What have you been watching the last two games have been abysmal that's not disinterest it's giving up valuable weekend time and twenty odd quid to watch a team of soft headless chickens with a coach that can't seem to fix it that's nowt to do with not deserving a club it's about investment and return like all sports we have been poor for one and a half seasons but last season we found a way out but now the chickens home to roost and we find out what we are all made of.

I would agree with all that and add that the players are supposed to improve not go backwards.

He picks the players and the team and tactics that he thinks will do a job and get us the win.
Sometimes that doesn't work out, sometimes it does.
He is responsible for results on the field ultimately, but like i said, the bad start to the season is not really about what he can and can't do. yes he can pick different teams and tell players to do certain jobs, but then it is upto the players to go and do that job to the best of their abilities. if a player doesn't do that, then what? he drops him? even if that had been an option this season,but it hasn't really. do we then replace him with someone who has no experience at this level and expect him to be better?

I'm not really sure what you're point is?

I completely agree with you mate, I was being ironic.

My point is this Meast, All these things that you have listed he seems to be failing at miserably.

Half his job is to get the team up mentally, and get them wanting to play for the club, Now if that was an odd player here or there fair enough, but It's the whole team, so obviously something isn't right.
Who's job is it to stop the team giving away endless stupid unnecessary penalties, I think we topped the league last season and nothing has changed this season yet, so nothing's changed there has it.
Where are our offloaders, Oh that's right we don't have any do we, Isn't that anything to do with the coaching then.
If we manage to beat Salford on Monday, there will be people touting him for England coach, and saying things like where are all the whingers now. And T smith didn't have experience at this level, but he did a lot better than we have now.

Jumbuck, how do you know the whole team don't want to play for the club? that's a bit of a drastic claim.

How does he physically stop the players giving away penalties? once the players are on the field a coach can't control what they do, sometimes we have to give penalties away to prevent tries been scored, or shall we just let the opposition score at will, that will give people something else to whine about though?
Offloads, I'm not sure if offloads are really relevant, as it could be a tactic that we are using for different reasons, as fans, we won't be privy to that.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on matters, even though i don't agree with many on here, but i don't think he is failing miserably, again, down to opinion but it depends on what you term as success as to whether he is failing.
Personally i think the players are failing, themselves, the coaches the fans and most importantly Ken and Jennifer!

Why send him to Honley?

Anderson has done more than enough for him to have a chance. If Brough had 4-5 bad games most wouldn't be calling for him to get dropped but to play on and fix it.
Surely the same rules apply!

He's got us the league leaders and one game away from the grand final in his time here. I can't think of any available coach who could make us go that step further.

He'll have long term plans. He'll still be learning and this is the first time as a coach he's had to deal with an unsettled onfield team.

Worst case scenario let him have the till the end of the season to see how he turns things around.

We can still easily make the 8! That's the priority. We can still do well in the cup. We achieve these goals after such a shocking and disappointing start then that gives us hope for the future, and we all get a better idea of how good our coach is of turning things around.

Could be anywhere so long as it's not the Giants dressing room I was being tongue in cheek

I agree Antony, but i would at least give him more time to turn it around, he deserves that, if things still aren't going well into the summer then look at making a change, but to just sack the coach after the disruptive start to the season is just knee jerking and crazy IMO.

It's not just the losing when Jon Sharp went 0-7 we were only just losing not playing badly.

Last two weeks have been abysmal most fans I know would accept blood and guts losses but not the rubbish we have watched for the last two weeks.

Yesterday we were thrashed by a team that's been bottom of the league and played in last years million pound game unfortunately that's the real perspective.

Bringing in Dan Smith for Kopjack was madness and no doubt will bite us up the bum on Monday.

I'm not a whinger I just want a decent performance for my dollar win or lose even in the really dark days of the 70's and 80's they might not have been blessed with ability but 110% effort made up for the rest and you could genuinely get behind them, it's not that this team don't have talent in Spades they look unfit and disorganised and who else but the Coach should carry the can ??

Why are we playing badly: a poor preseason friendly line up coupled with a new training regime added to a plethora of injuries leading to 5 different half back pairings and 5 different fullbacks (not including change rounds within games due to injuries in those games) Bruno and Murphy playing three different positions, Hinchcliffe woody and taai playing two different positions.
After three games with a settled side if things haven't improved then ill look at it differently.

In the current format three more losses and its middle 8's here we come I shall still go and support but we have hit the brick wall and no new seems to want to reverse back

just what i've been saying Jools, i doubt any coach would be able to cope with, not just the injuries but the disruption they cause. Jerry and Leroy, i think are the only 2 constants. whenever new players come into the team, the others have to get used to him, get to trust him etc, with a settled team, you know your partners, strengths, weaknesses and instincts and can cover for that accordingly, with a different partner, particularly in defence you lose that.
It's one thing having the injuries it's another trying to accommodate the player coming in, when we have a settled side, we are usually fine, we haven't had a settled side all year yet, and we have been lucky ( some will say it's due to quality of conditioning staff etc) that we haven't been hit with major injuries and disruptions until now.
Let's ride it out and assess it when we have a settled team again.

