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| Hurrah, at last everyone else seems to be now agreeing with me. Have said for couple of seasons that NB is not this world class coach some seem to think.
We have been spending upto salary cap for last 2-3 seasons are full of England Knights and England players as well as other nationalities who have played for their countries, world cup winners, state of Origin. Yet he has won nothing, not a bean.
Some saying getting to 1 game away from GF and runner up in CC is great achievement. Load of Tosh, we are still polishing dust at the Giants. Season after season NB has been saying he was going cos wanted to go back home. The man is unprofessional in that respect and has caused disruption in the Giants camp season after season after season. Some may think he has done well but 2nd best isn't doing well and shouldn't be classed as acceptable.
Feel a little sorry for Saints cos don't mind them as a club and think he may cause problems there too? Time will tell
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| To be fair to nathan,how many other coaches have won silverware? I dont think you can judge a coach's ability on his trophy haul, nathan brown is a good coach,he has proved that in how he turned us around,how he got us playing for each other, but sadly it seems he is trying to focus on 2 jobs,yes i want him to win something before he goes,he deserves it but i think he has chosen his next step in life and should fully concentrate on that now and leave us with the respect he has rightly earned
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| McGuire came over to Wigan and won was it 2 or 3 trophies. Spend same as we do so why not judge Brown on what we have won. How else can you judge cos IMO last 5 weeks show we are no further along?
Can't keep defending an attitude like that I saw on Monday. 1 team wanted to win and deservedly did win and the score flattered us. Brown picks the team and to be honest has got it badly wrong over last few months
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| Quote ="Gi4nts"=#FF0000McGuire came over to Wigan and won was it 2 or 3 trophies. Spend same as we do so why not judge Brown on what we have won. How else can you judge cos IMO last 5 weeks show we are no further along?
Can't keep defending an attitude like that I saw on Monday. 1 team wanted to win and deservedly did win and the score flattered us. Brown picks the team and to be honest has got it badly wrong over last few months'"
This is far too simplistic and on this Brown deserves some defence.
We have never had the academy set up or the numbers of fans which Give Wigan a huge advantage. With the franchise requirements on home grown players we will not be able to compete with the top teams until the current crop of 16, 17, 18 year old players start coming through.
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| I think your all deluded you've been punching above your weight in superleague for the past 2 yr's.
You've got some good players (picked by Brown) and bought wisley in the past and it's worked how can you knock him?
Baloo in charge next yr is a gamble so be careful of what you wish for
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| Quote ="Rommel"
Baloo in charge next yr is a gamble so be careful of what you wish for
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Not my first choice replacement - I really hope he can prove me wrong.
As for brown he is not a bad coach he just needs to revert back to basics and stop tinkering.
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| On Anderson, we have a future coach who has bided his time. Has experience with all our players and staff. Has been in a very successful team so knows what it is to be part of a trophy winning team. The main thing is that he has waited for this role when no doubt he could have taken coaching jobs at other teams in the championship and possibly super league. He isn't like Brown who has used our club as a stepping stone to try get some credentials on his cv for a coaching job in aus! He wants to coach us so we should see a much more passionate coach!
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| Its not about Coaching at this level its about man management and PA and NB dont have a great deal.
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| Quote ="adamhuddsgiant"On Anderson, we have a future coach who has bided his time. Has experience with all our players and staff. Has been in a very successful team so knows what it is to be part of a trophy winning team. The main thing is that he has waited for this role when no doubt he could have taken coaching jobs at other teams in the championship and possibly super league. He isn't like Brown who has used our club as a stepping stone to try get some credentials on his cv for a coaching job in aus! He wants to coach us so we should see a much more passionate coach!'"
Agree 100% at least he wants to be at the Giants and doesn't have an eye elsewhere every season.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Its not about Coaching at this level its about man management and PA and NB dont have a great deal.'"
Maybe an eclectic mix of both coaching and man management? The players used to love Schofield because he got pÃssed out of his brains with them all the time!
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Its not about Coaching at this level its about man management and PA and NB dont have a great deal.'"
purtill may help in this department? if he joins?
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| Quote ="Run leroy , run !"Can I vote again please ? after each game?
