Agree....i can't believe that after all the hype around Jared people are having a go at a 19 year old kid in only his 5th game !! he had a bad game and made mistakes ?? so blooming what, he will have lots of bad games and make lot of mistakes - even the worlds greatest who have been at the top for years still do ....let's support the kid ( and all the other players) rather than putting them down and criticising every bad thing they do !!! they are humas not robots, Jared Simpson is a superb prospect and will only improve for us, 1 bad game and 'fans' are on his back already !!!! some days i despair at our fans i really do !!

I agree Daz, BUT i don't think anyone is in Simpsons back are they? Just recognising that as a young learning player he has weaknesses that need addressing or better teams than Wakefield will exploit them. I'm sure he, his team mates and coaches are aware of that. The way he came into the scene he has a lot of hype to live up to and I think he was trying too hard today.

It appears to me that all the people who have a go at other people making a scapegoat out of Grix are doing exactly the same with Simpson!!

And eating humble pie because Cudjoe had better game. Give it a rest! Yes, he did have a decent game, but in highlighting the fact, goes to show that he hasn't been playing at the top of his game recently. I hope it continues.

And the atmosphere was shocking - even worse than normal in the top tier.

And what happened with Big G and his drum in the first half. It looked like someone told him to clear off!!

I am not having a go at Simpson. He is bound to have ups and downs and is a great talent. What frustrates me is people are ready to have a go at Grix for the slightest mistake. Simpson is classed as the new Messiah after 4 games. The fact that teams have now had a chance to look at his strengths and weaknesses always meant life would get harder for him and I am sure he will learn and improve. However Grix needs to play in the big games coming in the next few weeks.

Why must Grix play???

If they see Simpson as the future number 1 then surely he must play. The experiences will bring his development on ten fold.

Grix has never done anything in a so called big game.

Anderson has already shown he's not prepared to risk a trophy at the expense of developing a player- that was clear when Grix played in the last two. It's his risk to take.
As for your last sentence- why don't we just play the 19s ..... Seeing as no player done anything in the big games????

Because he's a kid with five games under his belt. He's a year or two away from being the kind of regular professional that will be the first choice fb, and seven or eight years away from his peak.

When Sam Tomkins was Simpson's age he played in a Cup game against Whitehaven and scored five tries, then spent the rest of the season in Wigan's reserves.

Simpson is one for the future, but Grix should play in the big games coming up.

Because in the big games you play your strongest team and Grix is our best fullback.

Everybody has their opinions. Mine is that Simpson is the better option at full back.

Playing Grix or not playing Grix will not define whether we win a trophy or not. Playing Brough or not playing Brough will.

If we have players in the under 19s who are better than who we have playing 1st team then play them.

But as it stands there is probably only Simpson and Leeming who fit into that.

Simpson will have to play big game rugby at some point. Sooner the better if you ask me. Then next year we will not be having the same debate.

Like I said, it's all opinions. I'm not saying mines right. It's just how I feel.

i don't like picking out individuals in a team performance unless they have had an absolute mare or put in some unbelievable world class performance.

what i will say though is that i do agree on both points regarding grix/simpson
simpson has played 5 games, he wasn't even a squad member a couple of months ago, so it's been a massive jump in quality/physicality and possibly mentality for him, he has the potential to be a very good player, let's not make him out to be some kind of superstar, let him develop naturally, physically, mentally and everything else..he has shown that he can step up if neccesary.....on the other hand, if you don't play him in the bigger games then how does he get the right attributes to become a SL regular? he won't get the intensity needed playing in the 19's every week.
grix on the other hand is battle scarred he's been around for years and is used to the quality, the physical and mental toughness that SL brings..although i don't think he should be the regular full back long term, he's still a good player to have around the squad, and players like simpson can only get better learning from players like grix.

both have different qualities, grix is usually fairly solid, unlike simpson who looks to have more flair about him, i'm sure the coaches know who is the right man to take us into the business end of the season, personally i will support whoever is picked.

