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| Now, given I will be many many miles away by the time the season KO's next Feb, I don't have much personal financial interest, but I was just wondering if there would be any merit in going down the Huddersfield route and offering a full season for £100?
If we have 1,500 ST holders currently paying an average of £250, then this would cost an initial £225k in revenue. The up-side would be the potential uptake from those occassionals. I am not saying we would add to 2,250 ST holders, but if the club were to promote this heavily between now and the start of next season, then I can see at least 1,000 being added to the average.
I would also reduce the walk up price to £10.
DH has gone on record as saying that gate revenue isn't the be all and end all so I can't imagine that this would impact too much (if he is to be believed). I would also offer every Union ST holder the same deal.
For those that still want to pay a bit more in allocated seating, the middle three blocks (in whatever stand the club decide to use) can be charged at say £150.
As I say, unless NZ immigration get a call from the Warriors Marketing team, I won't be here, but I just wanted to see what people on here think.
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| Good call GF. I don't understand it, but I always agree with you and you get a lot of stick on here, it is beyond me.
Slogan: 'A ton of fun', don't forget a Loyal and Loud section who should pay only £75 to compensate for wear and tear on throats and lungs (I am serious by way, the players get a buzz from atmosphere). Get adverts in football programmes for at least for Brentford and Wimbledon and do a deal with the freebies. I would also do a sampler with £50 for half the games, as not everyone can manage a whole season.
It ain't rocket science is it?. I would rather have 1,000 at £100 than 500 at £200. Get on to the Giants and see how it is done, it is no accident that they are on the up. The clock is ticking to 2011.
Boy, will we miss you Gutters!
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| Quote ="poplar panther"
Boy, will we miss you Gutters!'"
They have t'internet thingy in New Zealand my friend
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| I got a feeling that you will get your claws into the Warriors and your Kryptonite powers will be diminished from the other side of the planet. I will only have Mr Lister to astound me!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"is that what your careers officer said about you
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| Given the economic period we are in coupled with the fact that everything else has been tried, I would be enclined to say go for broke Quins and try something along those lines.
Maybe altered slightly along the lines of
North/South stand ST holders £99.00
East/West unallocated ST £149.00
East/West allocated est seats £199.00 [heavily stewarded
Walk up Adult £10.00
Walk up child/student/OAP £1.00
7 game ST North/South £69.00
7 game ST East/West £89.00
Unallocated East/West Family £299.00 [2 adults / 2 child
Unallocated North/South Family £199.00 [2 adults / 2 child
10% discount on all ST prices if renewed/taken up Pre Nov 1st
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| Quote ="Homer"Given the economic period we are in coupled with the fact that everything else has been tried, I would be enclined to say go for broke Quins and try something along those lines.
Maybe altered slightly along the lines of
North/South stand ST holders £99.00
East/West unallocated ST £149.00
East/West allocated est seats £199.00 [heavily stewarded
Walk up Adult £10.00
Walk up child/student/OAP £1.00
7 game ST North/South £69.00
7 game ST East/West £89.00
Unallocated East/West Family £299.00 [2 adults / 2 child
Unallocated North/South Family £199.00 [2 adults / 2 child
10% discount on all ST prices if renewed/taken up Pre Nov 1st'"
This sort of structure would be an improvement on the current one, which has too many strata with too big a gap between cheapest and dearest.
Keep it simple - no more than two prices within the same stand, and no more than three overall. Reserved seats for those who wish to pay top price, unallocated seats for everyone else so they can sit with mates who aren't STHs.
I do think a £10 walk up price is a bit too cheap though. If it was £15 we'd still be the cheapest in the league.
Maybe each season ticket book could include a few complimentary tickets that could be used by friends for any match if accompanied by the season ticket holder?
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark"I do think a £10 walk up price is a bit too cheap though. If it was £15 we'd still be the cheapest in the league.
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Problem is, if you are looking to attract NEW fans, then £15 is a tad steep. Remember, the target audience are lapsed northern ex-pats, Australians, Union fans, Soccer fans out of season and locals..........and if you make it attractive (£10), then you have a better chance of getting them through the gate. The £100 ST should take care of the occassionals, so the £10 walk up ticket will be purely for the Newbies.
Bottom line is, that the current ticketing system isn't working, with people paying £15 to sit in a £25 seat and stewards who don't enforce the correct allocation. 2 Blocks, heavily stewarded and tickets checked, with the rest £10 walk up seats
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| Quote ="Prince of Denmark":3htif45u This sort of structure would be an improvement on the current one, which has too many strata with too big a gap between cheapest and dearest. '" if the "casual" pricing model is maintained, the proposition to attend becomes attractive enough to increase the gates............whether or not the Giants seat income matches the lower sold/higher priced model is the $64,000 question.
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| Quote ="Homer"Given the economic period we are in coupled with the fact that everything else has been tried, I would be enclined to say go for broke Quins and try something along those lines.
Maybe altered slightly along the lines of
North/South stand ST holders £99.00
East/West unallocated ST £149.00
East/West allocated est seats £199.00 [heavily stewarded
Walk up Adult £10.00
Walk up child/student/OAP £1.00
7 game ST North/South £69.00
7 game ST East/West £89.00
Unallocated East/West Family £299.00 [2 adults / 2 child
Unallocated North/South Family £199.00 [2 adults / 2 child
10% discount on all ST prices if renewed/taken up Pre Nov 1st'"
This all sounds eminently sensible - so in all honesty the chances of the club doing something like this would be f**k all squared, in a box!
