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| I appreciate that for the most part Quins fans were well received yesterday, unfortunately the welcome was not all hearts and flowers.....I was stood in the main group of Quins fans on the terrace and ended up having to mop SPIT off me......as the Crusaders `fans` on the gantry above were SPITTING on the Quins fans below. I made an official complaint to a nearby steward who got security involved......absolutely F`in disgusting and the Crusaders supporters involved should be ashamed of themselves, it totally ruined my day.
I have been a long term Quins/sports fan and have never ever experienced that at any other sport or stadium.......and I used to be a Millwall supporter!!!
It`s not the first time I have visited their ground, never had a problem before, but needless to say I will not be going back. Absolutely F`in disgraceful.
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| I was trying to work out during the game who was actually allowed on the gantry bit above where we were standing. It seems it is where the hospitality boxes are and those watching from the gantry were mainly Crusaders sponsors and guests and crusaders reserves etc.
I think I was standing slightly forward of where under the sticks was standing and after this happened changed my position to get out of the firing line so to speak.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"I appreciate that for the most part Quins fans were well received yesterday, unfortunately the welcome was not all hearts and flowers.....I was stood in the main group of Quins fans on the terrace and ended up having to mop SPIT off me......as the Crusaders `fans` on the gantry above were SPITTING on the Quins fans below. I made an official complaint to a nearby steward who got security involved......absolutely F`in disgusting and the Crusaders supporters involved should be ashamed of themselves, it totally ruined my day.
I have been a long term Quins/sports fan and have never ever experienced that at any other sport or stadium.......and I used to be a Millwall supporter!!!
It`s not the first time I have visited their ground, never had a problem before, but needless to say I will not be going back. Absolutely F`in disgraceful.'"
You sure they werent just singing in Welsh?
or for that matter just joining in the "toffs v taffs" chant
but yeah i heard a Celtic kid spot it and point it out to his dad.
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| Thats the lowest of the low,i can remember a similar incident at the Valley when we played Halifax,as you say,absolutely disgusting.
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| Im sure most clubs get there tw*ts. I would like to apologise on there behalf. However we are not all like that.
Well done yesterday on a superb performance and an even better crowd performance.
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| Quote ="Crusaders"Im sure most clubs get there tw*ts. I would like to apologise on there behalf. However we are not all like that.
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Like I said in my original post `for the most part Quins fans were well received" but clearly you have some problem fans and they need to be sorted............I do not know of any other SL RL club where an element of the home fans GOB on the opposition. But hey let`s just ignore it, brush it under the carpet etc.......perhaps next time it will be a bottle/glass that falls on the opposition instead of just SPIT.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Like I said in my original post `for the most part Quins fans were well received" but clearly you have some problem fans and they need to be sorted............I do not know of any other SL RL club where an element of the home fans GOB on the opposition. But hey let`s just ignore it, brush it under the carpet etc.......perhaps next time it will be a bottle/glass that falls on the opposition instead of just SPIT.'"
Whilst I can understand your anger UTS, (I have already said I wouldn't have been as calm as you were), it only takes a couple of idiots to ruin a good day out. I have said on the welsh boards that I was concerned that the 4 old bill did nothing about it and they were 15 yards away from us. It is a criminal offence to spit at someone and the entire contents of the corporate box should probably have been asked to leave.
Let's just hope it was a one off thing, but it wouldn't do any harm if you were to email BOTH clubs and let them know how strongly you feel about this.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Whilst I can understand your anger UTS, (I have already said I wouldn't have been as calm as you were), it only takes a couple of idiots to ruin a good day out. I have said on the welsh boards that I was concerned that the 4 old bill did nothing about it and they were 15 yards away from us. It is a criminal offence to spit at someone and the entire contents of the corporate box should probably have been asked to leave.
Let's just hope it was a one off thing, but it wouldn't do any harm if you were to email BOTH clubs and let them know how strongly you feel about this.'"
Done......I have spoken with Paul Blanchard at Quins and have lodged an official letter of complaint with the General Manager of both clubs.
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| Quote ="Under the sticks"Done......I have spoken with Paul Blanchard at Quins and have lodged an official letter of complaint with the General Manager of both clubs.'"
