What's all this 'They' business ??

Are we not all fans of the same club ? are we not all wanting to see this club be successful ?
Those are comments i'd expect from a fan of a rival team or a troll not one of our own.

We all want the same thing for this club....some have more patience and endurance and are prepared to trust the club, some want it now - obviously you are one of the latter.
Don't get me wrong i would love the club to break world record fees to bring the best half-back/prop/full back etc to this club and win everything there is to win in the next year but the reality is it isn't going to happen.
It could turn around and we may go the rest of the year unbeaten, we don't know but we will only find out if we stick with it....moaning on forums and criticising long term fans for being eternal optimists will not make the club better or worse.

No but it clearly makes them feel better.
Many of the same folk moaning now are the same ones moaning we don't give the kids a chance- well we have given the kids a chance- now they are moaning we didn't recruit


I think Anderson's days are numbered if after a few weeks of a settled side we are still without a win. But I'm willing to give him chance with the same spine of a team for a few weeks first. - that's possible if we don't get hit with more injuries.

I don't doubt one minute that Paul's job is in doubt, he is the head coach and he will get the chop long before any of the underperforming players, harsh but that's how the game goes.

I don't know what more he can actually do without going onto the pitch and making the tackles, passing the ball, making the players run with it and not drop it.

I feel for him he's a damn good coach but the fans want instant results/better performances and trophies to cheer, me included, obviously circumstances this year mean he hasn't got the squad he hoped he would have - and that is now showing.

The players need to step up though as they are the ones underperforming, again in not ideal situations as thingas that happened threw a spanner in the works.

The bottom line is we are bottom of the table, playing poorly and with a large number of fans getting restless again (obviously this time last year we'd ridden the early season storm out and all was rosy again it's just taking a bit longer this year).

I won't call for Paul's sacking but if we fail to win in the next couple i cannot see him staying much longer, we lost enough fans over the Nathan Brown saga, we can't afford to lose anymore now !!

I have been very consistent . I was alwayas arguing for changing the team. Last season every week i would have rotated the key props so that they missed one week in four Eorl, Mullally, Koppy and Huby. Then i would have played one of the youngsters to give them experience.

You and others on here kept on saying dont change a winning team. My view was do change a winning team give experience and rest the main strike players so that they had some energy at the end of the season.

That is how you blood youngsters slowly in a settled team.

Not what we have now where we have to play loads of them who are not ready.

It was the same with the backs and the hookers. I constantly suggested playing them on a regular basis for easier games so that the main players were ready for the big games.

It is you are inconsistent yet even now you dont seem to address the big issue of who is responsible for the fact that this squad was a disaster waiting to happen.

Before the season started i said this squad was not good enough and that was before the Robbo and ferres debacles.

But we did change the team, we did have players like Johnson playing, and leeming, and Simpson.....
Any more and we would have been in s position like the one we find ourselves in now.

Ok DAZ we are all fans of the club, but some of us can see that changes are needed while there is still time.
You want to talk about reality, well reality is the middle 8 and a fight to stay in S league, as opposed to your idea. " quote" It could turn around and we may go the rest of the year unbeaten but we will only know if we stick with it " unquote" By that way of reckoning we could also go the rest of the year without another win at all and be down to a couple of thousand fans, would you still be saying " I won't call for Paul to go ".

The one sure thing is that we could not get any worse than we are at present with a change of coach, If you can not see that our players have gone backwards , you are either blind or know nothing about League at all, It's far more likely that you are blinded by your unflinching loyalty to everything Giants, altough you may actually think our players have improved under Mr Anderson.

Anyway I have had my say on it, I am not going to change your mind about anything and if you want to keep paying out your hard earned indefinitely to watch Sh*** that's your business, but you wont get the public of Huddersfield to do the same with the present set up, and it's not because they are tight fisted miserable B*******s, it's because they know when they are watching S***** from a half decent squad.

