Disappointing as at 12-4 we we're in total control of the game but once again our heads went down too quickly after an error and that was it - game over, we stopped tackling, organising, communicating.

Another thing Mamo was awful, Grix got killed on here for better performances than than !!!.

Anyway it's 1 game, nothing is decided, i won't be making rash predictions anbd making ludicrous calls after 1 game.

There's work to do but we knew that anyway.

Hopefully Seb is alright for Thursday.

This is obviously why over 300 people did not renew their season tickets after 1 match ! Basic simple mistakes, schoolboy errors, no discipline, as soon as they go behind their heads drop. How did management expect any improvement from last season without new talent brought into the squad. Just cannot see any hope for the future. Too many championship players at best in our Super League Squad. Now its up to the players and management to prove me wrong.

Some realism is required. It was clearly a disappointing result but we had a huge gulf to close on Hull based on last season. Let's at least wait until we've played twice & had a game at home before too many judgements are made.

The realism is simple and obvious and not just from last night but for a while and the needs are rather simple

1. Lack an inspiring captain like a Sinfield or leader in the Luke O’Donnell mode

2. A defensive line that holds it shape

3. A killer instinct when we are on top

4. Bottle to admit players aren’t good enough and move them on Smith for example

5. A coach that can do a half time motivational piece cos last nights was obviously a doozy

6. Symonds has to play if not fit he should retire due to injury to claim the insurance and come off the salary cap so we can replace him

7 Don’t extend DB’s contract unfortunately a replacement is very difficult as a marquee Aussie is the best current offering

8. Get our strongest team on the field at least twice this season

We won’t go down but the JS has to be a fortress if we are to improve on last year or do anything in the cup or the 8th or 9th the press predict is just about right

Such a positive outlook, bet you've been dying for the new season to start

It does make me chuckle to read the moaning about moaning.
How about you post the positives to remind everyone!

The positives are it's only a game, it's a sport, a chance to meet up with mates and have a laugh at the end of a week, it's not that important where folk need to almost cry themselves to sleep......if we lose we lose if we win, well we will have an extra beer to celebrate.

That's fair enough Daz, The Giants are obviously a big part of your social life, But you will find very few people who feel the same, They are a very minor part of a lot of peoples life, But we are all what we are, To me your attitude reflects that of the club, complete lack of ambition which everyone on this site knows deep down, seeing a win as some kind of bonus.
It's one of the reasons season tickets never increase, the other being a complete lack of style in their play, other than the odd game here and there. I Fear we will be one of the teams making up the numbers again, Not because of one game but because we don't have a serious S league squad, or we don't have anyone at the club who knows how to get them earning their money.

I’m not sure that’s going to convince a lot of folk-not everyone is there for the beer- nothing positive from the actual game then

As I have since the end of the last one. However I consider my post realistic after watching us ship 34 points in 28 minutes after pretty much having Hull on the rack.

In an odd way it wouldn’t have been as bad if Hull had got to 38-0 and we’d have got a couple of late consolation tries it’s the fact that the diagonal runs around the play the ball were working Hull were struggling with our pack and we started throwing the ball wide and coughing it up early in the tackle count why not stick to what had got us to 12-4 in the first place.

I would be satisfied with Stones promise of gradual improvement but last night wasn’t it just flatter to deceive and then give up when it got a bit tough.

If I was to really moan rather than be realistic it would be as follows

Walne lightweight

Smith not superleague standard

Macintosh abysmal both last night and against Dewsbury looked like a rabbit in the headlights the sight of Robbo, oh for him on the field, telling him what he should be doing after being out of position again says it all.

Brough past it needs to concentrate on his own game

Rankin not a stand off

Ormsby gone thank goodness

Leeming/ta’ai/ Mamo/Turner all under done our pre season doesn’t look to have worked

Symonds are we going to pay a player who isn’t playing

Stone makes the right noises but are we actually improving ?? Not anywhere I can see it looks like three years of treading water.

So there you are Giant Daz a dose of ultra realism I hope I’m wrong and we turn it around quick but I don’t see a burning drive anywhere that convinces me we will so I will support as I have done for many years sadly with no great expectation.

some of last nights results put ours in perspective abit !

at least we led at half time

obv looking for that 80 mins performance against warrington now

A post that some sums the attitude of the club unfortunately.

Who cares if we win or lose, who cares if we provide entertainment or value for money.

This post could have been written by the chief exec.

Still Daz and Thewlis will be able to turn around and blame the fans and the people if Huddersfield when it all falls apart

It's not just one game into the season that is so disappointing, it's just one big train crash after another over a few seasons! While Stone & Thewlis are at the helm, it's just going to be one defeat after another. No wonder The Huddersfield Examiner has lost interest as most of the public of Huddersfield have.

It’s not the losing that’s a problem. In the bad old days when we finished bottom year after year we were often losing by many points every week- but the lads had a dig. No one would ever have had a go at the likes of Reilly and Roarty. There just seems to be a lack of cameraderie In Our side- a lack of willingness to work FOR each other rather than just alongside each other. A coach can’t do anything about a playing squad he inherits in terms of ability- but he must be able to inspire his side and stone hasn’t improved that aspect. When things don’t go our way they all blame each other (especially brough) and start playing as individuals rather than as a team. I believe We have a sports psychologist on our board so why isn’t this problem going away???

