 5 Extra last night about how often teams who have been stuffed come back and win their next game. Let’s all hope he’s adding next Sunday to his list.
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| Terrible, embarrassing performance. Nobody looked interested. As pointed out, only LMS was decent, with a shout for Wells too.
As for Will Sharp? Unbelievable, incredible, comedy.
Our goal line defence was WOEFUL and a major concern.
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| Video ref did us no favours. How did he allow the try just before half time? Its OK to completely take players out off the ball now is it? (Irrespective if they are involved in the play). Randall got absolutely flattened and it was ignored. Brilliant.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Video ref did us no favours. How did he allow the try just before half time?
Its OK to completely take players out off the ball now is it? (Irrespective if they are involved in the play). Randall got absolutely flattened and it was ignored. Brilliant.'"
Not pointing the obvious but maybe because he genuinely thought it was a try.
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| Quote ="Mysterious Rhino"Not pointing the obvious but maybe because he genuinely thought it was a try.'"
Explain to me how its OK for Randall to be completely taken out away from the action?
Is that generally acceptable now? If a player flies out of the line in the centres, they can flatten their opposite number even if the ball is on the other side of the pitch?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Explain to me how its OK for Randall to be completely taken out away from the action?
Is that generally acceptable now? If a player flies out of the line in the centres, they can flatten their opposite number even if the ball is on the other side of the pitch?'" Who flattened him? When was this? Must be in the build up to a Leeds try?
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| Is it just me or is Williamson looking like a poor piece of business? Woeful today. At fault for a lot of the penalties, some silly decisions when on the ball and not great in defence.
Don't understand why Golden was subbed on about the 30 minute mark and never re-appeared, when 'Cougar' played the full 80.
Chad, superb as always, as was Clubby and LMS.
Also why didn't Gale appear for the second half? Didn't see him pick up an injury....
Also....Howell is very underrated.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Explain to me how its OK for Randall to be completely taken out away from the action?
Is that generally acceptable now? If a player flies out of the line in the centres, they can flatten their opposite number even if the ball is on the other side of the pitch?'"
Its obviously not ok for players to be taken out at any time by anyone but the answer to your original question stands the VR Phil Bentham in this matter would surely not give a try unless he genuinely thought it was a try.
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| Two things to factor in for yesterday:
(1) We beat them at Headingley, so they were really up for this game.
(2) If we'd beaten them by 16+ we'd have taken their place as second in the table, which they seem to be content to maintain until the play-offs. I'm with the contributor to another thread who reckons Leeds are in cruise control until the end of the regular season and are just doing enough to keep their present position.
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| Leeds were very good once they got into gear (from about midway through the first half onwards) but we remained competitive until just before half time. Conceding fourteen points in the space of about five minutes either side of the break, thanks to some schoolboy errors, killed us off. Leeds didn't take their foot off our throat after that and we were made to look rather naive and pedestrian; our defnce repeatedly punctured by quick incisive attacks. Leeds looked mentally one step ahead as well as physically quicker and apart from the one second half try we barely threatened their line after that.
BMc wrote in his programme column that the only way to react to a heavy defeat is hard graft - it's never an option to go easy in training or a day off. I reckon our team are in for their most intensive week of the season and hopefully we'll bounce back with a win at Belle Vue next weekend, because we haven't lost consecutive league games so far this year.
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| Quote ="Matt23"Who flattened him? When was this? Must be in the build up to a Leeds try?'"
Leuluai flattened Randall. Why does it have to be in the build up to a try? Its taking a player out off the ball - nothing to do with obstruction, its still a penalty.
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| Quote ="Stooper"Is it just me or is Williamson looking like a poor piece of business? Woeful today. At fault for a lot of the penalties, some silly decisions when on the ball and not great in defence.
Don't understand why Golden was subbed on about the 30 minute mark and never re-appeared, when 'Cougar' played the full 80.
Chad, superb as always, as was Clubby and LMS.
Also why didn't Gale appear for the second half? Didn't see him pick up an injury....
Also....Howell is very underrated.'"
Randall was terrible
And you thought Clubb had a good game?! Some Leeds supporters I was talking to didn't even realise he was on the pitch.
And you are slagging off Williamson? Honestly did I watch a different game? He probably has more tackles and hit ups than the huge majority of the team.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Video ref did us no favours. How did he allow the try just before half time?
Its OK to completely take players out off the ball now is it? (Irrespective if they are involved in the play). Randall got absolutely flattened and it was ignored. Brilliant.'"
randall mis read the play and moved across to tackle the wrong man. he moved towards the leeds dummy runner. a poor play on his behalf
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| Quote ="tad rhino"randall mis read the play and moved across to tackle the wrong man. he moved towards the leeds dummy runner. a poor play on his behalf'"
Disagree. I still think at the end of the day he was taken out off the ball by a "dummy runner" who was nowhere near the play. So now its OK to take people out if they are dummy runners and the defender makes the mistake of being in the way? Disgusting decision IMO, at least it had no bearing on the game though.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"And you are slagging off Williamson? Honestly did I watch a different game? He probably has more tackles and hit ups than the huge majority of the team.'"
I thought Williamson was possibly our best performer on the day. He's a tough, unflashy forward who helps provide the platform for creative players to shine and doesn't give much away. He's a very much team player who does the hard yards, not someone who's going to do inspirational solo stuff, and I'm not sure he could have been expected to do much more within a generally mediocre team performance against strong opposition playing near their peak.
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"I thought Williamson was possibly our best performer on the day. He's a tough, unflashy forward who helps provide the platform for creative players to shine and doesn't give much away. He's a very much team player who does the hard yards, not someone who's going to do inspirational solo stuff, and I'm not sure he could have been expected to do much more within a generally mediocre team performance against strong opposition playing near their peak.'"
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Leuluai flattened Randall. Why does it have to be in the build up to a try? Its taking a player out off the ball - nothing to do with obstruction, its still a penalty.'"
Even for you this is emarrasing and thats saying something - T......R.....Y.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Even for you this is emarrasing and thats saying something - T......R.....Y.'"
Go back to being made look stupid on SouthStander
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| Having watched the game via the comfort of my sofa, without the sun in my eyes, I have to say that with the exception of the first 10 -12 minutes, Leeds dominated the play.
Quins were at the races in those first 10 mins Rhino's weren't. When you get phases in games such as that then you have to capitilise on them. Scoring only 4 points isn't doing that. Sinfield rallied his boys with a few sharp words. Did we miss Purdham's leadership last night during this crucile stage of play? I suspect we did. Webb also made a try saving ingoal tackle at a stage of the game when Quins were still in the hunt.
When Quins turned over the ball, Rhino's made better use of it than when the situation was reversed.
Sharp had a mare, Randall a good game but not up to his recent high standands and again Howell showed his worth in a Quins shirt.
At this stage in the season I can't see beyond a Saints & Rhino's grand final.
And if at the begining of the season anyone had said we'd be in striking distance of home advantage in the play offs we'd have all bitten of their hand.
keep the faith
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