But those aren't éxcuses those are people's opinions on what's wrong.
No one is making excuses for anything, what is there to find an excuse for? we are bottom of the table because we deserve to be!

You are not one of the Giants admiration society though are you, You are one of the whinging Brigade if your opinions don't fit in.

But by your own words meast, You don't want to be entertained, you want to win, ( you are on a hiding to nothing at the moment then ) And yesterday you were saying that offloading might not be in our Game plan, we are not privy to such info as fans. If that's not an excuse for our lack of skill, what is.
Offloading is one of the fundamental parts of the game ( we are privy to that info, We know it ceased to exist in the Giants game when Faiumu packed in) Huby was a offloader at Cas, that's all gone now. Eorl was getting there under Brown, that's all gone now.
We could be playing in the middle 8s, and fighting to stay in there, and some people will still be saying we just need time to turn things around.
P Anderson is not doing it for us mate, I don't know why ( I wish he was ) He has got us what we have on the back of some solid defence, and credit to him for that, But as has been said we are getting found out.
Almost every player we have has gone backwards, not one single one would get picked for England now except maybe Jerry and that's doubtful
I feel like many people I talk to, that we have missed our chance and we need to start over, We have to find a D Powel from somewhere, or another N Brown ( who isn't going to have some sort of wobbler )

I'm with you Meast.

We've got problems and are 'in a hole' as PA says.

If there was ever a time when everyone associated with the club needs to pull together this is it.

Looking on the positive side we're only 6 points off 4th.



Wonder what odds you'd get for a GF win at the moment?

Reading the posts on here is like a discussion between Humans and martians.

There are some real problems at the club and no one seems to answer them.

The big issue for me in respect of Anderson is who is responsible for recruitment retention and planning.

If it is baloo he should be gone if it is Thewlis he should be gone. One or the other is responsible.

Injuries are part of the game every team at one point or another experiences them. Hull a couple of years ago and Saints last year

Leeds and us this year.

What is important is what sort of squad do you have,

Who went into this season we three experienced props Eorl, Rapira and Huby ?

We then have a couple of blown up second rows as back up Taai and Patrick.

After that we have three kids. Everyone knows that Props do not come into their prime until late 20s.

We were left with Smith mason and Johnson.

They a;; might become great players but they are a long way from where they need to be.


IN the backs it was even worse. We had two experienced backs to provide injury cover then we were down to kids who are not ready.

Who decided to go into the season with Robbo who was on the verge of retiring last year. Again this left us running a big risk re injuries.

Some one at the club gambled with having a very small squad and they lost big tome.

Someone made that decision and now we are paying for it.


My separate issue about Anderson relates to his man management / coaching and tactics.

Last year we had the quickest player in the league and never played to his strengths. We did not on one occasion as i can remember have a set mve using his pace. We then off;load him.

Who stopped our payers playing any sort of off;loading game.

Why is our passing so slow innacurate. This has been an issue for 3 seasons.

Every time i here Anderson say, " we know what the problems are, the players turned up with the wrong attitude". Then we say it again.

I can accept the team losing. I cannot accept the team not trying. Not trying is about something in the team. It is not about skill or injuries.

In my view Anderson has TWO games to sort this. If the players give up in the next two games like they have in the last two then Anderson will have to be sacrificed.

IF we lose the next two games we will be in the middle 8s and will need a new coach to get the team up for winning in the middle 8s. It will take that long to re organise and re invigorate the team.

Like i said, it's opinions, i don't see how sacking Anderson will make things better, i have given my opinion on what i think is the problem and what i think the answer is= patience.
Some people don't see it that way, and have no patience and call for heads to roll, that's their prerogatives.
maybe he has run his course, but in my opinion he deserves a chance to get us going again.

As for entertainment, then i would rather we work on fixing up the fundamental problems, like catching, tackling,passing etc first.

Smith isn't inexperienced- and you can't have it all ways- we either give the kids an opportunity or have experience.
Make your mind up.

Agree with all of this , I was saying at the start of the season, why have we not recruited better ? Why are we showing such loyalty to players well past there best ? We seemed to ether get over confident or lose the plot all together after we won the lls, to me that was the time ,the momentum was on our side ,confidence was high and in my opinion replacing a few tired players with some class myt have been all we needed to go all the way ,but instead we as a club have just taken a massive step backwards! . I just hope something is done quick because we don't have a big enough fan base to cope with even one season in the lower leagues, yes we would survive but the damage would be done and 90% of our top players would abandon ship. Hopefully we will stop the rot and find some fight soon. I seriously suggest we find some big aggressive forwards and let them offload!

