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| Quote ="Mad_Jack_Mcmad"But Brough is out of contract at the end of the season at which point his marketable value is zero. So why do so many Wakefield fans think they are in a strong negotiating position. Either Danny Brough wants to join Huddersfield or he doesn't. If he doesn't it don't matter a tinker's cuss what we are willing to offer for him, he will turn us down. By this stage of his contract his agent will have been in touch with every club in Superleague getting a feel for what offers are out there. If Huddersfield are the best bet then we could sign him in 6 months time for diddly-squat. Wakefield therefore are stuck in the position of getting nothing in 6 months time or >nothing for him now. They haven't got a very strong starting position when it comes to negotiating. No doubt a fee will be involved but it won't be a massive one and will probably factor into it the value to Wakefield on the savings on Brough's remaining contract.'"
On that line of reasoning then, we may as well release every player that is out of contract at the end of the season right now. Well they are going anyway .....
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"No that is not what I'm saying and you know it
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Who are you accusing of touching up? Was Ted involved? Do you have the negatives?
Put up or shut up.
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| I'm afraid it's before the cut off date where I can speak to Ted in an official capacity so I shall have to use a system of raised eyebrows and knowing nods. I'll get back to you when I have the answer but I don't see a problem with your specified dress code at this point.
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| Hmmmm. Sounds like Brough is guilty of gross misconduct. Wakefield have probably sacked him and are now angle shooting with Huddersfield to try and get the wages for a new coach driver.
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| Quote ="Catwoman1"No that is not what I'm saying and you know it
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Quote ="catwoman1"Danny Brough has been playing off Huddersfield against Wakefield in negotiations for a long while'"
No - it IS what you are saying - you just don't know it.
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| Let's hope the next driver they get is a fully inducted member of the Tufty club, for their sakes.
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| If Huddersfield have been guilty of tapping him up, you can expect a big fine. Having said that uncle money bags will sort it so won't really be a deterrent. Maybe a point deduction would be more fitting a punishment for a club with seeming unlimited finances.
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| Danny's agent is well aware of the strong interest from the Giants or to be more precise,Nathan Brown who desperately wants to add him to his team.
His agent is also aware that two other SL clubs have made their interest known and asked to be kept informed of developments. After Danny's agent informed them of this, the Giants decided to act now instead of waiting, prudent on their part, but it hands Wakefield the whip hand in negotiations.
If the Giants want to avoid a Dutch auction with two other clubs they have to come up with an offer that suits Wakefield. So from the Giants point of view it means balancing what they can/will/are prepared to pay to Wakefiled against the potential rise in wages that a three way tug of war for his services would instigate. With Salary cap restrictions at the forefront of peoples thinking an extra £20-£40 grand a year for the next 3/4 years is a major issue.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Dont want to get into the tapping up thing.....but on a side note, that would still be the same.....IF that happaned then the 'club' should have told him to go away and get permission first!!'"
We are not complaining of tapping up and so that is a non-issue.
We'll know the outcome in a few days, but I presume that the Wakefield response to the approach to release him early was "make it worth our while". The problem with agreeing to letting him go early is that if it is a player-exchange, we are limited to not only those players on the Giants roster but also those the Giants are willing to release. By waiting until the end of the year, we could use the money we were offering Brough to invite any player here or abroad (subject to quota) to join Wakey, and maybe even one who played in the same position, and so it has to be a decent offer to make us jump early and leave a major gap in the squad, as opposed to spending the next eight months looking for a replacement.
And for what it's worth, if an individual is happy to pour his money into a rugby league club to make it better, good on him. I wish there were more like him (particularly if they had a WF postcode).
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| Quote ="deeHell"If Huddersfield have been guilty of tapping him up, you can expect a big fine. Having said that uncle money bags will sort it so won't really be a deterrent. Maybe a point deduction would be more fitting a punishment for a club with seeming unlimited finances.'"
How about we start every game with -50 points? It wouldn't have you recently but Leeds / Hull KR and Bradford would have benefitted.
Since Wakefield are making announcements it would suggest they are 'happy' with the situation - nowhere is there a 'an illegal approach' announcement and 'reporting to RFL'. Maybe you should get your crayons out and draw Red Hall a picture?
