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| He needs to bulk up- that will cost him speed- if he's not a kicker or an organiser what does that leave him with as he ages?
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| The beauty of RL is that it is a game for all whether you are an 18 stone barnstorming prop, a stocky hooker, a rangey second rower, a pocket rocket half back or as Brierley gave a great step, lightening pace off the mark and awareness of gaps. Whilst he will naturally bulk up through a full pre season he does not necessarily need to do so at the cost of losing pace. I think he is underrated at the moment - as an example the try he set up for Leroy at KR showed most of his best qualities and not least his awareness of support to pass to after first drawing the FB and being brave to suffer the inevitable hit as he delayed the pass.
Will only get better and for me a Brough/Brierley combo is dream halfback pairing.
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| Quote ="jools"He needs to bulk up- that will cost him speed- if he's not a kicker or an organiser what does that leave him with as he ages?'"
Bulking up doesn't mean you lose speed... In fact, it could make him faster and more powerful.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I would say it was Johhny Giles who provided the cultured play in that team'"
So would i mate ,but it was Mick Jones who used to create havoc in the goalmouth and sniffer who was quick enough to snap up the chances.
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| Quote ="jools"He needs to bulk up- that will cost him speed- if he's not a kicker or an organiser what does that leave him with as he ages?'"
Why does he need to bulk up, he will built up naturally, The trick is to retain the speed, There is no law says you have to be overweight and slow to play for Huddersfield. However as he is not a kicker or an organizer he can't be good enough for the Giants, Much better to stay with our pedestrian options.
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| dont think brierley needs to bulk up either
he may not do as thats his build anyway
sure he is used to being a target and being hit by bigger men
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"Why does he need to bulk up, he will built up naturally, The trick is to retain the speed, There is no law says you have to be overweight and slow to play for Huddersfield. However as he is not a kicker or an organizer he can't be good enough for the Giants, Much better to stay with our pedestrian options.'"
What do you mean be built up naturally- he isn't 17!!!!
All I'm saying is that just being quick isn't good enough- it wasn't good enough for Kevin penny first time round, it wasn't good enough for dale cardoza, Paul white or that skinny blond lad who came from aus who's name escapes me at the moment but was awful.
They get found out if all they have is pace. if stone is at all a decent coach then brierley should offer more than pace next season.
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| dont forget Luke George he was destined for a great career , he was a popular player with the Giants
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| Andrew frew!!!!!!!
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| He is a massive threat through the middle regarding support play and speed. Something not many teams have in SL, especially the speed.
Giants need to teach him how to be a better half. He's only 24 after all. Already a very good passer, too.
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| He will learn to organise and improve his kicking
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| Quote ="jools"What do you mean be built up naturally- he isn't 17!!!!
All I'm saying is that just being quick isn't good enough- it wasn't good enough for Kevin penny first time round, it wasn't good enough for dale cardoza, Paul white or that skinny blond lad who came from aus who's name escapes me at the moment but was awful.
They get found out if all they have is pace. if stone is at all a decent coach then brierley should offer more than pace next season.'"
I'd agree with this - simply being quick is not good enough.
However, as I'm sure we can all see, there is far more to Brierley's game than just his pace.
He possesses a good awareness in both attack and defence, and can combine the two - how many others score interception tries for us? - and it is his combination of pace and ability to read the game which has made him such a successful support player. He can throw long passes to the left and the right, as we saw most recently against Hull KR (where he was involved in all four of our tries). He has a good rugby brain - and I'm not sure one can say that with as much confidence about Kevin Penny, Dale Cardoza, Paul White or the aforementioned mystery blond. You could even add the fastest of them all, Dwain Chambers.
He is not by any means the finished article, he can be quiet in matches, and was particularly quiet in the second half last week. But his pace, his support play, his ability to read the game, his ability to beat a man and the quality of his passing suggest that he has a real chance of making it in Super League. Whether he lights it up or not in 2017 I don't know, but I'm sure he'll offer more than pace next season - because he's already done that in this, his debut Super League (not full!) year.
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| Quote ="no fear"I'd agree with this - simply being quick is not good enough.
However, as I'm sure we can all see, there is far more to Brierley's game than just his pace.
