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| You need to learn the rules. If you connect with someone's head intentional or not it is a penalty.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"You need to learn the rules. If you connect with someone's head intentional or not it is a penalty.'"
I would say 90% of the time the head of the attacker touches the defender at some point in the tackle. As I say, Ellis went for a ball and all bear hug type tackle, Robinson's head connected with his chest. Great hit.
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| Quote ="the stella kid"You need to learn the rules. If you connect with someone's head intentional or not it is a penalty.'"
As I said earlier re watch the Saints match the Gardner/Mullaley incident and listen to Stuart Cumins explain it and why they disallowed the Giants try and gave Saint's a penalty !!!!
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| Yes seen that explanation. Contact with the head is a penalty regardless of intent. I am not saying further action should be taken against Ellis. What I am saying is the try should never have happened as it was a penalty to the Giants
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| And it's still not as bad as the incident in the play off's a few years back when Carvell nearly decapitated Paul Reilly and the ref said play on and Hull score. That cost us the win on the night so not the first time this has happened
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instagram.com/p/be4KP5tIPQ/
Still say its a perfectly fair tackle? Right shoulder contact to back of head is bad enough- but his left hand is above shoulder level too- as for using Robbo being small as an excuse that's pathetic! Robbo can't do anything about his height but defenders can adjust their tackle.
Maybe if the hull players bent their backs a bit they wouldn't have lost so many this season!
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Still say its a perfectly fair tackle? Right shoulder contact to back of head is bad enough- but his left hand is above shoulder level too- as for using Robbo being small as an excuse that's pathetic! Robbo can't do anything about his height but defenders can adjust their tackle.
Maybe if the hull players bent their backs a bit they wouldn't have lost so many this season!
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| Quote ="jools"instagram.com/p/be4KP5tIPQ/
Still say its a perfectly fair tackle? Right shoulder contact to back of head is bad enough- but his left hand is above shoulder level too- as for using Robbo being small as an excuse that's pathetic! Robbo can't do anything about his height but defenders can adjust their tackle.
Maybe if the hull players bent their backs a bit they wouldn't have lost so many this season!'"
That shot clearly sees contact to the head a penalty, simple as that, it does not matter whether Ellis does this type of tackle all of the time, its poor tackling technique. Gentle said in the news conference that Anderson better have a look at the VR, well I'm not sure PA will have changed his mind on what I have seen in Jools freeze frame, or the highlights in the SL fulltime show.
He's lucky he did not make contact directly with the shoulder as that's a ban, and he may get away with a warning.
Given that the try should not have been given, and on the matter of tries, both of the other Hull tries are from very blatant forward passes.
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| That two of the Hull tries were from forward passes can't be helped. These things happen all the time. What is frustrating is that the ref managed to pull us up twice for forward passes when clean through, and dissallow a try in the corner for what? another forward pass or a knock on? Poor game but I'll blame the heat for players and officials performances...And both teams with an eye on next week.
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| well we found a way to win yesterday just like wigan and wire did previous...again a sign of a very good team.
wasnt pretty from us, we were playing with two make shift props (faiumu and taai) for alot of the game, crabtree i thought was great yesterday. and so was the magic man danny brough who ended up getting us the win!
some really stange decisions from the officials yesterday though much in hulls favour..
- grix tackled in the air yet hull get the penalty
- grix tackled high in the in goal but ref just ignored
- robinson knocked clean out to the head, but play just carried on, thought if it was a head injury play was stopped?
- we kicked a ball in to touch but briscoe went for it and touched the ball yet hull got head and feed at scrum?!
- briscoe tackled near touch line, tackle complete then he stands up and puts foot in touch, hull pen?!
anyway we got the win, onto the cup now!!!! hope robbo is ok which i think he is according to lunt, anderson was fuming
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Had enough possesion to win it but bloody clueless in attack AGAIN.As for Bentham..he was poor for both teams,didnt see the Robinson tackle but what happend when O'meley scored as Miller seemed to get a bit of attention and thought Crabtrees was a shoulder charge but like i say,Bentham was very poor.'"
miller pushed ferres and celebrated winding him up so ferres went after him... then everyone piled in. nice to get the victory after that
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| Quote ="brearley84"well we found a way to win yesterday just like wigan and wire did previous...again a sign of a very good team.
wasnt pretty from us, we were playing with two make shift props (faiumu and taai) for alot of the game, crabtree i thought was great yesterday. and so was the magic man danny brough who ended up getting us the win!
some really stange decisions from the officials yesterday though much in hulls favour..
