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| One prop and four hookers, 44 points against later, how can he stay?
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| Where was Mason tonight ?
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| Not needEd we only need 1 prop
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| Quote ="Run leroy , run !"Where was Mason tonight ?'"
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| Not propping
When Crabtree came off they took controll
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| Why even have 1 prop ?
Was mason at the ground ? Saw Fairbanks eating sweets and laughing in the dugout at halftime.
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| Get rid now. Are we the only club that lets our coach speak to another club during the season and allow him to sign a contract with them for the following year? I know he was leaving but he and Saints could have waited till the end of the season. He was supposed to be moving back home and I wouldn't have minded him signing a contract with an Aussie club but to sign with one of our rivals really takes the . This one appointment has brought negativity to our club. What is Brown thinking. Which players he wants to sign for them so he can build a team for the next 3 seasons or how to get out of a annual mid season rut his current employers are in who he leaves in October. At the moment his heart doesn't seem in it and something needs doing ASAP.
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| Spot on joe! I kept quiet on this, but after tonight i feel i should have my say, nathan brown has been a good coach for us and took us to a level a lot of us never thought we could, for that he has my utmost respect,but however i feel now that by having divided loyalties, which he must have? That he is losing a lot of respect we have for him, i would like to thank him for what he has done for us, but i think if truth be told he is spent up at the giants now and should do the honourable thing and walk away before he ruins everything, i would hate for him to become a hate figure as sharp became and would like him to return here knowing he was welcome and respected, sadly if this keeps up thats waht will happen, go now with our best wishes nathan and concentrate on your new path in life at st helens
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| Spot on joe! I kept quiet on this, but after tonight i feel i should have my say, nathan brown has been a good coach for us and took us to a level a lot of us never thought we could, for that he has my utmost respect,but however i feel now that by having divided loyalties, which he must have? That he is losing a lot of respect we have for him, i would like to thank him for what he has done for us, but i think if truth be told he is spent up at the giants now and should do the honourable thing and walk away before he ruins everything, i would hate for him to become a hate figure as sharp became and would like him to return here knowing he was welcome and respected, sadly if this keeps up thats waht will happen, go now with our best wishes nathan and concentrate on your new path in life at st helens
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"dropped'"
Because he put a decent stint in last week's first half.
No, he was dropped because he didn't do anything in the 2nd half. He didn't play in the 2nd half? That's no excuse.
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| I think you have to put tonight into perspective: Hull KR are, along with Wigan, the form team atm...they beat Warrington last week!
You will turn it around next week against London (I think that's who you have anyway)
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| Sorry but I'm sure at the time, the Huddersfield fans where on here saying how great it was that Huddersfield had signed another Hooker (a troubled one at that) in Moore and that he would bring more to the Huddersfield game. Well I was pretty certain at the time that Moore was not required with Lunt and Robinson in place. But at that point in time Huddersfield where flying high and Brown could do no wrong, now there are too many Hookers, from the same people who welcomed the signing and it's all Browns fault when people were praising him a month and a half ago.
He can't be great and awful for the same thing.
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| I certainly wasn't bloody saying that
I was wondering why the hell Lunt wasn't getting played.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Sorry but I'm sure at the time, the Huddersfield fans where on here saying how great it was that Huddersfield had signed another Hooker (a troubled one at that) in Moore and that he would bring more to the Huddersfield game. Well I was pretty certain at the time that Moore was not required with Lunt and Robinson in place. But at that point in time Huddersfield where flying high and Brown could do no wrong, now there are too many Hookers, from the same people who welcomed the signing and it's all Browns fault when people were praising him a month and a half ago.
He can't be great and awful for the same thing.'"
Are you a Troll ??
Find me ONE Giants fan that said signing Moore was great and would welcoming it, as i remember there was nothing but outrage and confusion!!
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Sorry but I'm sure at the time, the Huddersfield fans where on here saying how great it was that Huddersfield had signed another Hooker (a troubled one at that) in Moore and that he would bring more to the Huddersfield game. Well I was pretty certain at the time that Moore was not required with Lunt and Robinson in place. But at that point in time Huddersfield where flying high and Brown could do no wrong, now there are too many Hookers, from the same people who welcomed the signing and it's all Browns fault when people were praising him a month and a half ago.
He can't be great and awful for the same thing.'"
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| To be fair i dont remember anyone saying signing moore was a good thing,most of us wanted lunt to stay,i know i certainly did!
