The sixty odd quid I spent on Sunday wasn’t his money. It was mine.

I’d post more often if they played on Sundays all the time.

It's okay, let him keep thinking it was Westie's try that was dodgy, might stop him having a coronary when he sees this.....

Let’s compare ourselves with our near neighbours Wakey and Cas The are doing better than us withlower Salary cap or they were until recently , no marquee players , not the best facilities at the ground and all with players who are playing better than ours.

That is about them being better run-and Happier clubs. Ours has been run badly and not playing in the WCC said we are mediocre and are happy to stay like that. From there the only way was downhill.

Looks like you've got touch of the Borats there.

A couple of paracetamols and an early night for you I think.

To be fair with the money Huddersfield spend on players they should be doing better, granted injuries don’t help but as someone says it doesn’t and never has looked like a happy club imo. Not having a dig btw. I just think with Davy pumping money in the signings aren’t considered / thought as much as say Wakefield’s would be?

We always seem to get the best out of players that other clubs wouldn’t.

Apparently Grix played part of the game with a broken hand

To be fair, there was a period of several years where Fartown were on the up and going well. At that point, they had nearly jumped from the Wakey/Widnes/Salford group of clubs into the top group - looking set to replace Bradford.

A couple of things happened within the squad that made things difficult. But the biggest thing for me was that the club - not necessarily the squad - didn’t have the courage to make the step up.

There’s a pivotal moment in the lives of successful people where they choose to step up to another level. It’s not easy to do that, particularly if you have no experience of it. It’s risky. Many people who try to make that step fail (look at Liverpool - they tried and failed under Brendan Rogers, will they succeed under Klopp?). But absolutely everyone who doesn’t take that step fails.

In some organisations taking that step up is an expected part of the organisation. In British RL you’d look to St Helens, Wigan, Leeds when Sinfield was playing. Or the All Blacks, Manchester United under Fergie, Liverpool for about 30 years, Yorkshire CCC for decades until Geoffrey Boycott destroyed the culture.

The others - like Wakey, for example - are pretty much drifting along in an easy and comfortable culture of mediocrity going nowhere.

The thing with Wakefield is that they’ve not been close to that breakthrough moment for fifty years. They’re happy as a club to be the sixth or seventh best in the league in a good year and they don’t appear to have any interest in changing that. Which I can understand - most people run their entire lives on those lines. It’s a comfortable way to live. But then most people aren’t elite sportsmen.

My frustration with the Giants is that they worked bloody hard to get to that big decision point, and then the management of the club went “Nah, better to sit back and tick along as we have done for years.”

They were almost there. If they’d tried and failed, that would be disappointing but forgivable. But the club lacked the guts to try. It’s no surprise that the players, who are the ones who put in the blood and sweat and pain, just gave up and now the club can’t attract decent players.

Such a waste.

No issue with most of what you say but in Wakefields case they have rebuilt, there is no sugar daddy Michael Carter runs a tight ship he does not spend money the club does not have. Income streams are increasing so more money is available. The club is hamstrung with the stadium at the moment once that gets sorted which currently seems way off the club punching at a specific level. What it has got is a streamlined admin behind the team. The playrrs themselves appear to get on well and are bought into the vision of Carter and Chestet things are getting better.

For me that pivotal moment was when we refused to compete in the World Club Challenge. If I was a player at that time I would have been gutted not to play against an NRL side and as a fan I was gutted we turned down that opportunity to witness us compete against an NRL team. Perhaps that message then sent out that we are happy to settle for less and in some small way has affected the attitudes of people at the club.

come on we dont get nothing from the refs!!

child was dropped after his performance last week against us

still they have won nothing , lls shield apart like us.

been some bad decisions made by the giants in recent years no doubt, wanted thewlis out years ago.

2013 and around then was our time and we blew it to win the grand final... two cup finals too, one we should have won.

tough times now

From when i started watching Fartown (under Murphy) we were a club on the up. We stalled when we hit Superleague for a few years, but after relegation started climbing again and very nearly hit the heights. The biggest problem , however uncomfortable, is that the town itself didn't want it. We were winning nearly every week, had realistic chances of winning things and appeared in challenge cup finals. Attendances barely grew at all. I think Mr Davey and co. realise that all they can do right now is keep the ship afloat until 'maybe' one day the town does want it. If you look at league tables in most sports, you will find that clubs are more or less ranked by attendances. Sure, there are some fluctuations, but in the longer term, having a big fan base gives you more chances to get it right. You buy bad players, you have the money to replace them etc etc. According to attendance we are where we are meant to be, i am saddened that Huddersfield doesn't want a successful Rugby League team, and would rather watch football, but that is the reality. We tried to change it, and in the timescale we have had so far, have been unsuccessful.

The 70's and 80's were bad for Huddersfield in more ways than just the rugby played on the field. We lost a generation, and that lost generation never passed on the Rugby League bug to their children. Now we are trying to rebuild from scratch a supporter base, and to be honest not doing too badly, i see a lot of younger fans and children at games and that bodes well. For the first twenty years i watched Fartown we were simply replacing the old fans who had seen the glory days of Hunter, Cooper and Devery with new ones. Now they are all gone, and we have to build a new legacy from scratch.

I always want us to be vying for trophies and winning matches, but the reality is we aren't a well enough supported club to be doing that consistently, until we are we will continue to struggle.

Good post Hangerman2 I believe you have hit the nail on the head.One thing you are wrong about is us older speccies some of us are still around after 70years.

that was 'scored' at a crucial time too think it was 12-8 at the time

Snip.

I don’t agree with your post one iota. If you,entertain , if you market, if you sell if , you engage , if you have a good product you can sell anything

The Giants have failed on all of these fronts and have consistently blamed the fans or the lack of fans or the people of Huddersfield

There was a lack of ambition, lack of strategy and vision by the club and when they had a chance to build they did not seize it.

There were things they could have done two small examples they could have decided whether they were a Sunday or a Friday team earlier instead of prevaricating and ing off lots of fans and then had a strategy based on which day it was on. They could compact the fans in the main stands to create some atmosphere.

Neither would cost much money but both would help improve attendances and the match day experience.

I get really ed off when people blame the fans that is just trying to pass the buck and basically saying .

Huddersfield is not interested so let’s just give up. With better people at the top we might not be here in such a poor position

Off the field, they are just punching their time cards mate, If they got payed for running the club on results,like most people do,( and i'm not talking about results on the field) they would have been down the road years ago, but there is zero ambition so why rock the boat,.

I am not saying the club is well run at all, and of course they could have done more, but really, everyone in the town knew of our success via look north, examiner etc, and attendances barely shifted, sorry but some of the blame is on the mindset of Huddersfield population, they only want football for the most part regardless

Some really good points made and of course just some simple things would make a difference ie Just giving fans some decent information on signings and strategy. What is bizzare though is that everything is penny pinched down there yet if you believe the press Ken was willing to throw 500 K at Widdop. what difference would that make without the clubs operations being run properly ?

Maybe, just maybe, they had no intention of signing wisdom- and it was all about showing intent to attract players.

You really are clueless

This is one of my main beefs. You have to be Hercule Poirot to find any decent info.

You just need Instagram. Which rules out a large proportion of our fans I’d say.

And you’re unpleasant but we all have our cross....

Indeed! I find it frustrating that they can't put some decent info on their website.