Been paying Karl Morris 12k a year for last few years too but that hasn't yielded anything either

Let's face it the Huddersfield public lost interest about 40 odd years ago.

Sadly this is true. When Alex Murphy arrived we turned around the playing fortunes of the club very quickly, but those 20 dire years (70's and 80's) have left a much deeper impact with the fanbase. It seems that the missing generation of fans continues to haunt us today, whereas clubs like Hull KR and even Leigh take defeat and disappointment on the chin and come back the stronger our fanbase is as fickle as the winter sun. We have provided a winning team, (almost) silverware and top international players, and yet the people of Huddersfield simply will not turn up in the numbers we deserve.

I would love it to be different as i have watched and loved my team for some 25 years now, but the reality is the town doesn't want it, Mr Davey has thrown everything he can at it, and continues to give away season tickets at lower than market value for a good number of years in the hope of igniting the sport.. Maybe if we'd won at wembley.. but i don't think anything is good enough for the people of Huddersfield to support our great team.

which super league clubs are improving their crowds in thousands??? dont see leeds the champs having sell out crowds or wigan

its rugby league in general im afraid

maybe the new rfl post that has come up will help bring bigger crowds,, talk of matchroom getting involved

Some interesting stats from last Thursdays game. Mamo made 14 tackles- that’s a lot for your fullback. Rankin made 30- that’s again a lot for a half. Compare that with 3 from Shaul, 8 from Sneyd and 14 from kelly. Our players gave away 10 penalties
Our top metre maker was Murphy.
Clough made 9 metres in 6 carries, Smith 11.5 in 8 carries, ikahihifo only 6.3 per carry in 11 carries but made 5 tackle busts. Oli roberts was our top tackler with 35.
Lots of positives - but some lessons to be taken- that can easily be put right!

Ken Davy really hasn’t thrown everything at it.

A large proportion of people in the town just don’t know the club even exists. If they do know it exists, they don’t know what it’s about. And if they do know what it’s about, it won’t be about attractive things.

And who can blame them? It’s nigh on impossible to find out stuff about the club. There’s little presence in the town, and what there is is old and out of date. There’s nothing in the “Giants” branding (such as it is) to connect the club to the town in any meaningful way.

The only significant marketing campaign I can recall was “The Giants Revolution” from about ten years back. As a concept, it had no connection with the club or the town but at least it was *something*. It was followed up with nothing at all really. Just the odd poster of Eorl Crabtree. Some of those Giants Revolution posters are still up - which tells you a lot about how much energy they’ve put into the problem over the years.

What do people in this town value? How does the club link into that? How do the club get people to participate actively, not just think of it as a cheap one off day out with the kids? How are the club planning to build a culture around this? Does the club have any concept of what being a supporter is about? Or could be about?

The actual identity of the club itself is weak, vague and not aligned with how proudly people in Huddersfield think about Huddersfield. There’s 154 proud years of history representing this town, and the club can’t even get its own founding date right on the bloody badge and barely has the word Huddersfield anywhere on its brand (look at the website).

Ask yourself - honestly - what words people who aren’t fans think of when you think of the brand “Huddersfield Giants”. I bet it would be stuff like “don’t know”, “losers”, “odd”, “nothing”, “weak”, “bottlers”, “confusing” and very, very short on words like “proud”, “community”, “representing the town”, “strong”, “exciting”, “confident”


So let’s not even start down the road of saying that KD has thrown everything at it. He’s sure thrown a lot of money at it, but most of that has been ed up a wall.

It is rugby league in general. Because the RFL and most of the clubs haven’t got a clue what they’re doing!

They’re going to tinker with the league structure again this year because - surprise, surprise - the last league restructure made no bloody difference.

Very, very few people in the game - if any - have even a glimpse of understanding of how to develop it.

no surprise murphy was top metre maker, runs the ball back strong which some people just seem to ignore.

we made too many errors in the second half

roberts made to do too much tackling just takes away his attack, needs to be coming off the bench, maybe when symonds is back he can do that

glad you agree its rugby league in general and not just the giants.

Yes, but the Giants are on the extreme end of the incompetency scale.

If there is an SL restructure and it moves to a closed shop, then the Giants will be amongst the favourites for the chop.

And rightly so. It pains me to say it, but they bring very little to the competition at the moment. If there is a compelling case to reduce the numbers in the top flight, or replace a heartland club with a club from elsewhere, surely we’d be at the top of the list for the heave-ho

The club had its chance, had the capital to spend, but has blown it IMO

I think the future for us is back to the mid nineties as a middling fish in the small pool of the lower leagues. Away trips to Dewsbury instead of Perpignan. Revive that old rivalry with Keighley maybe.

you could put salford, widnes and wakefield as faves for a chop ahead of us if what you say was to happen. salford and widnes have less crowds than us and wakefield dont even meet super league standard on the ground.