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| if we turn up with the right mind set (unlike last time we visited!) then we should win this one, luckily i think we are on a high so should be ok on that front
players on both sides will be wanting to make a good impression with the ties both clubs have regarding previous players
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| Think we will be up for this after our poor show at home last time. Didn't go to the Hull game but with what i am told our defence was pretty good for most parts. As for Robinson going from half back down the middle he may be choose to do this wisely as we have a machine of a hooker in Aiton who doesn't really care who runs at him and hits well for a smaller player.
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| Another thing from a giants poitn of view is dicipline. When i saw wakefield play v bradford on sky wakey was given penalties away for fun so we don't want to get dragged into that game. We need to stay cool and play our game. If we get dragged into penalty after penalty then i feel we could lose the game esp if he picks mason and chan
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| Quote ="supercat"Think we will be up for this after our poor show at home last time. Didn't go to the Hull game but with what i am told our defence was pretty good for most parts. As for Robinson going from half back down the middle he may be choose to do this wisely as we have a machine of a hooker in Aiton who doesn't really care who runs at him and hits well for a smaller player.'"
Robbo has done it to better players than Aiton. Only really seen him in Bulls tv game. A very good first half and a poor second half by the guy. Smith is brilliant when he can be bothered. How is John. Have heard nothing positive about the guy at SL level.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Let's start with the coaches.
NB took over after we finished 10th. We have had an average end of season (27 games) finish of 4th. So play offs every year. One final eliminator semi for a GF and one CC Final. Top notch.
Agar took over a Hull side that were a top end club. He had a full cap, quality squad, first rate youth policy, excellent stadium and brilliant home support....He took the club backwards and played dull rugby given the players he had available. Struggled to even make the play offs. He is now at a club without a full cap, a lower quality squad, nowhere near the quality of young players in poor facilities and poorer support. Can anyone but the most stupid RL fan be surprised that only one win has been posted - against by far the worst team in the competition. Lucky to get another head coach job.
Over a season we would expect the Giants players to make more improvements and play better game plans than Wakey.'"
God give it a rest Marsden your still as boring as ever. Never miss an opportunity to stick the boot in. How about acknowleding how far we have come in the last 12 months. I doubt we will win on Sunday, but the team we have, is probably the most well conditioned, we have had since Hudds nicked our last decent conditioner off us, and the rugby we are playing, whilst not getting us the results is alot more entertaining than the 5 drives and a rubbish Tommy Lee kick we had to put up with last season.
Clearly, you can't expect a squad with 18 new players to gel straight away, but the general level of performance has not been bad, just little things not done right at crucial times has IMO cost us at least 2 wins from the 3 games we have ended up losing.
If we continue on Sunday in the vein we have so far, being competitive for the majority of the game, then if as expected we lose, I will still leave happy.
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The new super stand made with Bacofoil is ready for us to fill on Sunday. Let's all gather in there and make some noise.
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| is there no back to it then or just a roof ?
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"is there no back to it then or just a roof ?
Any Wakey fans know ?'" Doesn't look like there's a back to it and as I took it from the Wakey board I assume they know about it.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"God give it a rest Marsden your still as boring as ever. Never miss an opportunity to stick the boot in. How about acknowleding how far we have come in the last 12 months. I doubt we will win on Sunday, but the team we have, is probably the most well conditioned, we have had since Hudds nicked our last decent conditioner off us, and the rugby we are playing, whilst not getting us the results is alot more entertaining than the 5 drives and a rubbish Tommy Lee kick we had to put up with last season.
Clearly, you can't expect a squad with 18 new players to gel straight away, but the general level of performance has not been bad, just little things not done right at crucial times has IMO cost us at least 2 wins from the 3 games we have ended up losing.
If we continue on Sunday in the vein we have so far, being competitive for the majority of the game, then if as expected we lose, I will still leave happy.'"