I just felt we were on the cusp of greatness, if a few changes ,and right decisions were made ,but those decisions weren't made unfortunately ,and now we seem to be at the bottom looking up agen instead of the top looking down . No its not the end of the season yet and I truly do think we will turn things around , I'm hoping now for around 6th 7th. But we all have to admit it's a little frustrating to slip so quickly from where we were a few years back to this . At the end of the day we are fans and are passionate about our club and all have different opinions, I for one will support them through thick and thin always. Anyway long live the GIANTS and bring on Salford!

Jo, I've watched this club through its worst ever times and paid my hard earned for more years than most of our squad have been alive ...and believe me these are still good times compared ...and of course I'll continue to go and pay my hard earned its what I do, I don't just go to the games to see them win its the whole social aspect of the day spent with my good friends ...I love this club and will still go to every game even if we're in league 1.
Obviously I would like us to be challenging for the world club challenge but I cannot alone change what happens so I go along full of hope every game every year.

I know some don't that's their choice but a couple of bad seasons won't stop me going !!

We are all entitled to an opinion, we won't always disagree but to split the fan base like you have is pathetic.
We all want the same thing, we just have differing opinions to each other, but to suggest that some section of our support is against the other is ridiculous
If you don't like what's happening at the club, speak to the club? raise your concerns? or if you don't like watching us or want to support us then don't, you aren't been forced to do it.
I appreciate your opinions and your concerns but constantly moaning about it isn't going to change things, i know you see me as "one of them" but i just get fed up off seeing all the negative rubbish, yes we are bottom, yes we've been poor, yes, our crowds are crap, yes we play rubbish stuff, yes the weather is rubbish!

I appreciate what you are saying Daz, and you are right . Your support of your club does you credit, I don't understand it but so be it, I guess the problem is we come from different League supporting backgrounds, I have said before ,I grew up watching the best around, you grew up watching what you did, so I suppose that will account for our different views.
That said I shall be there again today hoping for a good effort, We should be able to put out a half decent team, We don't usually do well against Salford at home, but now is as good a time as any to start to put things right.

So basically what you post comes under the " everyone has the right to their opinion category " What I post comes under the " what you are quite happy to call negative rubbish" Yet I am the one splitting the fan base.
Has it never occurred to you meast that other people might be just as fed up of hearing , all the maybe's and endless excuses that you trot out on here. Have I ever called any of your posts fanciful over optimistic rubbish, No I have often questioned your opinions, and for answers I get Maybe this ,Maybe that
As usual because I don't agree with you , I am constantly moaning, I think I am being realistic, but as far as you are concerned Its negative rubbish. and I get the " if you don't want to support us don't stuff" What comes next ? why do you come on the Forum, you aren't being forced.
For your information I have contacted the club on occasions , they haven't bothered to respond.

The weather could be worse, all the others I agree with.

Reading through all this it's clear we all want the same thing, just there are differing opinions as to the way forward as is always the case, but ultimately we must get behind the team on the field together, there are few enough as it is! Comparing the team with those of years ago, good or bad, serves no purpose...we have what we have now.
I believe the big thing for PA at the moment is man management...he has a small squad and needs to manage each individual appropriately to get the best out of them....they should all know the structures and systems it's making sure the application is there.
It is up to him as coach to get the discipline sorted...he isn't on the pitch but he should be able to instill it into the players, it's part of his job!
I have often been baffled by his interchanges. (Not just this season) and I think it's true that we have been poor to watch, particularly last season. Given that, I will be happy to see us grind out a couple of much needed wins this week!
I understand the "give him time" argument, but how far do you go? I think if today and Castleford result in defeats we have to look at a change then...games are ticking by and we need to pick some points up.
On the recruitment front, I'm not sure how much say he has...I have no knowledge of how it works within the club but have an impression that Thewliss is the main driver there...May be wrong it's just an impression I have.
Like the rest I am very frustrated and disappointed this year but my view is that I support the team and that continues through good and bad.

5 half back pairings, 5 fullbacks, (6 after today) 3 players playing 3 positions, 3 players playing in 2 positions.
A 20 year old having played fullback, 6,7 and centre. Debuts galore.
That's not counting the in game changes when people have gone off injured.