Please keep us posted on responses. You are right. This sort of behaviour has no place in our (or any other) game and needs to be stamped on straight away.
As away fans, we spent a minimum of £6,000 yesterday, so let's see what response you get. Maybe next year, you'll get a box
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Please keep us posted on responses. You are right. This sort of behaviour has no place in our (or any other) game and needs to be stamped on straight away.
As away fans, we spent a minimum of £6,000 yesterday, so let's see what response you get. Maybe next year, you'll get a box
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?x ? x ? =£6,000
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| Quote ="Darthchris"?x ? x ? =£6,000'"
Perhaps 300 fans buying tickets at £20 a piece?
A rough calculation, they don't charge that much do they?
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| Quote ="Darthchris"?x ? x ? =£6,000'"
Mmm...and this questioning from the man who consumed a fair few pints at £2.50 a pop
£14 ticket....2 pints at £2.50 is £19......315 fans. Now, I know we probably had less than that, but I purchased 9 pints (no...I didn't drink them all ) so it all evens out....£6,000 is about right.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Mmm...and this questioning from the man who consumed a fair few pints at £2.50 a pop
£14 ticket....2 pints at £2.50 is £19......315 fans. Now, I know we probably had less than that, but I purchased 9 pints (no...I didn't drink them all
) so it all evens out....£6,000 is about right.'"
I had 4 in the ground
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| Quote ="Darthchris"I had 4 in the ground'"
so £24.....250 of you = £6,000.
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| There was a few locals smoking in front of stewards and police in the stand too, the steward just told them to do it more subtly. Not too impressed, not really sure what a club with facilities like that adds to SL either, I hope the RFL knows something we dont about where they're going.
I guess all of us standing right in the middle of the popular stand rather than behind a goal or, to one side might have been a bit provocative to some of the locals. Not defending the spitting though, thats disgraceful.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"There was a few locals smoking in front of stewards and police in the stand too, the steward just told them to do it more subtly. Not too impressed, not really sure what a club with facilities like that adds to SL either, I hope the RFL knows something we dont about where they're going.
I guess all of us standing right in the middle of the popular stand rather than behind a goal or, to one side might have been a bit provocative to some of the locals. Not defending the spitting though, thats disgraceful.'"
wow should we start a who adds the most to superleague argument? are you sure? should we start with crowd numbers or is that off limits? How about we are both great non-heartland clubs spreading the word in difficult territory and support each other as best we can? what do you reckon?
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| Guys, thought you might be interested in this.
Safo, who posts on our own fansite and on here is one of the higher-ups at Brewery Field and recently responded to the spitting incident with the following feedback:-
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Hi everyone, just to let you know, the Quins fan did put in a letter of complaint, and we have been in touch with him, explaining the "on the day" actions and the continued actions this week. The Box where the spitting came from was spoken too and further action is being taken this week. Most importantly the Quins fan has been given a much more detailed account of EVERYTHING that is being done, (more than I will explain on here) but suffice to say he can see that we do take matters like this seriously and view them with disgust. Every sporting club will suffer from mindless prats like this on occasions, and whilst no one can gaurantee that incidents like this won't ever happen, we can gaurantee that as a club we will treat offenders harshley and make sure they do not have the opportunity to re-offend at our games!! Most feedback we do receive is positive re the welcome visitors receive at the Brewery Field from most of our fans. This is only our 4th home game in Super League, and we are obviously getting new and different fans coming along. People will learn over the season that we will not tolerate behaviour which is unacceptable to US as a club. We won't the new supporters, unfortunately, some of the new supporters visiting us I feel are just curious "one game" on lookers who don't mind stirring things up. Let's continue working together to build, both on and off the field, a stadium that's a fortress on the field, and a great social occasion on the terraces for ALL fans. This is a "first year" for us all, and I have been supprised at some the issues we have had to deal with already. Glad to say though the supprises have been all to do with "newbeys" to our stadium. See you all in 2 weeks.
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As he mentioned he has been in contact with Quins and the person who made the complaint too.
