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| A game of 2 halves.
One with errors and one without errors.
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| Quote ="jools"Well we are still conceding but we can't blame Leroy for any tonight....'"
I was wondering who would get the blame tonight...
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| Would of been well beaten tonight against a better team but we played well enough to get back into the game.
Defence is a real worry, showed some fight in the last 5 minutes on our goal line though.
Seb, Ta'ai and Leeming stood out for me. Wood also impressed offensively and Rapira looked times fitter.
Brought isn't kicking well enough.. it could be the difference in another match.
Still think Brierly isn't being used to the best of his ability.
Gaskell threw up on the sideline I think. He didn't look right.
I'll take 2 points! Wakefield were unlucky. Thought they dominated the ruck for large parts and spread the ball well.
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| God knows how we won that, well i do - we got Kruise running from dummy half again, it worked in the 1st 20, we stopped using him, they got into the game, we used him again and won.
Thought we were poor tonight and a decent team would have smashed us tonight, Wakefield are not a decent team, i thought we were on for a trouncing at one point, credit to our boys though for sticking at it and getting something.
We have to get better, we've had 2 awful performances in a row now.
Kruise is getting better every game - give him as much time on the field as he can handle.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"Would of been well beaten tonight against a better team but we played well enough to get back into the game.
Defence is a real worry, showed some fight in the last 5 minutes on our goal line though.
Seb, Ta'ai and Leeming stood out for me. Wood also impressed offensively and Rapira looked times fitter.
Brought isn't kicking well enough.. it could be the difference in another match.
Still think Brierly isn't being used to the best of his ability.
Gaskell threw up on the sideline I think. He didn't look right.
I'll take 2 points! Wakefield were unlucky. Thought they dominated the ruck for large parts and spread the ball well.'"
Agree with just about all of that.
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| i am an exiled fan living in hull so wasnt there tonight. i work nights so cant get to friday night home games, great move by the club!!!!! (or not in my case or in general) But did listen to it on the internet. So for all the people who want to slate my comments then im only basing it on commentary and friends who went. Here goes, brierly doesnt seem good enough for a pivot player. wakeman needs some work weather it be fitness or otherwise but doesnt seem superleague standard at min. Once seb and taii go off we seem weak up front! I reckon we are missing 3 to 4 players of real quality to make us into a force. Having said that we came back from 16-8 down at half time and nilled them in second half to win so fighting spirit is in abundance. Maybe early days etc so hopefully we will improve. great 2 points in the grand scheme of things.
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| During the period that wakeman and clough were on we looked like a championship side going forward. Neither of these two are anywhere near superleague standard and when we come against a GOOD pack, god help us once we are into the interchange.
I'm not sure that Brierley actually took the ball to the line once in the whole match, and we really are not good enough to afford to be playing someone who's only role is to back up breaks and make an extra passer in the line.
Large periods of the game we forgot to actually move up in defence, even on the line!
Positives for me, were that we showed far more menace near their line, and actually used the possession we got in that area well and converted it into points.
Leeming is a very very good talent, he is still far from the finished article, but his scooting is now very good, and his footwork and ability to feign and pass like a halfback means that he could really be something special. He is still taking some bad options at times, but with more experience he could really turn into a special player.
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| at least someone agrees with me reguarding brierly! we need a creative scrumhalf not a support player at 7!
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| Some absolute garbage being talked on this thread
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| Quote ="Code13"Some absolute garbage being talked on this thread'"
Agree with that.
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| Quote ="Code13"Some absolute garbage being talked on this thread'"
I think a lot of what you say is garbage but everyone has their own opinions - what a forum is for... if you don't like it you don't have to post
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| Quote ="Hangermans"During the period that wakeman and clough were on we looked like a championship side going forward. Neither of these two are anywhere near superleague standard and when we come against a GOOD pack, god help us once we are into the interchange.
I'm not sure that Brierley actually took the ball to the line once in the whole match, and we really are not good enough to afford to be playing someone who's only role is to back up breaks and make an extra passer in the line.
Large periods of the game we forgot to actually move up in defence, even on the line!
Positives for me, were that we showed far more menace near their line, and actually used the possession we got in that area well and converted it into points.
Leeming is a very very good talent, he is still far from the finished article, but his scooting is now very good, and his footwork and ability to feign and pass like a halfback means that he could really be something special. He is still taking some bad options at times, but with more experience he could really turn into a special player.'"
Brierley took the ball in his very first carry after about 3 minutes, and we scored the next play!!
Agree re Wakeman and Clough though, they both look about a half stone overweight, and our intensity noticeably drops when they replace Seb and Taai.
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| Quote ="TBC"Agree with that.'"