Absolutely right mate but you are wasting you time trying to convince people who see the world through Claret and Gold glasses. They think if you have the nerve to criticize the club or complain about the style of play, you are just a whinger who is not a true fan at all.
In reality they have been watching Tripe for so long that the last few seasons has seemed like they have found El-dorado. Most of last season, certainly up until the split, the football played was rubbish, other than 2/3 games ( they did pick it up in the playoff section to their credit ) till it mattered and then it went the same way as usual, they don't care mate , the lower they get the more you are supposed to get behind them ( if you are a true fan that is ) obviously the majority of people in Huddersfield feel differently. ( but hey ,what do they know, they weren't one of the 300.

Being one of those 300 is nothing to be ashamed of. it,s, not something to be proud of either It's just an admission you were prepared to go and pay out to watch Tripe, While you were , thousands of other people were watching good sides play good Football.

Well it won't take much for us to be heading in that direction again , Fans are deserting yearly , yet still all we need is a bit of time ,to turn it round. We need to beat Salford tomorrow or Mr Anderson will be in serious trouble, I don't want to see him out of work, I just want to see him Work somewhere else. We are playing a boring pedestrian style of football that people will just not pay to watch, If you play the game how it's meant to be played you will get you share of wins, more importantly you will get people to come and watch, So for me the ball is in Mr Davy's court.

Does Ryan Brierley have a clause in his contract, saying he can give four weeks' notice, if Anderson goes?

What's all this 'They' business ??

Are we not all fans of the same club ? are we not all wanting to see this club be successful ?
Those are comments i'd expect from a fan of a rival team or a troll not one of our own.

We all want the same thing for this club....some have more patience and endurance and are prepared to trust the club, some want it now - obviously you are one of the latter.
Don't get me wrong i would love the club to break world record fees to bring the best half-back/prop/full back etc to this club and win everything there is to win in the next year but the reality is it isn't going to happen.
It could turn around and we may go the rest of the year unbeaten, we don't know but we will only find out if we stick with it....moaning on forums and criticising long term fans for being eternal optimists will not make the club better or worse.

No but it clearly makes them feel better.
Many of the same folk moaning now are the same ones moaning we don't give the kids a chance- well we have given the kids a chance- now they are moaning we didn't recruit


I think Anderson's days are numbered if after a few weeks of a settled side we are still without a win. But I'm willing to give him chance with the same spine of a team for a few weeks first. - that's possible if we don't get hit with more injuries.

I don't doubt one minute that Paul's job is in doubt, he is the head coach and he will get the chop long before any of the underperforming players, harsh but that's how the game goes.

I don't know what more he can actually do without going onto the pitch and making the tackles, passing the ball, making the players run with it and not drop it.

I feel for him he's a damn good coach but the fans want instant results/better performances and trophies to cheer, me included, obviously circumstances this year mean he hasn't got the squad he hoped he would have - and that is now showing.

The players need to step up though as they are the ones underperforming, again in not ideal situations as thingas that happened threw a spanner in the works.

The bottom line is we are bottom of the table, playing poorly and with a large number of fans getting restless again (obviously this time last year we'd ridden the early season storm out and all was rosy again it's just taking a bit longer this year).

I won't call for Paul's sacking but if we fail to win in the next couple i cannot see him staying much longer, we lost enough fans over the Nathan Brown saga, we can't afford to lose anymore now !!

I have been very consistent . I was alwayas arguing for changing the team. Last season every week i would have rotated the key props so that they missed one week in four Eorl, Mullally, Koppy and Huby. Then i would have played one of the youngsters to give them experience.

You and others on here kept on saying dont change a winning team. My view was do change a winning team give experience and rest the main strike players so that they had some energy at the end of the season.

That is how you blood youngsters slowly in a settled team.

Not what we have now where we have to play loads of them who are not ready.

It was the same with the backs and the hookers. I constantly suggested playing them on a regular basis for easier games so that the main players were ready for the big games.

It is you are inconsistent yet even now you dont seem to address the big issue of who is responsible for the fact that this squad was a disaster waiting to happen.

Before the season started i said this squad was not good enough and that was before the Robbo and ferres debacles.

But we did change the team, we did have players like Johnson playing, and leeming, and Simpson.....
Any more and we would have been in s position like the one we find ourselves in now.

Ok DAZ we are all fans of the club, but some of us can see that changes are needed while there is still time.
You want to talk about reality, well reality is the middle 8 and a fight to stay in S league, as opposed to your idea. " quote" It could turn around and we may go the rest of the year unbeaten but we will only know if we stick with it " unquote" By that way of reckoning we could also go the rest of the year without another win at all and be down to a couple of thousand fans, would you still be saying " I won't call for Paul to go ".

The one sure thing is that we could not get any worse than we are at present with a change of coach, If you can not see that our players have gone backwards , you are either blind or know nothing about League at all, It's far more likely that you are blinded by your unflinching loyalty to everything Giants, altough you may actually think our players have improved under Mr Anderson.