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| Quote ="PONNER"[url=http://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/wildcats-and-danny-brough-i606796.htmlwww.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/wildcats-and-danny-brough-i606796.html[/url'"
Now I know it isn't true - Wakey's board doing what is in the best interests of Wakey?
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| This is ace!
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| You know what would really be quality now, for Brough to sign a new long term deal at Wakey.
"I always wanted to stay here," said Danny "as the club can match my ambitions and let me drive the coach to the games. I also got this cracking suit from M&S!".
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"We are not complaining of tapping up and so that is a non-issue.
We'll know the outcome in a few days, but I presume that the Wakefield response to the approach to release him early was "make it worth our while". The problem with agreeing to letting him go early is that if it is a player-exchange, we are limited to not only those players on the Giants roster but also those the Giants are willing to release. By waiting until the end of the year, we could use the money we were offering Brough to invite any player here or abroad (subject to quota) to join Wakey, and maybe even one who played in the same position, and so it has to be a decent offer to make us jump early and leave a major gap in the squad, as opposed to spending the next eight months looking for a replacement.'"
That is what I don't understand about the whole situation - a deal could be struck, signed and sealed now for the end of the season thus meaning Wakefield keep DB and can replace him with your own choice. We've got a settled squad, you have too - why is there applecart upsetting going on.
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/wakefield/8568233.stmBBC[/url now got involved!
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| Quote ="Wadski"That is what I don't understand about the whole situation - a deal could be struck, signed and sealed now for the end of the season thus meaning Wakefield keep DB and can replace him with your own choice. We've got a settled squad, you have too - why is there applecart upsetting going on.'"
Read my post, above.
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| Quote ="Wadski"That is what I don't understand about the whole situation - a deal could be struck, signed and sealed now for the end of the season thus meaning Wakefield keep DB and can replace him with your own choice. We've got a settled squad, you have too - why is there applecart upsetting going on.'"
One word: agents!
Arguably, he won't be as expensive next year, as a three year contract would take him to 31 as opposed to 30, which can be a big difference when speed is part of your game. His agent will know that he is worth more now than then.
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Dont want to get into the tapping up thing.....but on a side note, that would still be the same.....IF that happaned then the 'club' should have told him to go away and get permission first!!'"
Wildcats executive director Diane Maskill said: " Huddersfield have approached us concerning Danny and we are considering what they have said."
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| Quote ="Wadski"That is what I don't understand about the whole situation - a deal could be struck, signed and sealed now for the end of the season thus meaning Wakefield keep DB and can replace him with your own choice. We've got a settled squad, you have too - why is there applecart upsetting going on.'"
Careful!! With a post like that this thread could turn into a reasoned and rational debate!!
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| Quote ="Wadski"Wildcats executive director Diane Maskill said: "Huddersfield have approached us concerning Danny and we are considering what they have said."'"
Said didn’t want to get into a 'tapping up' debate (as nobody has the answers)....my post was a ‘what if’ scenario!
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Said didn’t want to get into a 'tapping up' debate (as nobody has the answers)....my post was a ‘what if’ scenario!'"
I got fed up of looking for the cat ladys posts to quote and my eyes were drew to Kermits.
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| Quote ="Wadski"I got fed up of looking for the cat ladys posts to quote and my eyes were drew to Kermits.'"
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| Not read this full thread so forgive me ifits been answered but where would you play Brough if you got him, IIRC you've just signed Robinson on and extended contract to play 7. Brown at 6 and Lunt and Drew at 9? Can't see Brough been a squad player and his wages will be a quite a bit so how do you see him fitting in.
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| Quote ="barham red"Not read this full thread so forgive me ifits been answered but where would you play Brough if you got him, IIRC you've just signed Robinson on and extended contract to play 7. Jeffires at 6 and Lunt and Drew at 9? Can't see Brough been a squad player and his wages will be a quite a bit so how do you see him fitting in.'"
probably at move robbo to 9 and interchange with Lunt. Leaving Brown and Brough at 6ers and 7s and Faiumu to loose forward / OOC at end of year.
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| Quote ="Wadski"probably at move robbo to 9 and interchange with Lunt. Leaving Brown and Brough at 6ers and 7s and Faiumu to loose forward / OOC at end of year.'"
How does Drew fit in or is he OOC at the end of the year?
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