Which part is garbage, the part about your grandmother being able to make meter's against us, Which i agree with by the way " even not having met the lady". But i am well aware we put in a couple of stints of extremely good defense, and I'm as glad as anyone that we won. I await code 13 explaining to us about the bad reffing and the obstuctions and offsides that led to Wakey scoring a length of the field try, or was it just luck that he ran through half of the team like they were privet trees.
People are just giving their views, they are as valid as anyone else's, I just don't understand why some people get so wound up about it, Would it be better if everyone came on once a week and said We were Wonderfull or we were unlucky, depending whether we won or lost.
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| 8-0 up , should have been 12-0 but brough's kicking is leaving alot to be desired at the moment, cost us v salford and almost again lastnight, we was in control at that point but them shakefield got on top and i expected them to go on and win the game
but stone must have given them a rollicking at half time and he got a great response!
second half was all giants, great grit and determination, stone said last week salford wanted it more but this time we did and that was good to see.
brough in the end came up with abit of magic with a great try for jerry. jerry was walking wounded lastnight too.
ikahihifo is in amazing form at the moment, unstoppable as is taai and leeming...the last named played 80mins at hooker!
pleased to get the win when we loooked down and out, 2 wins from 3 not a bad start at all
ikahihifo on report , hope he escapes a ban but jones bishop got a broken nose.
we need more from brierley... and brough had a poor game really too, letting us down abit these two, the forwards are laying the platform
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| think shakefield are actually a decent outfit nowadays so dont agree with comments that we would have lost to a decent team
they were completing at 90% first half but that dropped to 70% second half
they were in control but the credit has to go to our players who turned it around with mega determination and grit
agree about wakeman and clough not producing the goods at the mo, wakeman though hasnt had a pre season so people need to remember this and he will need time, not to mention being in a new country.
brierley disappointing me at moment
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| Quote ="brearley84"think shakefield are actually a decent outfit nowadays so dont agree with comments that we would have lost to a decent team
they were completing at 90% first half but that dropped to 70% second half
they were in control but the credit has to go to our players who turned it around with mega determination and grit
agree about wakeman and clough not producing the goods at the mo, wakeman though hasnt had a pre season so people need to remember this and he will need time, not to mention being in a new country.
brierley disappointing me at moment'"
A few having a pop at Brierley, but is he playing to Stones instructions. He was the only one backing up Brough`s break. I believe he should be backing up Leemings scoots or an offloading prop, but if he is sticking to Stones game plan then we can`t bag him. Just remember his last seasons tries at Wigan, and keeping us out of the million pound game. And we are only in game 3 so let`s be patient.
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| For me brierley has done little wrong- he's not stood out but neither has he for the wrong reasons
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| not just brierley, i think both half backs are letting us down at the moment, maybe we arent using brierley correctly..
some of our last play kicks are woeful and putting too much pressure on ourselves
brough nearly cost us the game friday, then again he won it with some magic too but wont get away with it that often, like we didnt v salford and those missed goal kicks, hope he has some kicking practise this week!
brough actually went into the top 10 all time scoring list friday too
suppose its still early days in their partnership at half back
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| I think all teams are trying to adapt to the 7 play set for kicking dead, give it a few weeks and all teams will be better on the last.
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| Quote ="GiantDee"I think all teams are trying to adapt to the 7 play set for kicking dead, give it a few weeks and all teams will be better on the last.'"
yeh noticed that too, seems to be alot more teams running it on the last rather than kicking
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| seems it was taai that was put on report, but stone queries it as no actually penalty was give by the ref
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| Quote ="brearley84"seems it was taai that was put on report, but stone queries it as no actually penalty was give by the ref'"
That's probably because like a lot more incidents' he missed it, unfortunately for your club the panel won't, and before you kick off it won't make the slightest difference to Wakefield as we won't be playing you next week, so a ban will only benefit Hull.
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| Quote ="brearley84"seems it was taai that was put on report, but stone queries it as no actually penalty was give by the ref'"
Incident was on report because of injury. When it happened, it was Ta'ai who raised his hand up and alerted the ref to the injury and no player from Wakefield saw anything untoward to evoke an immediate reaction. The same level of protection is offered to both teams. Happy for it to be reviewed on that basis.
Hull have two players cited - Taylor and Watts.
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| Quote ="chissitt"That's probably because like a lot more incidents' he missed it, unfortunately for your club the panel won't, and before you kick off it won't make the slightest difference to Wakefield as we won't be playing you next week, so a ban will only benefit Hull.'"
yeh he missed loads for us spear tackle on mcgillvary should have been put on report too
taai one game ban i think the outcome will be.
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| Leeming made 56 tackles (missed 4) in that game and over 100 metres with an average of 9 metres a carry!
Sam wood 33 tackles (missed 5) 2 tries, average 8 metres a carry and three clean breaks
Fantastic to see young hudds talent showing their stuff!
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