Oh dear little man. You are one of the knuckle dragging wakey fans who have dedicated a dozen or so posts to bellyaching about me on a thread where I have not even posted. My posts seem to irritate the dimmer of the wakey mob. Ho hum.
If something bores me I do not write paragraphs about it
The conditioner came to the end of his contract, his agent offered him around and the Giants signed him. Welcome to the real world.When you say we 'knicked' your conditioner you appear foolish.
Tommy Lee has done a decent job for us. But Brown and Anderson are very capable coaches.
Instead of blowing hot air tell me what I got wrong about Agar. With the riches of Hull he took them backwards. Feel free to prove otherwise The evidence on his player recruitment and development of young players is at best mediocre.
Where is the evidence that Agar can get 18 new players to gel? If he can't you are stuck with many ill fitting players for a couple of years.
If there is evidence that agar can coach please provide it.
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The new super stand made with Bacofoil is ready for us to fill on Sunday. Let's all gather in there and make some noise.'"
It's only temp until Newmarket is build the north bank (away stand) will be cover in the next few weeks. That part of the ground pictured is known as Chav corner even sane wakey fans don't go there it reminds me of the old end pen on the lowfields Elland rd in the 80s. Weather forecast for Sunday is good tickets selling well so should be a good game.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"It's only temp until Newmarket is build the north bank (away stand) will be cover in the next few weeks. That part of the ground pictured is known as Chav corner even sane wakey fans don't go there it reminds me of the old end pen on the lowfields Elland rd in the 80s. Weather forecast for Sunday is good tickets selling well so should be a good game.'"
Does that mean that there will be 8,000 from wakey and the 20 from hudds that your boards say is the maximum that we will bring ??
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"Does that mean that there will be 8,000 from wakey and the 20 from hudds that your boards say is the maximum that we will bring ??'"
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The new super stand made with Bacofoil is ready for us to fill on Sunday. Let's all gather in there and make some noise.'"
and they get a super league franchise....along with cas its a joke.
next time round the franchises will come up for grabs then the usual spoiting of a new ground will be in place next season
luckily for wakefield crusaders decided to pull out last time
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| Quote ="brearley84"and they get a super league franchise....along with cas its a joke.
next time round the franchises will come up for grabs then the usual spoiting of a new ground will be in place next season
luckily for wakefield crusaders decided to pull out last time'"
Luckily for us youth development is part of the franchise criteria.
[urlhttp://www.giantsrl.com/matchday/results[/url
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| Aww bless.
Big clubs always take the best players from smaller clubs. Always will.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Luckily for us youth development is part of the franchise criteria.
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You won't be able to poach everyone else's when Uncle Ken is gone.'"
=#FF0000Edit Try and keep it with some semblance of civility. Mick
If you think scores in U20s games is the measure of development you must have a rugby league learning difficulty. It is about creating a system to get young players in their late teens / early 20s into the first team. Look for young players getting some regular first team footy. We have the likes of cudjoe, McGilvray, lawrence, eden, fairbank, patrick, wardle and walker. Who do you have at wakey? How many of them are in the England squads?
The talk of poaching players is assinine but commonplace among a group of wakey dimwits.
What about Sunday's game? And do you think there is any evidence that Agar is a capable coach?
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Luckily for us youth development is part of the franchise criteria.
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Wow, the complete lack of any self-awareness whatsoever peddled by some of the Trin contingent is almost brilliant if it wasn't so pathetic.
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| whats all this about ken davys money??
we arent the only club that spends upto the salary cap.. out of the 14 id say 10 are spending upto the cap.
some have broken this in the past such as bradford and wigan...not the giants
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| bookies giving wakefield a 12 point start
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| Don't forget Wakey also broke the salary cap.
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| Have they ever caught the fellas who knicked their scoreboard ?
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Oh dear little man. You are one of the knuckle dragging wakey fans who have dedicated a dozen or so posts to bellyaching about me on a thread where I have not even posted.
My posts seem to irritate the dimmer of the wakey mob. Ho hum.