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| Homer's model makes a lot of sense to me too - the only adjustment I would make is the increase the child/OAP/student rate to £5. There are quite a few older folk and students who currently buy season tickets - making it a £1 walkup would completely take that revenue away.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Homer's model makes a lot of sense to me too - the only adjustment I would make is the increase the child/OAP/student rate to £5. There are quite a few older folk and students who currently buy season tickets - making it a £1 walkup would completely take that revenue away.'"
Fair point, although I would still keep U16's @ £1.00.
Not sure about students though, given we are tied up with a college, making the package totally a no brainer to miss a game for them seems an obvious marketing ploy to me & then the neckers can drink themselves stoopid in the bar
How about a ST ticket for Students @ £35.00 or £5.00 walk up?
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| Right....
had a chance to think about this more.
Given a number of £300 punters have declared "publicly" to the club that they won't be back next season and the general chaos that has been the stewarding.....how about this for an idea.
ALL tickets at £10.00......or a Season ticket for £100 with an allocated seat. No frills.....first come first served on position of seat.
If the Ian L calculator is in play, then the revenue from every attendee is £9.50. This takes into account the Kids and OAP offers and the "freebie" tickets handed out over the years (I suspect that the Wigan gate last year had 2,500 freebies in it)
This means that we are generating £32,575.50 per game in revenue this season to date. Therfore, we need to keep this revenue the same we need to sell 3,250 ST's and every walk up fan is a bonus thereafter.
So, how do we add 1,500 odd to the ST base figure? Well, I would guess that most walk up fans have attended (will by the last game anyway) 7 games, so £100 is a bargain.
The original idea I was aiming for was to get us to 5,000 A.S.A.P and I still believe that £100 for a ST and £10 for a walk up is the way foreward. This would need to be marketed to "bu993ry" and may well result in a drop in gate revenue in year 1......but as DH has alluded to, gate revenue isn't an issue. We can survive on SLY TV cash alone, so why not do it for 2 seasons and see if we end up nearer 6,000 than 3,000 average at the end of 2011....
Tell you what, if it failed, the RFL would still grant us another licence just for having the balls to try it!
The club would need to double the money spent on stewards, then the allocated section (3 blocks...maybe 4) would be policed correctly. The remaining 6 sections are unallocated and less stewards required. Away fans would be directed to CASH ONLY TURNSTILES at the side of the North and sold North stand seats only.........
Might sound extreme to some fans........BUT.
In the words of Jack the Joker Nicholson..........you can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs.
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| Quote ="Homer"Fair point, although I would still keep U16's @ £1.00.
Not sure about students though, given we are tied up with a college, making the package totally a no brainer to miss a game for them seems an obvious marketing ploy to me & then the neckers can drink themselves stoopid in the bar
How about a ST ticket for Students @ £35.00 or £5.00 walk up?'"
Agree with all of that, but personally I would not be completely adverse to them charging £1 for me to get in
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Agree with all of that, but personally I would not be completely adverse to them charging £1 for me to get in
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Under 16 students. Spongers from what used to be called "Higher Education" should be charged full wack and double for Beer
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| This is my 2 penneth,
LV Stand middle 3 sections Season ticket holders £150 tops. If not sold out tickets for this section not on a match day but in advance £20, Mini season ticket also available £85. Other tickets available £10 walk up on the gate. As stated earlier by others Season ticket area heavily stewarded.
Ethiad stand. All tickets £10 walk up anybody wanting season tickets for this stand allocated AE block £120 heavily stewarded.
North stand Away support tickets in advance to the opposing club £9. Kids £5. Anyside selling this stand out AA/AB/AC Ethiad to them in advance as stated.
South stand Community stand local schools colleges and community groups . Tickets only from the club and heavily stewarded to stop this being abused.
Other ideas Drinks dispensers in the ground got too make money.
Shuttle bus from Twickenham station to the stoop 4 journeys an hour until 2.30 May make fans drink in the ground rather than Twickenham.
Also a soft drinks stall for those who do not want to drink at the game.
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| Quote ="Windy one"Also a soft drinks stall for those who do not want to drink at the game.'"
Good God man............what are you saying
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Well done Windy. Yes Gutters there are some of us who do not mix alcohol and RL - it spoils the flavour.
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| Quote Well done Windy. Yes Gutters there are some of us who do not mix alcohol and RL - it spoils the flavour.'"
You need to check your sexuality if that is the case.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"You need to check your sexuality if that is the case.
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I am very happy with my sexuality, thanks very much!
I get high on RL I don't need to imbibe. I do drink but not at matches. Though sometimes I think the performances would look better if I was blotto! Each to their own, and I think you will find there are a majority who do not drink alcohol at our games. One reason why some people don't come to RL as they associate it with Rugger types drowning themselves in ale.
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Well done Windy. Yes Gutters there are some of us who do not mix alcohol and RL - it spoils the flavour.'"
I don't mix alcohol and RL............DON'T MIX MY ALCOHOL WITH ANYTHING!
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| Quote wire-quin wrote: You need to check your sexuality if that is the case.
I am very happy with my sexuality, thanks very much!
I get high on RL I don't need to imbibe. I do drink but not at matches. Though sometimes I think the performances would look better if I was blotto! Each to their own, and I think you will find there are a majority who do not drink alcohol at our games. One reason why some people don't come to RL as they associate it with Rugger types drowning themselves in ale.'"
Are you more boring in real life-If so wear a flashing light on your head will you.
Crowd failure warning- RL club sells beer preventing people from attending- add that to the sun & skin cancer, east stand, away fans sitting in east stand, people dressing in football kits + Dame Edna kit, away fans with BO-we will get the perfect game experience and master race yet
I wish those that dont drink Alcohol at the games would stay away from the bar as its giving a false impression as its always busy
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| I tend not to mix Rugby and drinking....I tend to spill most of it when I,m grapple tackled....
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