The blip is flat lining - and I don't want another set of pre-written , insincere platitudes in tomorrows examiner.'"
Well , what's changed ?
It's not just the defeats - its the manner of them really.
Please go Nathan- its all looking a bit pathetic really now.
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| Ps can I have a £ for each time I read the phrase "chance to turn around our season" in the examiner this week from Nathan.
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| And 50 p for "...we need to re-focus again, and work hard in training..."
And 25 p for "...it's a one off cup game, so league form goes out of the window..."(here's hoping Nathan)
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| what do people think will be achieved if nb goes now, nowt imo, still maintain baloo attitude to the players for next year is a major reason in our decline, man management is non existant, signings for next year ferres and mullally yes thats really going to improve us, hope im wrong but bottom 4 beckons next year, i think nb has taken a average bunch of players as far as they can go, wholesale changes are needed for me and not just young fringe players.
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| We as Bulls fans are sorry to see you so dispirited with results that frankly shouldn't be happening to such a good side as you have become.
We can only comment that when we were in a similar position with our coach, the result seems to be along the self same lines. it is always difficult to give full attention to a job, when you are planning to move on.
Keep faith because we know you have the players to make a dramatic comeback...but after we've played you!
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| Quote ="Run leroy , run !"And 50 p for "...we need to re-focus again, and work hard in training..."
And 25 p for "...it's a one off cup game, so league form goes out of the window..."(here's hoping Nathan)'"
Think youre blaming the wrong people RLR
Its down to the Examiner!!Hear that having cut down on the number of type-setters they leave it like the previous week cos of tight deadlines !
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| Quote ="goodie"what do people think will be achieved if nb goes now, nowt imo, still maintain baloo attitude to the players for next year is a major reason in our decline, man management is non existant, signings for next year ferres and mullally yes thats really going to improve us, hope im wrong but bottom 4 beckons next year, i think nb has taken a average bunch of players as far as they can go, wholesale changes are needed for me and not just young fringe players.'"
With Nathan Brown going and Kevin Brown going as well as Gilly there are 3 who may have motivation issues.
If the rumours are true that:
Grix has been told he can go
Mason and Robbo were offered to Cas
Robbo was told that he could go to Widnes and have talks with them
then that is another 3 who are unlikely to be happy.
If this is the case then not only NB has been responsible for this mess but also Baloo.
I also think that Thewlis should have ben aware of this.
I can understand Baloo wanting to make his own team but he seems to be trying to do it in one season. The realities of contracts and the SC however means that you have to do it over 1 or 2 seasons.
The whole thing is like a slow moving disaster movie
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Its not about Coaching at this level its about man management and PA and NB dont have a great deal.'"
Been saying this about brown for the past 2 years. The way he deals with people is shocking. But because players tow the party line that he is ace, people believe it. Great coach but should never be the main man at a club. Not had much feedback about PA, but I'd say mick potter was the obvious way to go
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| Let Nathan Brown go now and drop any player who wants to or is leaving the club. I'd rather watch a team of 18 year olds who give 100% and put their bodies on the line rather than some free loaders just going through the motions with one eye on next season playing for another club..
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| Quote ="goodie"what do people think will be achieved if nb goes now, nowt imo, still maintain baloo attitude to the players for next year is a major reason in our decline, man management is non existant, signings for next year ferres and mullally yes thats really going to improve us, hope im wrong but bottom 4 beckons next year, i think nb has taken a average bunch of players as far as they can go, wholesale changes are needed for me and not just young fringe players.'"
I believe that NB going now would let PA get the team to play the way he wants it to play. This will give us an excellent chance to start next year the way we started this year and hopefully maintain it!
Lets face it this year has pretty much finished for us. Yes we may get lucky next week but I really doubt it as the players confidence must be shot to pieces.
We can build a team spirit for next year and we need to start now. NB has been a good coach but is now lacking the tactical and man management skills to move us forward
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| Quote ="pep1505"I believe that NB going now would let PA get the team to play the way he wants it to play. '"
Can't be doing that, he would play some props, everyone knows 4 hookers is the way to go!!!
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| Silly me forgot that simple rule
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