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| Quote ="brearley84"moore got in the super league dream team when playing for us, get him back to that form and happy days!
its a massive chance for him till the end of the season so he should take it, brown will sort him out, he sorted mason,faalogo,o'donnell and brough out afterall!!!
we havent missed lunt and think he will be on a good wage....frees some space up to sign our talented youngsters longterm...something has to give at the top end of the wages to keep the young ones'"
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| Ok it was not everybody that was a slight over statement on my part.
I just remembered posting at the time it seamed a little weird...
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| Saints Fan in Peace.
First and foremost, I don't think it was right for it to be announced that Nathan Brown had signed for Saints for next season or that even an approach was made at this point in the season. If I were in your shoes as Huddersfield supporters I would be extremely angry.
A similar thing happened last year in the NRL with Des Hasler signing for Canterbury twelve months before his Manly contract ran out. It shouldn;t be allowed as its so disruptive to teams. Brown is bound to have one eye on where he will be next year. Its no different when people start making plans to move house or go on holiday months in advance.
What has suprised me is that Saints went for him in the first place after Brown had said he was going back to Australia. I know circumstances can quickly change but he has chopped and changed his mind so many times before. Lots of Saints fans are delighted he has signed for next season but I'm not convinced one bit, mainly because I dont really trust people who do chop and change their minds so much and I don't think he will see out his three year contract with us either.
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| Quote ="Murphys Magic"Saints Fan in Peace.
First and foremost, I don't think it was right for it to be announced that Nathan Brown had signed for Saints for next season or that even an approach was made at this point in the season. If I were in your shoes as Huddersfield supporters I would be extremely angry.
A similar thing happened last year in the NRL with Des Hasler signing for Canterbury twelve months before his Manly contract ran out. It shouldn;t be allowed as its so disruptive to teams. Brown is bound to have one eye on where he will be next year. Its no different when people start making plans to move house or go on holiday months in advance.
What has suprised me is that Saints went for him in the first place after Brown had said he was going back to Australia. I know circumstances can quickly change but he has chopped and changed his mind so many times before. Lots of Saints fans are delighted he has signed for next season but I'm not convinced one bit, mainly because I dont really trust people who do chop and change their minds so much and I don't think he will see out his three year contract with us either.'"
A spot on post.
I feel dreadfully sorry for what is happening to Huddersfield at the moment in the league.
I would pay his contract money off to him right now and tell him to fook off!
Also, if I were a Saints fan I wouldn't want him to be anywhere near the Saints.
He's a loser!
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| Hurrah, at last everyone else seems to be now agreeing with me. Have said for couple of seasons that NB is not this world class coach some seem to think.
We have been spending upto salary cap for last 2-3 seasons are full of England Knights and England players as well as other nationalities who have played for their countries, world cup winners, state of Origin. Yet he has won nothing, not a bean.
Some saying getting to 1 game away from GF and runner up in CC is great achievement. Load of Tosh, we are still polishing dust at the Giants. Season after season NB has been saying he was going cos wanted to go back home. The man is unprofessional in that respect and has caused disruption in the Giants camp season after season after season. Some may think he has done well but 2nd best isn't doing well and shouldn't be classed as acceptable.
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| To be fair to nathan,how many other coaches have won silverware? I dont think you can judge a coach's ability on his trophy haul, nathan brown is a good coach,he has proved that in how he turned us around,how he got us playing for each other, but sadly it seems he is trying to focus on 2 jobs,yes i want him to win something before he goes,he deserves it but i think he has chosen his next step in life and should fully concentrate on that now and leave us with the respect he has rightly earned
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| McGuire came over to Wigan and won was it 2 or 3 trophies. Spend same as we do so why not judge Brown on what we have won. How else can you judge cos IMO last 5 weeks show we are no further along?
Can't keep defending an attitude like that I saw on Monday. 1 team wanted to win and deservedly did win and the score flattered us. Brown picks the team and to be honest has got it badly wrong over last few months
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| Quote ="Gi4nts"=#FF0000McGuire came over to Wigan and won was it 2 or 3 trophies. Spend same as we do so why not judge Brown on what we have won. How else can you judge cos IMO last 5 weeks show we are no further along?
Can't keep defending an attitude like that I saw on Monday. 1 team wanted to win and deservedly did win and the score flattered us. Brown picks the team and to be honest has got it badly wrong over last few months'"
This is far too simplistic and on this Brown deserves some defence.
We have never had the academy set up or the numbers of fans which Give Wigan a huge advantage. With the franchise requirements on home grown players we will not be able to compete with the top teams until the current crop of 16, 17, 18 year old players start coming through.
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