For what it's worth guys, we are as disgusted by the spitting cretin as you are. You brought a sizeable, humorous (always a good thing) and very friendly support with you and deserved better than to be spat on by some hospitality box freeloader.
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| Oh and Tre Cool,
Visiting fans are VERY welcome in our main stand. That's how we always watched Union there, and I'd like to think it's how we'll always watch League.
Was wetting myself with laughter when we were all celebrating scoring a consolation try and the Quins fans started up with "We're not singing, we're not singing, we're not singing anymore!"
Priceless!
I hope you will consider coming down again next year for more of the same (though hopefully with a better result for us) and without the dribbling yokel above you.
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| It's good to see that Crusaders have moved to address the matter. I was stood just behind the spitting victim and it was disgusting.
I do have to say though that, on the whole I really enjoyed the visit to the Brewery Field. The atmosphere in the bar under the stand afterwards was superb and I enjoyed chatting with many of your supporters, with whom, I think, as the only other non-heartland club, that we have some affinity with. I will definitely return to Brewery Field next season.
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| Quote ="jannerboyuk"wow should we start a who adds the most to superleague argument? are you sure? should we start with crowd numbers or is that off limits? How about we are both great non-heartland clubs spreading the word in difficult territory and support each other as best we can? what do you reckon?'"
It is my opinion that the Crusaders are not ready for SL and should not have been admitted with a stadium like that and such little grass roots RL. Succesful new franchises (and i dont include us in that) come from areas like Perpignan, Auckland, Gold Coast where there is good grass roots RL, good financial backing, good stadia and a solid fanbase. Im not for the model of us (as was the London Broncos) or Celtic Crusaders being admitted into SL, it lowers the standard of the competition with the romantic hope of top down development. Not for me. But I hope it works and i support what you are trying to do.
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| Twaddle, Les Cats took a pasting in their first season too, no one would now say they have not enhanced the competition.
As for using NRL teams get real, what comparison is there to be made there.
Sure Crusaders will take some beatings but I bet they will suprise a few teams too. As for grounds .... lets throw Saints out then.
Only time will tell but if Crusaders can make inroads in the RU heartland of Wales then good on them.
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| Quote ="nnl01"Twaddle, Les Cats took a pasting in their first season too, no one would now say they have not enhanced the competition.
As for using NRL teams get real, what comparison is there to be made there.
Sure Crusaders will take some beatings but I bet they will suprise a few teams too. As for grounds .... lets throw Saints out then.
Only time will tell but if Crusaders can make inroads in the RU heartland of Wales then good on them.'"
Les Cats took a pasting in front of 8000 fans a week and a developing fine stadium with a squad with a high percentage of locals in it.
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| Crusaders are taking their beatings in front of larger crowds than Quins RL, thank god (or should that be judicous calculation) that was not the only criteria applied when handing out licences, their ground is under development as is their team.
Cats were overloaded with Aussies and Kiwis to start as well, their stadium is nothing to write home aboiut either, two stands very little facilaties once inside the ground, they just have the benefit of very nice weather.
If SL was down to crowd size, home grown talent and a decent stadium it would be down to a competion of one, As most clubs are deficient in some areas.
I for one am happy to give Crusaders a chance for three years, same as Cats were given when they were promoted into the competition.
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| Glad I stood to one side of our crowd since I left my umbrella at home. Being gobbed on isn’t my idea of a fun day out.
If Celtic are on a mass recruitment drive for new fans, then some of the first timers are likely to be more used to watching Cardiff City, a team who, let’s be fair, have fans who have something of a reputation.
That said, I see no reason why, given time and people letting them know when the problems happen, the one or two idiots who spoil it for the rest won’t learn that’s not what RL is about.
I thought Celtic’s ground was OK, sure it ain’t the JJB or Huddersfield (I hate Huds ground by the way), but I didn’t come away thinking it was dreadful. I confess I tend to prefer my grounds to be a little rough around the edges.
I’ll certainly be going back again.
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| I thought the ground was perfectly adequate and as for the gobbing incident most unpleasant but I noticed the stewards keeping an eye out once reported and seems steps are being taken to address the issue.
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