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| Quote ="Acatinbullland"Would i be correct the delay may be due to and alternative bid that has arrived at belle vue (hearwell) from an other side'"
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| After reading this and other threads on this subject for a week now it is somewhat baffling as to why there is still no concrete news on this deal. It would now seem that the Dragons have thrown their hat into the ring and want Brough.
Do we really want him or indeed need him? I would say not neccesarily given the current results - we are more than holding our own in the comp and whilst there is no doubt that Brough is a talent who would improve the team would the negatives outweigh the positives on this one?.
The bottom line to me (from reading all the conjecture) is that Wakefield want the best price for the player and deal for the club which is fair enough however it seems there is no time limit on when the deal will actually be concluded which just seems ridiculous. There just seems to be an impase since this was announced or surfaced last Sunday.
It is actually getting boring now and if I was managing this from Fartowns point of view I would certainly put some time frames on this as it seems the Wakefield club are holding us to ransom??.
Why would Brough want to join Catalan anyway they are hardly uprooting any tree's right now but I dont know his current motivation ie money or whatever?..
The whole situation is turning into a farce.
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| He has top drawer rugby skills.
However, his alleged disruptiveness and the way Grix appears to be stepping up to the mark kicking-wise, I think I'd be tempted to tell Wakey to stuff it.
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| Quote ="SHIPLEYGIANT"After reading this and other threads on this subject for a week now it is somewhat baffling as to why there is still no concrete news on this deal. It would now seem that the Dragons have thrown their hat into the ring and want Brough.
Do we really want him or indeed need him? I would say not neccesarily given the current results - we are more than holding our own in the comp and whilst there is no doubt that Brough is a talent who would improve the team would the negatives outweigh the positives on this one?.
The bottom line to me (from reading all the conjecture) is that Wakefield want the best price for the player and deal for the club which is fair enough however it seems there is no time limit on when the deal will actually be concluded which just seems ridiculous. There just seems to be an impase since this was announced or surfaced last Sunday.
It is actually getting boring now and if I was managing this from Fartowns point of view I would certainly put some time frames on this as it seems the Wakefield club are holding us to ransom??.
Why would Brough want to join Catalan anyway they are hardly uprooting any tree's right now but I dont know his current motivation ie money or whatever?..
The whole situation is turning into a farce.'"
Wakefield want the best return on their asset. They'll be keen to push a deal through too as Brough didn't play last week which suggests to the outsider that they want to keep him uninjured as he is definitely off.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"He has top drawer rugby skills.
However, his alleged disruptiveness and the way Grix appears to be stepping up to the mark kicking-wise, I think I'd be tempted to tell Wakey to stuff it.'"
Tell Wakey to stuff what?? You approaced us!
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| i suppose we have to trust nathan brown on this one, if he feels he can use brough to help our team , who are we to argue
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| If I were Giants I would walk away now as we will not be held to ransom. Even if Catalans put a bid in for him ateotd Danny has to agree terms with them. If he is not happy or does not think it's for him he will be free agent end of this season. Then any SL team get him for nothing leaving wakefield egg on their face.
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| I trust NB 200% percent and there is no doubting his talent as a player however I suspect Wakefield are wanting an auction. To save credibility would you say ok - sign by x date or the deals off?.
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| Quote ="COCKNEY GIANT"If I were Giants I would walk away now as we will not be held to ransom. Even if Catalans put a bid in for him ateotd Danny has to agree terms with them. If he is not happy or does not think it's for him he will be free agent end of this season. Then any SL team get him for nothing leaving wakefield egg on their face.'"
Again, how?? hudds approached us! We have planned the season with Brough as our starting 7! Many many players play full seasons (and play well) knowing they are leaving at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Again, how?? hudds approached us! We have planned the season with Brough as our starting 7! Many many players play full seasons (and play well) knowing they are leaving at the end of the year.'"
Maybe the Giants did initially contact Wakey for Brough's services. But when the Wakey board keep agreeing to a deal and then giving backword, I could understand us saying stuff it. We don't need to deal with amateurs.
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| So what if the Giants approached Wakefield? That isnt the point.
They either want to cash in or they don't - if they dont then we should all move on and if they do then fair enough. What is the advantage of going public and then all quiet for a week or so - it must be to get any other interested parties involved in a bidding war!,. Thats their parogative but as I have said should the Giants just say look we've made an offer and theres a deadline. That way we wont be held to ransom.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Maybe the Giants did initially contact Wakey for Brough's services. But when the Wakey board keep agreeing to a deal and then giving backword, I could understand us saying stuff it. We don't need to deal with amateurs.'"
Ponner, on a previous thread you admitted your info was one sided.....yet you still claim to know the full details.....must be great being in your head!!!
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| Quote ="SHIPLEYGIANT"So what if the Giants approached Wakefield? That isnt the point.
They either want to cash in or they don't - if they dont then we should all move on and if they do then fair enough. What is the advantage of going public and then all quiet for a week or so - it must be to get any other interested parties involved in a bidding war!,. Thats their parogative but as I have said should the Giants just say look we've made an offer and theres a deadline. That way we wont be held to ransom.'"
