Accepting mixing it up is a sound idea, the earlier you kick the more tackles you make, the more exposure you present and attritionally the more tired you become. We have capitulated against Salford, Leeds etc in the last 20 minutes



Mac's game plan is very simplistic in that it's one out, conservative, no error, build pressure rugby-in simplistic terms boring, hence why he hasn't brought in one creative player of note-he's even managed to take the speed out of LMS, Clubb and J OC

Agree about the tackle count, but the flip side is a decent kick on the third means the big hudds pack have to turn around, backtrack 30/40 meters and by the time they are back and set....2 or 3 tackles have been made by backs on backs. Not saying backs don't tackle hard...but it negates the effectiveness of the battering rams somewhat.

I thin Mac is an hnest and decent bloke, but I agree he is coaching the skill out of players. From what little I have seen on SL TV and the hudds game...it is very 1 dimentional.

Anyone remember Paul Sykes kicking out on the full from the kick off three times in one game (v Bradford?), and misisng kicks to touch from penalties twice?

Rather 15 metres that that.

Last season in the first couple of months we did play some expansive rugby and won plenty of games. For some reason and it was against Hull or Wakey at home he change the way we played and introduced a 5 drives and kick it dead through the in goal. I suspect he was saying if you want to score you must come 80 metres.



What it did to the team was remove the ability to move the ball around and we fell apart. Towards the end of the season when we were desperate, after recognising conservative rugby was failing he reintroduced throwing the ball around this time with gay abandon and it went terribly wrong-The tanker couldn't be turned.



If you look at Saints and Leeds stats they make more handling errors that any other clubs but in negative % terms its not that great because they move the ball a lot and therefore great lots of chances.



Nathan Brown and McGuire at Wigan have tightened both their defences up without major staff changes but what they have also done is kept/improved attacking options. Mac seems to want to build around defence whilst forgetting we need to score-If any team gets 20 points against us they win-simple. We are not comfortable with ball in hand- Just look at the tries we have scored

I think it was a case of playing the conditions that day. It was Hull and I thought he got the tactics spot on that day....problem was, he thought he had found the new masterplan and everything else was forgotten.

As for Sykes kicking out on the full........I would suggest that better coaching would be the answer....not giving up yards.