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| If he is named as Bradford coach within the next week (as expected), will you be sad to see him go or relieved?
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| We have a 19% win record since last June.
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| Bit of both.......
Results have been poor for too long now and the coach has to take responsibility, but there's been a lot of bad luck on the way with injuries etc and I feel that he is a better coach than he's shown here.
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| You haven't exactly got a star-studded squad though, and you've also had bad injuries.
At times you can play some good rugby though, and you managed to beat Wigan this season.
Maybe i'm just trying to see the positives though, as I can't see why our board would chosse Brian Mac over Mick Potter.
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| Very relieved.
Not many teams outside the 'usual' top 6 can boast talent like LMS, Orr, Dorn, Purdham, Clubb & Randall together. Throw in the Scott Hill's, Henry Paul's, Mark Mclinden's we've had at our disposal and a finish in the bottom half is simply not good enough. We're looking at the very real possibility of finishing bottom this year.
Big Mac has coached the talent out of our talisman players; regardless of injuries, we look poor in every avenue.
Expect second half capitulations in most games, as well as a poor finish to any season regardless of flying high early on.
Oh, and if you get spanked by 50 points or more, you can be very proud and happy of the performance, because next week you'll 'take the positives' and 'build on that'...and get beaten by 50 again.
Can't wait to see the back of the man.
But god help you Quins, appoint someone half decent. If Walters gets his foot in the door, then we can kiss goodbye to London RL for a while.
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| Good luck at Bradford Brian, good luck to the Bulls fans too but not on Friday.
Are things really gonna start looking up? Skolars win and a new coach (not Walters please!)
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| Worryingly the papers are tipping Potter for the Bulls-Please God take Mac away from London-His tenure as head coach has been the worst period I have had to endure as a London RL fan. I was only thinking yesterday how much I haven't enjoyed watching RL over the past 12 months. I dont even expect a great deal, but what he dishes up is unacceptable-I understand our finacial limitation etc
Good ridence
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| McDermott for me is not a coach, he was pushed into the role too quickly, some people are just made to be assistants, we can't all be generals!
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| I'm fairly resigned to what ever changes take place. I don't think McDermotts a terrible coach but then I don't see how things can get much worse. I'm forseeing a lot of personnel changes next year and the only thing that worries me is if we will have the money to afford high standard replacements for all the people moving on.
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| Quote ="KensalGreenRL"I'm fairly resigned to what ever changes take place. I don't think McDermotts a terrible coach but then I don't see how things can get much worse. I'm forseeing a lot of personnel changes next year and the only thing that worries me is if we will have the money to afford high standard replacements for all the people moving on.'"
I agree with this.
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| I wouldn't be suprised if he did go, got to look out for his future and earn money for his family etc. I can't see there being a Quins RL for too many years to come. I'm not wishing to sound pessimistic, but David Hughes is approaching retirement very soon (as far as I've been informed) and won't then have money to keep paying our bills. I'm pretty sure Sky money only just covers the players wages...everything else Mr Hughes funds.
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| I think all but the most exceptional coaches have a "shelf life" in a particular role, after which they are unlikely to take the club any further in the right direction. My feeling is that Mac has done all he can with Quins and is now treading water at best. The first half of last season represented real progress results wise, but after the customary mid-season injury crisis halted us in our tracks a more worrying downward trend seemed to manifest itself and we've never been quite the same since. There was a brief revival kickstarted by the magnificent win at Wigan, but that seems to have fizzled out again, and it's now something like six wins from about the last thirty Superleague matches.
With regard to signing players and paying their salaries there are two obvious disadvantages for our club which are only really shared by Catalans amongst our rivals. Twelve of the other fourteen clubs wishing to sign players from each other can usually do so without the player concerned having to move house; and enticing any player down here from one of those clubs probably requires us to offer a generous salary increase to compensate for higher cost of living in the London area. Hence an average seasoned Superleague player like Oliver Wilkes apparently got an offer with which his previous club simply couldn't compete. (And hence we're probably close to the salary cap without making real star singings recently.) However, there has to be another coach out there who can improve the situation even with these obvious constraints under which we operate. Whether or not we can find him is another matter, but I think we've now reached a stage where we need to be proactive and give it a try. Mac may well go to another club and have a new lease of life; I think a parting of the ways is begining to look mutually beneficial.
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| McGuire has brought no one in a Wigan and look at the difference there-That is good coaching
Mac has a decent squad- not brilliant but certainly not bottom of the league
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| On Friday night Wire-Quin posted:
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What does he bring to the team-the tactics are dreadful, he is forever putting players in the wrong positions. Im at a loss with him-He is useless-these are his players[/i
After reading Red Amber and Black regularly it seems McDermott will be a straight swap for Macnamara.
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| Quote ="Marcus Notsquare"On Friday night Wire-Quin posted:
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After reading Red Amber and Black regularly it seems McDermott will be a straight swap for Macnamara.'"
Macnamara will be the full time England coach and as far as I am aware not available to coach a SL side.
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| Quote ="east stander"McGuire has brought no one in a Wigan and look at the difference there-That is good coaching
Mac has a decent squad- not brilliant but certainly not bottom of the league'"
Completely agree, there is talent in our squad, albeit a squad lacking in depth. McGuire is to my mind exactly the sort of coach we need. An Aussie looking to make his name, possibly acting as an assistant in the NRL, and maybe with a bit of the mongrel in him to shake things up a bit. Look at Nathan Brown, someone like him would surely improve things.
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| Quote ="east stander"McGuire has brought no one in a Wigan and look at the difference there-That is good coaching'"
I hope you aren't being serious.
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| I think Brian has had a lot to contend with since he's been down here.
It must have been pretty tough when we didn't have a CEO and when Lenegan departed (wasn't it him that wanted Mac here?).
That said, I think it is time for a change of coach. Good luck to
Brian whatever he chooses to do. I think he tried very hard but we need a change of direction.
Anyone know what Tony Currie is up to? I'd like to see him back here.
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| getting a bit worried, its ok putting a positive stuff on things but, text recieved fromWIN regarding last weeks game
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| I think it is time to part company with BM. He was never the greatest communicator, but his `tell it how it is` approach (which seemed refreshing at first) seems to have been replaced with a siege mentality the longer his lack of success has dragged on. It`s impossible to engage him in any conversation after a game and any approach is dismissed with a terse comment. Clearly he is no longer enjoying his time at Quins. Like any other SL coach in the bottom half of the table he has had his fair share of problems with player injuries, lack of resources etc, but he seems unable tactically to find any answers or bring about any lasting improvement. All we are offered is empty sound bites about how well we played after yet another 40-50 point thrashing. Bradford are welcome to him and I hope he gets the success he thinks he deserves........we will get a new coach and hopefully that coach will not find it too hard to improve upon our abysmal 20% success rate......we might even get one that does not snarl at the fans!!
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| I think it's time for a change - next season could easily be equally as bad for us, as I foresee a number of experienced departures with replacements most likely to come from outside of Super League. I'm not sure whether Mac will go to Bradford as the rumours about Potter seem to be quite strong at the moment, regardless of his "I'm going back to Australia" protestations.
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| I suspect that come the start of 2011 season Mac will still be here.................
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| Quote ="The Lambeth Quin"I suspect that come the start of 2011 season Mac will still be here.................'"
I hope so tbh.
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| Quote east stander wrote:McGuire has brought no one in a Wigan and look at the difference there-That is good coaching
I hope you aren't being serious.'"
Deadly serious, why do you believe it is inaccurate and if so why?
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