No doubt wakey do want to cash in, but the deal has to suit all parties.....how do you know that wakey are involved in a bidding war?? Is it not possible that it is actually Brough and his agent that are pushing this (especially when you consider all the money trouble rumours etc)?
But l do agree with you that an end to this must come soon.....it does not benefit either club to drag it out for much longer.
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| Quote ="SHIPLEYGIANT"So what if the Giants approached Wakefield? That isnt the point.
They either want to cash in or they don't - if they dont then we should all move on and if they do then fair enough. What is the advantage of going public and then all quiet for a week or so - it must be to get any other interested parties involved in a bidding war!,. Thats their parogative but as I have said should the Giants just say look we've made an offer and theres a deadline. That way we wont be held to ransom.'"
I agree - line in the sand. We have our half backs in situ, I'd be happier of we didn't rock the boat. We have a beig game this week and need them to be concentrating on beating Saints not wondering whether they will be playing or not.
Wakefield won't want protracted negotiations as they have a valuable asset sat in the stands.
It appears that in a a fortnight Danny Brough WILL be at the Galpharm. Whether he is playing for the home or away team or watching in the stands is yet to be decided!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Ponner, on a previous thread you admitted your info was one sided.....yet you still claim to know the full details.....must be great being in your head!!!'"
Knowing people with feet in both camps helps
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| Quote ="PONNER"Knowing people with feet in both camps helps
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Yet you said your info was only one sided!!! make your mind up!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Yet you said your info was only one sided!!! make your mind up!'"
Yep the Wakey source is one sided and the Giants source is one sided. Both point towards an inadequate set up for a SL team.
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| Any chance of getting back on topic?
Express says this morning that DK can not agree terms with wakefield but they will have a final shot atit today, Dont have much time for brough but as a player he is very talented, and with what he has said in the papers today seems as in the dark as the rest of us, maybe we should put this one to bed untill something is announced.
not changing the subject but did anyone see corri last week whats jack and vera up to now?
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Again, how?? '"
Danny has turned down a improved offer from Wakefield. Giants have approached Wakey and are trying to negotiate a deal IE player(s) or even cash but I'm not privy to that info but if you have refused all offers and he goes for nothing to any SL club you lot will look stupid when you had a chance to get something in return.
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| Quote ="COCKNEY GIANT"Danny has turned down a improved offer from Wakefield. Giants have approached Wakey and are trying to negotiate a deal IE player(s) or even cash but I'm not privy to that info but if you have refused all offers and he goes for nothing to any SL club you lot will look stupid when you had a chance to get something in return.'"
I don't think Wakefield can lose out regardless of what happens. We picked him up for nothing, and granted wanted to extend his contract but it's been expected that he will leave for nothing at the end of the season to Wigan/Hull KR/Catalans/St Helens/Huddersfield delete as appropriate.
It seems some clubs are rather keen and want to force a deal through to ensure they don't get into a bidding war which is rather clever. But Wakefield are onto Hudds thinking and have basically said make us a deal we can't refuse or we'll let him go for nothing and you can compete with the other SL clubs which will result more than likely in paying Brough more to ensure his signature.
Strangely enough Wakefield who should be in the weakest position right now are actually probably in the strongest mainly due to the fact they've know DB's intentions to move on come the end of his contract and have resigned themselves to him moving on.
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| Quote ="yully"Any chance of getting back on topic?
Express says this morning that DK can not agree terms with wakefield but they will have a final shot atit today, Dont have much time for brough but as a player he is very talented, and with what he has said in the papers today seems as in the dark as the rest of us, maybe we should put this one to bed untill something is announced.
not changing the subject but did anyone see corri last week whats jack and vera up to now?'"
Vera died over 12 months ago.
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| Where do you people get these crack head ideas from?
DB really isnt a player worth a bidding war, and given the fact that Wakey will now have to pay for cookes bar bill they need to free some wages up, that alone would make it worth it for them to let DB go, whoever its to.
In case you hadnt noticed, we seem to be doing ok without him at the moment too.
And if Les Cats have been linked to him, they are welcome to him.
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| Quote ="Code13"Where do you people get these crack head ideas from?
DB really isnt a player worth a bidding war, and given the fact that Wakey will now have to pay for cookes bar bill they need to free some wages up, that alone would make it worth it for them to let DB go, whoever its to.
In case you hadnt noticed, we seem to be doing ok without him at the moment too.
And if Les Cats have been linked to him, they are welcome to him.'"
I don't think you need him however it's fairly obviously Nathan Brown seems to think you do in some capacity. I'd be happy for Brough to stay at Wakefield and i'm sure you'd be happy for DK to stop at the Giants
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| Perhaps, but anything beyond that is speculation, something so many posters on this thread seem to be oblivous to.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"Vera died over 12 months ago.'"
Awwww! she dint did she?? could have broke it a little gentler Ivor.
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