But his pace, his support play, his ability to read the game, his ability to beat a man and the quality of his passing suggest that he has a real chance of making it in Super League. Whether he lights it up or not in 2017 I don't know, but I'm sure he'll offer more than pace next season - because he's already done that in this, his debut Super League (not full!) year.'"
Sounds like the perfect fullback
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| Quote ="jools"Sounds like the perfect fullback
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Joking aside, his attacking ability would be highlighted more at FB, but his defensive frailties would too
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| Quote ="Iggy79"Joking aside, his attacking ability would be highlighted more at FB, but his defensive frailties would too'"
Sounds like any other player put into fullback then
Brierly would be an excellent fullback but is a better half back
There are many players like that
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| Quote ="Code13"Sounds like any other player put into fullback then
Brierly would be an excellent fullback but is a better half back
There are many players like that'"
I'm not saying he's on his own in that regard. He is one of few who's coach has come out and said he doesn't know where to play him though.
I think he's a better half than FB too
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| You couldn't make some of this stuff up, He has shown in the very few games he has been able to play in that he has got what we need, " have needed for a long time " Playing in a side that think backing up is something relating to blocked pipes, and offloading is an alien concept, he has still done well, he has fallen short nowhere that i can see, and yet here we are talking about his downsides, that seemingly even include him not being heavy enough among other things.
Talk about Grix getting some stick after five years, this lad is getting it before he's got started in super league, and let's face it, If he had not played last week, we would not be in S league either.
His all round game will improve as he gets more experience in SL and he'll get stronger, It's up to Stone to make sure his talent isn't squandered, Nobody is saying he is Brilliant, but he is so obviously better than anyone else we have had for years, and It's not as though he is going to let down a team of super stars is it. all of who have their downsides as well.
We have seen over the past few years where pedestrian football has left us, we have staggered on year after year, with makeshift halves who have been lots of effort and little talent, God alone knows where we would have been had we not had Brough.
He has shown enough to make me think he can be a very good player anyway.
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"You couldn't make some of this stuff up, He has shown in the very few games he has been able to play in that he has got what we need, " have needed for a long time " Playing in a side that think backing up is something relating to blocked pipes, and offloading is an alien concept, he has still done well, he has fallen short nowhere that i can see, and yet here we are talking about his downsides, that seemingly even include him not being heavy enough among other things.
Talk about Grix getting some stick after five years, this lad is getting it before he's got started in super league, and let's face it, If he had not played last week, we would not be in S league either.
His all round game will improve as he gets more experience in SL and he'll get stronger, It's up to Stone to make sure his talent isn't squandered, Nobody is saying he is Brilliant, but he is so obviously better than anyone else we have had for years, and It's not as though he is going to let down a team of super stars is it. all of who have their downsides as well.
We have seen over the past few years where pedestrian football has left us, we have staggered on year after year, with makeshift halves who have been lots of effort and little talent, God alone knows where we would have been had we not had Brough.
He has shown enough to make me think he can be a very good player anyway.'" Good post Jumbuck and it looks like Stone is going to do something about it.
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| If we had Brierley when Crabtree was offloading 2 or 3 years back, we would have been top of the tree now, he is what we have been missing for years.
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| Is the mystery blonde Andy Cheetham?
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"Is the mystery blonde Andy Cheetham?'"
No- Andrew frew-although cheets would fit too!
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| Except Andrew Frew wasn't blonde...
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| Quote ="LF13"Except Andrew Frew wasn't blonde...'"
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| worst blonde i remember apart from cheetham was ben kusto!
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| This thing about Ryan's defence is an interesting one. He's obviously going to be singled out because he looks 'frail'. Yet I've seen him stop Menzie Yere in his tracks, in a one-on-one, and there are a lot of bigger guys who have come worst off in trying to do that! I'm not sure how you are going to 'bulk him up' (not legally, anyway) as he's had 3-4 pre-seasons at Leigh, where weights and nutrition programmes were always high on the agenda, and tailored to individual players.
With some dedicated coaching, I'm sure he will increase his range of talents. He was always willing to learn at Leigh, and did develop a lot, as a player and person. Hence I think the alleged Stone comment about not having received any proper coaching, was somewhat below the belt - especially given the performance of his team in the first 40-50 minutes at Leigh!
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