Anyway I have had my say on it, I am not going to change your mind about anything and if you want to keep paying out your hard earned indefinitely to watch Sh*** that's your business, but you wont get the public of Huddersfield to do the same with the present set up, and it's not because they are tight fisted miserable B*******s, it's because they know when they are watching S***** from a half decent squad.

I just felt we were on the cusp of greatness, if a few changes ,and right decisions were made ,but those decisions weren't made unfortunately ,and now we seem to be at the bottom looking up agen instead of the top looking down . No its not the end of the season yet and I truly do think we will turn things around , I'm hoping now for around 6th 7th. But we all have to admit it's a little frustrating to slip so quickly from where we were a few years back to this . At the end of the day we are fans and are passionate about our club and all have different opinions, I for one will support them through thick and thin always. Anyway long live the GIANTS and bring on Salford!

Jo, I've watched this club through its worst ever times and paid my hard earned for more years than most of our squad have been alive ...and believe me these are still good times compared ...and of course I'll continue to go and pay my hard earned its what I do, I don't just go to the games to see them win its the whole social aspect of the day spent with my good friends ...I love this club and will still go to every game even if we're in league 1.
Obviously I would like us to be challenging for the world club challenge but I cannot alone change what happens so I go along full of hope every game every year.

I know some don't that's their choice but a couple of bad seasons won't stop me going !!

We are all entitled to an opinion, we won't always disagree but to split the fan base like you have is pathetic.
We all want the same thing, we just have differing opinions to each other, but to suggest that some section of our support is against the other is ridiculous
If you don't like what's happening at the club, speak to the club? raise your concerns? or if you don't like watching us or want to support us then don't, you aren't been forced to do it.
I appreciate your opinions and your concerns but constantly moaning about it isn't going to change things, i know you see me as "one of them" but i just get fed up off seeing all the negative rubbish, yes we are bottom, yes we've been poor, yes, our crowds are crap, yes we play rubbish stuff, yes the weather is rubbish!

I appreciate what you are saying Daz, and you are right . Your support of your club does you credit, I don't understand it but so be it, I guess the problem is we come from different League supporting backgrounds, I have said before ,I grew up watching the best around, you grew up watching what you did, so I suppose that will account for our different views.
That said I shall be there again today hoping for a good effort, We should be able to put out a half decent team, We don't usually do well against Salford at home, but now is as good a time as any to start to put things right.

So basically what you post comes under the " everyone has the right to their opinion category " What I post comes under the " what you are quite happy to call negative rubbish" Yet I am the one splitting the fan base.
Has it never occurred to you meast that other people might be just as fed up of hearing , all the maybe's and endless excuses that you trot out on here. Have I ever called any of your posts fanciful over optimistic rubbish, No I have often questioned your opinions, and for answers I get Maybe this ,Maybe that
As usual because I don't agree with you , I am constantly moaning, I think I am being realistic, but as far as you are concerned Its negative rubbish. and I get the " if you don't want to support us don't stuff" What comes next ? why do you come on the Forum, you aren't being forced.
For your information I have contacted the club on occasions , they haven't bothered to respond.

The weather could be worse, all the others I agree with.

Reading through all this it's clear we all want the same thing, just there are differing opinions as to the way forward as is always the case, but ultimately we must get behind the team on the field together, there are few enough as it is! Comparing the team with those of years ago, good or bad, serves no purpose...we have what we have now.
I believe the big thing for PA at the moment is man management...he has a small squad and needs to manage each individual appropriately to get the best out of them....they should all know the structures and systems it's making sure the application is there.
It is up to him as coach to get the discipline sorted...he isn't on the pitch but he should be able to instill it into the players, it's part of his job!
I have often been baffled by his interchanges. (Not just this season) and I think it's true that we have been poor to watch, particularly last season. Given that, I will be happy to see us grind out a couple of much needed wins this week!
I understand the "give him time" argument, but how far do you go? I think if today and Castleford result in defeats we have to look at a change then...games are ticking by and we need to pick some points up.
On the recruitment front, I'm not sure how much say he has...I have no knowledge of how it works within the club but have an impression that Thewliss is the main driver there...May be wrong it's just an impression I have.
Like the rest I am very frustrated and disappointed this year but my view is that I support the team and that continues through good and bad.

5 half back pairings, 5 fullbacks, (6 after today) 3 players playing 3 positions, 3 players playing in 2 positions.
A 20 year old having played fullback, 6,7 and centre. Debuts galore.
That's not counting the in game changes when people have gone off injured.

And just TWO players playing in their same position all year.


But it's the coaches fault......

Another loss, 2 pts thrown away and the shambles just rolls on and on. Bottom 2 and a possible million pound game await us unless something changes very,very soon. Too many mediocre players at the club and not enough class in the team even when at full strengh to pull us through. Time for a good shake up of both mediocre/underperforming players and coaching staff. Heads need to roll in order for us to move on.

Defenatly time for him to go now where going nowhere with him in charge