This is the most boring thread I've ever read. Folk giving the speculate to acumalate .

Speculate what?

We have no money!!!

It's all Kens and as far as I'm concerned he's spent more than enough. Some folk need to get a grip!

We never bought Lockwood Park - that is union territory.

If people ever other to read the club's version of the Mason affair tey will agree with the club.

If Leeds have more than ten times our marketing department it doesn't matter we should still be able to market as good as Leeds???

To those who want to let Me D spend some more of his money, why don't you buy two season tickets?

Bradford are where they are now because they spent money they didn't have.

Some people say that we should not compare ourselves to other clubs yet in the same breath they compare us to other clubs!

Instead of slagging off the club, why don't to - to whomever the cap fit - get on board with organisations which are working with the club to move the Giants forward?

we can't throw money at anything because we don't have any money!

as much as i want to see us start getting into finals and winning silverware, i am also realistic to realise that we cant do it without the finances necessary, and we can't rely on Ken and the Davy family forever, we have to be self sustainable, which we aren't at the moment,nowhere near, yes it's frustrating but as supporters, we need to be trying to help the club, not bitching because we have gone 50+ years without a major trophy,
its not accepting failure or not having ambition, it's been realistic and realising that we can't just throw money at things to make things better, Look at Salford!

we have built up the club, mainly thanks to Mr. Davy and a lot of hard work and patience, to throw all that away in order to "give it a go" and throw money we don't have at trying to win a pot is suicidal and would ultimately lead to the club's demise, do we really want that? do we want to put the whole club in peril for the sake of a crack at winning the big trophies?

if it meant having a club and a team constantly involved in the top end without winning a trophy or gamble the club's future, i know what i would choose.

sorry if that makes me an apologist etc but that's the harsh truth.

and i agree with Jools, this thread has drifted way off topic, maybe a mod could bring all this stuff into a new topic?

Disgusting Jools - it was only £2 at one of our end of season do's. !

Mind you we hadn't won owt

I highly doubt that I would disagree with the law of the land.

Actually, I was implying that the club should invest in their marketing department so they are able to market better.


Rather than it being the customer's responsibility to buy whatever they are offered, it is the responsibility of the supplier to offer what they want.


Again, it is the responsibility of the club to advance itself rather than yours, mine or anyone else as followers of that club.

We need to prevent emotional attachment from influencing our thought processes when it comes to expanding our customer base or making that team change that results in winning a Grand Final. It's business.

If he wants the club to become self sustaining then I think that speculation will be cheaper in the long run. Have a real serious crack at the marketing (the team is not a million miles away). If it doesn't work in 3-5 years, walk away and leave the Huddersfield public with the team they deserve.

It's easy for Leeds to market their club, they are marketing success, It's not so easy to market an annual collapse I agree.

Bradford may have been spending money they didn't have, We are spending someone else's. The big difference is that for 10 years they were on a roller coaster of a ride, that no one can take off them, while we have been trundling along on a pair of skates by comparison, and I'd place even money, even now, they will win the Grand final again before we do.

Where all this throwing money at players has come from I don't know, All I have advocated is a couple of class players in key positions rather than 3/4 who can't take us forward. Nobody has asked for a Salford fiasco, which clearly has been a disaster, or a Wigan pre Super league , which was just as clearly Fantastic.

Oh and for the record Ivor, I don't buy Season tickets because I can't afford too, I have commitments to other people who are far more important and needy than the Giants, If that disqualifies me from having an opinion, ( which you consider slagging the club off ) or from posting it on here , you let me know.

All true, apart from the Mason bit - the club were found to be in the wrong in a Court of Law. As much as we would all like to believe the club were in the right it has been proven they were not.

If the club are clinging onto the belief the were in the right that is worrying as a failure to recognise or acknowledge when you have made an error of judgement you cannot correct it or prevent a repeat.

Ivor i am not going to get into a discussion about the Mason affair.

The court made its decision

BUT


Some absolute idiot at the Giants thought that Mason was worth £100,000 a year salary now that is criminal

If I am not mistaken the decision to buy a player is taken by the committee not by one person.

Who negotiates the salary? The committee?

The Commitee ? Who are they? Thewlis, Thewlis and Thewlis. Has Anderson got a say?

Yes it's in the Examiner regularly

ivor the old police sporting complex next door TO Huddersfield RUFC

woodfield park ?? I believe 40 y o g

Lockwood Park - Park Valley Mills - Woodfield Park.

yeh thought the giants bought woodfield park to then develop into a training complex, went quiet though

and now they have redeveloped on leeds road instead so things may have changed now

Probably the plans have disappeared down the same dark hole as the sports bar for fans that was promised by R Thewlis a few years ago

I don't remember anyone promising a supporters sports bar.When was this Yorkieboy?

I remember this. they were going to convert part of the stadium into a bar. It was a few years back now.

You are right Stella, it was when they were developing the ticketing/front end, had an e mail, wish I had saved it, from Mr Thewlis stating that it would be a members bar, free to join due to limited capacity

scrapped due to financial issues !

I believe the area originally allocated (might be wrong !) became the shop area
If so as a lot of the "gear" in there is Town stuff it might have been down to agreement between the two "occupants"

Though would have thought Town could have got some mileage out of that as well?

However as the stadium catering side /bars are a separate franchise it may be the stadium company who had some input
Perhaps Ivor could clarify the circumstances much clearer than me?
Either way --it didnt happen as we know!

All I remember is that supporters were promised an area but KDSL then decided that they'd get more money if the proposed space became a conference/dining area.

It appeared to be very short-sighted to me.