- grix tackled in the air yet hull get the penalty
- grix tackled high in the in goal but ref just ignored
- robinson knocked clean out to the head, but play just carried on, thought if it was a head injury play was stopped?
- we kicked a ball in to touch but briscoe went for it and touched the ball yet hull got head and feed at scrum?!
- briscoe tackled near touch line, tackle complete then he stands up and puts foot in touch, hull pen?!
anyway we got the win, onto the cup now!!!! hope robbo is ok which i think he is according to lunt, anderson was fuming'"
add to that list brough getting the ball in our ingoal area - a hull player knocked it out of his hands one on one - perfectly allowed - but it went forward ref called a drop out from under the sticks.
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| If what Anderson said on sky sports are his own words he needs to be careful as he says that Justin poore dumped McDonnell on his head. This wasn't the case as Aiton rescued the situation and the penalty and warning were sufficient. You can't start banning players for something that didn't happen.
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| Sit down, Robinson. Great hit.
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| Head shot
Penalty
No try
It's not hard to spot
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| amazing isn't it that in the last 2 years we've had LOD and Robbo sent off for the exact same thing, not necessarily the challenge but the fact that the 'victim' lay injured on the ground, but when it happens to us - nothing, not a sausage not even a penalty in fact play on and let the opposition score a possible match rescuing try from it. Its double standards like this which drives people away from the game.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"amazing isn't it that in the last 2 years we've had LOD and Robbo sent off for the exact same thing, not necessarily the challenge but the fact that the 'victim' lay injured on the ground, but when it happens to us - nothing, not a sausage not even a penalty in fact play on and let the opposition score a possible match rescuing try from it. Its double standards like this which drives people away from the game.'"
this ^^^ been going on for a very long time, maybe when we win something it will change
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| just seen the replays again
ferguson and lawrence missed tackle for hull first try... grix could of done abit better too i feel.
for the taai try did crabtree not get it down on the line the play before that?!!?! certainly looked like it at the time to me and again on video
hull fc one try had a way forward pass in it
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| Quote ="Code13"Head shot
Penalty
No try
It's not hard to spot'"
No direct contact with the head of Robinson and the arms/shoulders of Ellis.
Great shot.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"No direct contact with the head of Robinson and the arms/shoulders of Ellis.
Great shot.'"
whichever way you see it seemed to fire us up more and we came away with the 2 points...take that over any great shot
we are used to going down a man and still winning by now
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| Quote ="brearley84"whichever way you see it seemed to fire us up more and we came away with the 2 points...take that over any great shot
we are used to going down a man and still winning by now
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Not taking anything away from the result, could have gone either way.
We tried a DG, missed, then try disallowed for offside. You tried a DG, charged down, then bounced into your players hands to score. Rub of the green seems to go in the favour of form teams, you're doing well at the minute and we're not!
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| He copped Ellis shoulder to the back of his head
Any contact to the head is a penalty
As Anderson said "you don't get knocked out for no reason" and Robbo is tough as nails, it takes more than a solid hit to lay him out
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| Quote ="Code13"He copped Ellis shoulder to the back of his head
Any contact to the head is a penalty
As Anderson said "you don't get knocked out for no reason" and Robbo is tough as nails, it takes more than a solid hit to lay him out'"
Any contact? So, I'm guessing these examples should have been a penalty against you, then. All show your players making contact with opposition players' head in the tackle:
I think not. Obviously Robbo couldn't take a hit from Ellis. It's ok, not many can when he gets them right.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Not taking anything away from the result, could have gone either way.
We tried a DG, missed, then try disallowed for offside. You tried a DG, charged down, then bounced into your players hands to score. Rub of the green seems to go in the favour of form teams, you're doing well at the minute and we're not!'"
You've for the answer right there in your description, when you kicked no charge down the man who chased and touched the ball down was offside. We kicked you attempted a charge down therefore =#BF4000playing our men back onside. No rub of the green just a correct interpretation of the rules.
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| Quote ="jools"You've for the answer right there in your description, when you kicked no charge down the man who chased and touched the ball down was offside. We kicked you attempted a charge down therefore =#BF4000playing our men back onside. No rub of the green just a correct interpretation of the rules.'"
I never said it wasn't the correct ruling, merely stating the charge down of the ball [icould [/i have gone anywhere, however it went into your players hands.
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