If something bores me I do not write paragraphs about it
The conditioner came to the end of his contract, his agent offered him around and the Giants signed him. Welcome to the real world.When you say we 'knicked' your conditioner you appear foolish.
Tommy Lee has done a decent job for us. But Brown and Anderson are very capable coaches.
Instead of blowing hot air tell me what I got wrong about Agar. With the riches of Hull he took them backwards. Feel free to prove otherwise The evidence on his player recruitment and development of young players is at best mediocre.
Where is the evidence that Agar can get 18 new players to gel? If he can't you are stuck with many ill fitting players for a couple of years.
If there is evidence that agar can coach please provide it.'"
I'll humour you. The point I was making is you only appear to see fit to point out how bad a coach agar is now he is at
Wakefield (whom for some reason you seem to detest above all other clubs and for no apparent reason). If you have previously said how bad he is, then please feel free to provide some proof of such posts and I will gladly apologise.
You are kidding if you think we have a poorer youth set up then Hull, far from it. Our youth set up is highly commended by the RFL and held out as an example to other clubs. The new club lottery 1873 is purely set up to increase funding to the youth development programme in place, and so we are only going to get better in that regard.
As for proof of him being a good coach, I will reserve judgement until a bit later in the season when he has had more time with what is a totally new squad, but the initial signs appear to state we are heading in the rght direction in terms of competing and wins should follow.
I have no evidence to say he can get the side to gel, but you have none at this early stage to say he can't. Other than the obvious lack of a top class goalkicker, and the potential argument we could do with a big prop, the rest of the squad appears to be well rounded. A couple of additions for next season and I reckon we will be competing for the top 8 in 2013.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Luckily for us youth development is part of the franchise criteria.
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What many supporters of other clubs fail to realise about our u20 side-is that the giants do actually play youngsters in that side and with the exception of the odd player ie tonks getting up to match fitness following a foot injury we don't play "squad" players like many other sides do. In fact many of the players who play in the u20s have actually been stepped up from the academy. Considering those kids only left school one or two years ago and are playing against men I think that the future bodes very well for the giants re youngsters.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"I'll humour you. The point I was making is you only appear to see fit to point out how bad a coach agar is now he is at
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[You are clearly hard of thinking. Have a look at the thread title. It is about Giants versus wakey. The clue is there for you. I am not going to write about the Hull coach on such a thread. For some bizarre reason Wakey gave this failed coach a nice long contract. Admit it Agar's record at Hull was abysmal so why take him on at wakey. I think Glover was ill advised
You are kidding if you think we have a poorer youth set up then Hull, far from it. Our youth set up is highly commended by the RFL and held out as an example to other clubs.
[Not kidding at all. I care even less what the RFL say after some dreary tick box activity. Development is about bringing players through to SL level. Your own coaches have so little faith in your youngsters that you have signed 9/10 overseas players + plenty of older uk players rather than rely on your youngsters..no faith in them at all
The new club lottery 1873 is purely set up to increase funding to the youth development programme in place, and so we are only going to get better in that regard.
[Good stuff
As for proof of him being a good coach, I will reserve judgement until a bit later in the season when he has had more time with what is a totally new squad, but the initial signs appear to state we are heading in the rght direction in terms of competing and wins should follow.
[So you cannot look at his Hull results with any objectivity?
I have no evidence to say he can get the side to gel, but you have none at this early stage to say he can't.
[Don't I? You obviously know little about the Hull era
Other than the obvious lack of a top class goalkicker, and the potential argument we could do with a big prop, the rest of the squad appears to be well rounded. A couple of additions for next season and I reckon we will be competing for the top 8 in 2013.'"
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| I thought this was match talk, unfortunately it's fallen into farce from both sides. As i work with giants fans and live closer to huddersfield than Wakefield I think its better that I discuss it there, and as for that cripesginger thing you really do need to get a life, both clubs have an illustrious past but no recent trophies and you do nothing to aid YORKSHIRE RUGBY LEAGUE so please refrain from your vitriol.
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