Deary me indeed,what a horrible lot they truly are.

Complete cock up by the RFL, ATEOTD The Bulls spent money they didn't have chasing the dream, they enjoyed the success and trophies but now is the time to pay the price, they should have been made to sell players in order to pay off their debts (let's not forget the creditors in this!!!)

If its out like the Glasgow Rangers situation the players have the option to accept the transfer of contract or can seek employment elsewhere.

Hope we sign Gale too if Kopczak is coming to the Giants, if the Bulls don't pay off their debts then should be Halifax or Fev in SL next season!!!

Nothing to do with the Giants. Between Kopczak, his agent and the administrator.

If a member of staff does not wish to be TUPEd then they have the legal opportunity not to accept it and they in effect resign for the date of the TUPE.

We lost Martin Gleeson for nowt when we got relegated.

No sympathy for Bradford whatsoever.

I can understand Bulls fans frustration at the situation they are in, but could someone tell me where it says Huddersfield Giants have definitly signed Kopczak. Or how they know that Giants voted against them staying in SL. I would have thought that such a vote would have been secret. There appears to be a lot of vilification of the Giants. It may be warrented but I would like to see the proof of their statements. I read most of the news reports concerning Giant but haven't seen either of these reported other than on Bulls forum.

I'd have voted Budfud Bulls out of the SL no problem.

Their attitude towards us over these last few weeks should live in the memory of all Fartown fans forever.

agreed sheepridge! those same fans were made to eat their words a few weeks ago when they didnt have the facts. Here they are with another go,why the hatred towards us? - because that is what it is-pure and simple- it isnt sporting rivalry. If anything it should be the other way round-they have given us more reasons to hate them ver the years!

Irrelevant because at this moment Bradford are still a SL club.

And what Bradford got done for regarding Harris was inducing him to break a contract. Which, it may yet be argued, Huddersfield might have done with Kopczak.

Kopczak has not broken a contract. has he?

Nope his contract was with the previous regime, complete new club now
As at as I am aware, otherwise all these creditors will be getting paid out wont they?

Was the previous lot that got the SL licence so again come season end the new Bulls may find themselves playing lower league footie!!

They won't. I think there is a will throughout RL that want's Bulls to stay up and outside West Yorkshire I can not see a club or many supporters who would want them removed from SL.

There is no obvious replacement club who could come up and compete and a 13 club league will be a no go for sure.

For better or worse I think they will get a licence for the next two years.

Nothing to do with the Huddersfield Giants.

If an employee doesnt agree to be TUPEd they in effect resign. Thats the risk of Administration and when buying a company where its assets are its employees.

In most cases it is players wanting to stay on with big contracts that causes the problem at clubs like Portsmouth not sure there have been many cases like this in professional sport and in "normal" administrations doubt many people would want to keep any employee who wanted out.

Don't think Halifax or Fev would agree with you to be fair. The Bulls have conned the RFL with regards to licensing and should go. End of!!!

Can't believe the bulls fans still think they're being hard done to by the rfl and now you. In honesty they should have been punished even further a this season the salary cap was a live one so they have been breaking the cap by spending beyond their means. Rather than being forced to cut their cloth accordingly in the way Salford (smith to Wigan) and Cas (ferres to you and trying to sell chase) the rfl have actually paid them to out of their own money to break the rules that they set up! The whole situation is a complete farce and makes the game look like a complete joke.

Spot on.

Jeez! I work in Bradfud so it looks like I'll have to take the stickers off the back window before some neanderthal takes offence.

Very upsetting times at the moment... high emotion i would suggest is the reason for all the finger pointing!

In fairness, i believe the only reason you have stuck the blame for Koppie is basically because you were named in the T&A article and the thread on hear discussing deals for Koppie and Gale... Not enough evidence for me to jump in head first!



All this bad blood is not good in my opinion and i dont get involved... as far as i can work out Koppie recieved a letter saying his contract was TUPEd over as of the 31st Aug! He has given notice that he objects so he is free to leave... seems to be the top and bottom of it!

On a side note hopefully this means the majority of our key players have accepted a to be TUPEd and now we can get on with earning our own way!

Koppie has looked after number 1, cant blame him at all in that! I just think it could have been timed better for his hometown club is all!

Ok we have recieved a lot of help from the RFL, but i for one hope we can move away from that and mkae our own way! I am a proud bulls fan because of my players and their attitude this season... the debacle has been very very bad!

See, this is the kind of thing that makes me and a lot of our fans have bad feelings towards that lot......this isn't the 1st time their fans have jumped in head 1st presuming our club are at fault or are involved in something they then round shouting their big gobs off accusing our club/chariman/board/fans of doing or not doing something - this has been going on since the day we arrived in SL and its cos of these people i have no time or sympathy for anything to do with Bradford Bulls.

Here Here Giant Daz, ATEOTD there is only 1 place any blame shoul lie for the situation Bradford Bulls are in and it ain't in Huddersfield!!!!

The thing is you are tarring all Bulls fans with the same brush. You are right in that we have fans that could not find their own rear end with both hands - and needless to say they are the ones with the big gobs. Think my gran used to say something about empty vessels making most noise. Similarly we have quite a few visits by gobby Giants, but what should be remembered is that these people that cannot see the difference between banter and fact. I think when you read all the posts about Koppy you will see that most are pi55ed off with the way he has done things. Most people think that he is right to look after himself and his family in the long run. However, to walk out on the club two days before the last match without having the decency to either tell the manager or his teammates himself shows a lack of respect. He could have played in the match and then resigned afterwards with no problems.

Maybe the offer of payment in samosa's wasn't to his liking

sorry, but thats Bradford's problem not ours .......the player has chose to do what he has done for his reasons not the Giants, its only rumour that suggests we have signed him, no one knows for sure what or if anything has gone on regarding us and the player....so for Bulls fans to lay into our chairman and club - AGAIN, without any proof is in my eyes very disrespectful, someone called our club 'scum' and a disgrace.

I realise things are a bit tender over at Odsal but to take it out on other clubs and other chairmen is frankly laughable !

Kopczak had to resign as he was only given 48 hours to decide his future. If he had played it would have been deemed that he was accepting the TUPE. Why send out letters in the last week of the season? Why was it not done after the game? Looks to me like his team mates are not as smart or they are on big bucks and are sat waiting like the fat cats did at Portsmouth FC.