Hi All - Used to post a couple of years ago under jakegiant, back again!

I understand everyone's frustration but we must stick together as a club. I honestly think we will beat Salford on Monday - we hit rock bottom yesterday and I think we will turn things around now.

Smith/Crabtree missing ( 2 first choice props ) Huby not played all season

Dan Smith is 22 as opposed to Kopczak who is 28? I have no doubt Smith will turn out to be a better player than kopczak in a year or 2
I think with a full fit squad we will be fine

Full back is an area we MUST recruit - im really not sure brierley will work as a full back and I hate to say it but jared simpson is just not the answer

Tom Johnstone on the wing for Wakefield would be a good recruit for any super league club

Hi Jake, welcome back

You have some good points there, however the Jury is still out on Smith for me, as you say, he's only 22 and nowhere near the finished product so hopefully his best is yet to come.
I think, as Daz alluded to in another post, we seem to be missing Grixy's organisation at the back, whatever people think of him, he's an experienced player with god organisational skills, which we've missed.
People talking about things not being right, Anderson lost the players etc, but i think it's just down to the disruption we've had and a lack of confidence.
Hopefully a couple more wins will get that back and we can push on, hopefully with a stronger, settled side, until then,grin and bear it or carry on complaining.

I posted on here that it's not just Anderson who is the problem. Mr C O Thewlis is the man who call the shots.
While Anderson has his faults he only does what he is Told. If you look at the last 3 games of last season and this season to date other Coaches would have been sacked. Problems in the dressing room do not help.

Another spin on this is having leaders to lead the guys on the field, to encourage, to organise, to shout and scream.
I was talking to someone connected to the club during the week and he said although we have experienced guys out on the field none of them are 'talkers', as good as they are as players they are quiet on the field and just go about their jobs.

Also, that Brough is a good player but isn't the main man communicative wise.
We have lost our 2 main leaders on the field who were Robbo and Brett Ferres - those were the 2 guys who used to do all the shouting and bollocking and encouraging etc...and obviously Grixy at the back reading the plays sorting out the defence in front of him.

Take those 3 out of the side and you have basically got a team of players with no generals, the players trust the coaching staff and with every club the coach leaves on field stuff to the 'leaders' ....We have lost ours, maybe that explains some of the performances ?

People may want to disagree and think they know better but believe me they won't.

Daz, i agree with that, we've said before and i said it on sunday, we are too quiet, apart from Brough, no one else was organising or talking, compare that with Wakey and they had Moore, Finn, Kirmond, Miller, even the young lads at the back were pointing and shouting.

Everyone has their opinions and unfortunately too many don't see the bigger picture, they just see LLLWLLL and shout for the coach to be sacked.

Well meast, as you point out one win from last 7 outings.
Not good is it. You keep on defending those in charge as you obviously got a vested interest , as your posts show.
We fans will just leave it as our opinion counts for nothing. With the Sky money no need for fans money.??.

Excuse after excuse after excuse is all I am reading.

What will it take for people to realise we really are in the doo doo?

If we lose in the million pound game we have had it and before the excuses start again it really is a reality!!!!!!

Where are the excuses?
As far as i can see there are people's opinion's on what the problems are, why we're struggling, etc etc, it's forum to discuss such things, we don't need excuses, we know, the coaches know, the players know we haven't been anywhere near good enough, and yes we are struggling at the moment.

What tripe, how have i got a vested interest in those in charge?
I am a fan,who goes to every home and away game, a long time fan who cares a lot about this club, i want what is best for the club, and my opinion is that sacking the head coach is not in the best interest of the club, you may not agree with it ,but that is my opinion.
I haven't defended anybody, i have simply offered my opinions on what the problems are.

I am reading on facebook that we havent had the same halfback pairing, we have injuries, we have had to play the youngsters, Ferres incident, Robbo's retirement, didnt replace Koppy or Hughes, stripped Broughy of captaincy, blah blah blah, need I go on?
We have stumbled season after season in the games that matter, this season we have been found out, no-one fears us and we really are in the doo doo, need something to freshen and fire the whole team up

I am reading on facebook that we havent had the same halfback pairing, we have injuries, we have had to play the youngsters, Ferres incident, Robbo's retirement, didnt replace Koppy or Hughes, stripped Broughy of captaincy, blah blah blah, need I go on?
We have stumbled season after season in the games that matter, this season we have been found out, no-one fears us and we really are in the doo doo, need something to freshen and fire the whole team up'"