Don't disagree with your assertion regarding interpretation but I'd suggest that if the RFL amended that rule to be when the deal is signed, which is essentially when it is effective anyway, we could avoid all this stupidity. But then that would be far too logical for the RFL! Better to argue semantics and exploit loopholes to give each other the runaround.

How can it be effective now when he's still playing for you? Latest reports are that he told Hull yesterday he wants to stay with hudds so down to the clubs to agree an appropriate fee I would think

If it wasn't effective then surely he would be free to change his mind without recourse?
Got to say I think holding out for a fee would be a bit of a liberty. Both Connor's agent and Hull FC exploited a loophole to avoid paying a fee in the first place and now Connor's changed his mind. Chalk it down to experience and move on I say.

Let me just try to get this straight in my mind. ( bearing in mind I have been one of the Giants biggest critics over some of their past dealings )

Giants offer Conner a new deal worth more money that his current one, Conner turns this down and Hull claim he has signed for them ( in some form ) which Conner confirms. Conner then changes his mind and says he wants to stay with the Giants. If the RFL have registered him as a Hull player ( which seems to be the case ) then Conner is a Hull player. It seems to me the Giants have done nothing wrong at this point, so they can either walk away and forget the whole thing, leaving Hull with a player who doesn't want to be with them, Or they can make some sort of offer for Conner, as can any other club, Depends how much they want t him I suppose. Have I got that right.

It seems more than a bit perverse that we have a situation where a club pays a transfer fee to keep a player who hasn't left! But that's what we've come to expect from our administrators these days!

If Connor really wants to stay, he should pay part of the transfer fee as it is him that is messing both clubs about, seems strange to change his mind, if it's the full back thing surely he knew when he signed he was unlikely to play there with Hull have Shaul.

I suspect that he is only motivated by money, and not ambition, one of the reasons for success this year has been team spirit, You have to question if he is the right character to fit into our squad.

As I've said this needs sorting and quick so both teams can recruit good for next year.

Reading between the lines from his Sky interview when picking up the MOM award, I think he had issues with Paul Anderson and they were a big factor in his decision to look for a move.

To be honest I think the talent in the Hull and Huddersfield squads is pretty even overall. Obviously Hull are having a good season while Huddersfield have had a stinker, fair play to you etc, but Hull are not suddenly World beaters. If you look at recent seasons' final league positions, I don't necessarily think it would be fair to question his ambition for deciding he wants to stay at Huddersfield. You could be accused of sour grapes.

Hull's squad is far better than hudds

We have been poor the last few, while you have had some of the best seasons in your recent history and not even come close to winning anything. I think we are on the up and have a real chance of winning something the next two seasons. Hudds is all up in the air, likely to play championship this season, who knows what the new coach will be like, if he wants to play in big games and in front of big crowds the next few years there is only one choice, he needs to look at what Crabtree and Brough have won in there careers.

Please don't do that, nearly spat my coffee all over the keyboard and split my sides laughing!!

Are we going to have a bunfight about which side is the least crap in recent history?


If we are talking about winning things, ambition would be joining Wigan or Leeds (oops!). Anyway, whatever happens with Connor will happen and I hope Hull do well this season for Yorkshire.

Great response, if you don't agree then argue the points and tell which of my points wrong in your opinion.

In the past few seasons I would agree, that's why I understood Briscoe going to Leeds (something Crabtree should have done 8 years ago) but I am confident with what we are building, which had taken Pearson and Radford 3 years hard work that we will now challenge the next few years.

Anyway I don't expect you to agree and I am going off topic, we wil have to see what happens.

Thanks for the nice ending and I hope ( think you will easy) retain your SL status.

I know these comments are only your opinion but I was just commenting on how they made me feel on reading them. The bit about probably playing in the championship was surely going to be subject to conjecture?

I love how your comment on Crabtree and Brough 'wasted careers' Who in you're team has won anything at hull? Yeaman? One challenge cup? Briscoe flew the nest to Leedsl and has one 2 challenge cups and a grand final, don't get your idea that all of a sudden the big flyers in super league. We're having a bad season, all can change next year!

Mate if you can't be optimistic about your own team's chances then you may as well turn it in! I'm just trying to be objective. If you win a trophy it will be well deserved.

As I've put above, very unlikely, but who would have thought you would be where you are now and if I had come on here at the start of the arson suggesting it you would have mocked me even more, the rest of the post is pretty fair IMO, particularly the Crabtree part.

Totally agree we have under performed in the past, and some Hull players may have been better moving clubs, hopefully this is changing now and I really think we will come very close to winning something in the next two years(we are more or less 80 mins on two games from two finals)

Too right, anyway that's me done for a couple of days as going away, by the time I come back I hope

You have beaten Rovers
We have beaten Leeds
And the Connor situation is sorted.

Arson, who's committed arson? I know Hull are a bit on fire at the moment but not sure they've committed Arson?

Well you will no longer be a superleague team in 3 weeks

Does that mean we will be a championship team, or have I missed something?

Anyway Peggy I'm sure you have better things to do than bickering who's got the best team at the moment, I know I have so your opinions are yours alone and I respect them, and mine are mine. We shall see where we are come September so until then I'll leave you with your opinion.

Not sure if you noticed or not last season, but on RL fans the bottom 4 clubs leave the SL teams and amalgamate with the top 4 championship clubs to form a separate division, that's probably what he mean't.