And just TWO players playing in their same position all year.


But it's the coaches fault......

Another loss, 2 pts thrown away and the shambles just rolls on and on. Bottom 2 and a possible million pound game await us unless something changes very,very soon. Too many mediocre players at the club and not enough class in the team even when at full strengh to pull us through. Time for a good shake up of both mediocre/underperforming players and coaching staff. Heads need to roll in order for us to move on.

Defenatly time for him to go now where going nowhere with him in charge

That is an argument I agree, but does it account for the dross that we watched for much of last year. We are sadly short of basic skills jools

pressure is mounting but ken davy never makes rash decisions and doesnt often sack coaches so those wanting anderson to be sacked will have a good wait

Yup the coach who is moving players round left right and centre, dropping players who have played well with no explanations.

Yet again he doesnt fail to deliver, we sign Brierley a halfback for last 4 years and he's played twice for us, both times in different positions, today fullback where he has never played before, he drops a young kid who should be our main fullback by now with 40 odd games under his belt had Anderson not dropped him on the back of 3 very very good performances to accomodate one of our recognised names, so yup sorry dont agree with your play em they are a well known name strategy but I do blame the coach, the same one who has brought these problems on himself by dropping players who were performing!!!! Today was absolute garbage against a team losing their last 4 of 5 games following on from Catalan and Wakefield which were also garbage, If we were due to play Bradford, Leigh, Halifax, Batley or London next week to survive I would be very very worried. We dont look like a team end of

Who has he dropped who has played better? He's moving players because we've started the season with two experienced players down unexpectedly and a plethora of injuries!

Have you considered joining the Supporters association ? we have regular meetings with the club and they do listen and take on board what the fans are saying, we like to think we are a sounding board for the fans and if you have any ideas/thoughts etc you would be most welcome to join us in getting them through if you want the club to listen and respond etc.

Experienced players or players who will give 110% for the club, know which i prefer

How far back do you want to go? Dropped Leeming and Connor in cup last year to bring Robbo and Ferres back in after injury, that ended well didnt it!!!! Did same to bring Ferres back vs Widnes away, again went well!!

Dropped Simpson last season after 3 great games to bring Grix back after injury, then trows Simpson in against Wakey when we under massive pressure, he had a mare but did we stick with him, did we bollox, if his confidence wasn't shot before it will be now.

Dropped Sam Wood after Wigan game (one of our better players on the day) to bring yet another star back into the side.

Does he learn does he knackers

Will eventually realise games aren't won on paper by having star names listed. We are bottom of league and deservedly so, only 1 man is responsible for moving players round every position trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Brierley is a 7 play him there, Simpson is a fullback play him there, Sam Wood is a centre play him there, Eorls game is to offload with 3 men tackling him, Huby's game is to offload, allow em to do it ffs not rocket science is it?

I don't buy the injury situation as an excuse. We started the season 4 senior players down (5 after ferres) on the year before, we were obviously light... unless Anderson is not involved in recruitment, then he's failed to forsee what we all could.

Anderson made a big deal of starting the season with a small squad but has overlooked the fact that should injury occur then he'd have to bring the youngsters in who are Not ready.....

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

So Sam wood and Simpson. So you would drop one youngster (comnor) for another (wood) and Simpson needed dropping after those shocking schoolboy errors! he needs to drop Murphy too on this years showing. dont play brierley at 7 - play him where he's been brought in to play at 1. He did a better job than Simpson! Never mind - grix will be back soon that will please you! Or hang on are you advocating changing the team around agai. For next week.......

See what you want to see as you always do Jools.

Brought in Brierley, played scrum half for 4 years scoring bucket loads of points but he's gonna play fullback for us.

Novel idea maybe we should sign Billy Slater to play prop or Gallen for the wing? Makes sense

Maybe in your world Anderson is above criticism cos we are 8/8 wins playing champagne rugby and sitting pretty at top of the league.

In the real world we have 2 points from 16 gained vs a very very poor Hull KR team.

Lost against Wakefield, Salford, Widnes, Catalans, Wigan, Leeds and St Helens