Playing Grix or not playing Grix absolutely could define if we win the grand final or not.

Agree with Steve May, Simpson is a good couple of years away from being first choice fullback for me.
I don't understand all the aggro that is caused on here just by somebody posting an opinion, I thought that was the reason for coming on, I have said what I have said about Simpson, that doesn't mean I think Grix should be auto choice, He wouldn't be mine, (Is that having a go at him ? )
It's all opinions at the end of the day, I thought Leroy was probably our best player yesterday, Someone else said Leroy back to his best, For me if that's his best God help us. ( is that having a go at him ? )

The whole team looked as though they were going to do as little as possible to win, If that's good enough for PA fine , I know what S Waine at Wigan would be doing . You can't write a performance like that off by just saying, We won that's what matters, or what do people expect look where we were 20 years ago.
It may be ok for the fans on here who care about nothing except the Giants. There were less that 5,000 people there yesterday, and there will be less still if they keep on performing to the level they have this season, ( We have finished 4th we must have been doing something right ) We have had a good scrambling defence, that's what we have done right . As regards attacking flair and flowing rugby we are nowhere, Without Brough we have nothing to offer, does know body care about the style of football we play, as long as we finish in the top 4.

So yes I agree with the posts about simpson, but you could say that about most of the team yesterday, and if we think that Grix is the answer,( till Simpson either makes it or doesn't ) that shows what our ambitions are, Same goes for all our make do options at halfback.

We have needed a halfback for 10 years, what has our responce been to that ? , Go out and buy ever more forwards and cast off halves from other clubs, Who can all do a job on their day, but are not the players needed by an ambitious club.

I understand the argument that we can't afford better, and never will be able to with crowds of 5,000 But we get the same Sky money as everyone else, we are overloaded with mediocre players who are not good enough, why not get rid of a few and get a decent half with the money. I don't know what it cost to bring Brough but I don't think it would be cheap, It was probably the best money the giants have spent since I have watched them, but they don't seem to have learned any lesson from it.

In response to this-
if people say we got the two points who cares- well that's tbh all many supporters care about-if you win the final you win the trophy despite how badly or well you play- see CC final two years ago!
the performance wasn't good enough for PA - he described it in the post match interview as a "shower of s***" he'd be spot on.
Sadly top class halves and fullbacks aren't growing on trees or in junior clubs around the area.
Even the "top" sides are struggling for a top class "pair". The best pairing is probably dureau and carney- when they ever play together! Would Maguire be good enough? Not for me. A crocked Walsh? how many halves and fullbacks have saints played this season? What is Wigans "top class" pairing?
How many times has the next biggest thing come along, only for it to be a false dawn Myler, Ratchford, Lomax, Wheeler, Gaskell, Shaul, the next billy slater- all going to be world beaters!!!
Until the game grows and more young people take up the sport we are going to struggle to be honest.

Job done got the two points and secured the 4th spot, we were in a lose lose position regarding the scoreline, win by lots and wakey were pants, just win and we were pants!

we were pretty poor though and wakefield showed alot of spirit which i expected

wakey +30 on the handicap was a gift



we never really looked like losing the game.

top 4 at the end of regular season for the 5th time in 7 years i think, its time to get that grand final.

ask yourself if you thought the Giants would get in the top 4 at the start of this season... not many gave us a chance!

look forward to the super 8's now

Don't think PA thought to much of the performance. www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... ts-9732443 " And even though the Giants are now guaranteed a top-four finish, coach Paul Anderson, whose side now have two weeks to rest because of the Challenge Cup, described his side’s display as a “shower of s***”. He added: “I’ve asked the players what do you want - do you want to be in the top four or eight or the grand final? “If it’s the grand final, that (performance) can’t happen again because it was complacent. “I’m not going to mince my words, we were poor. If we want to be in contention we’ve got to be a million miles better than that.” Fair assessment there Paul, however at the end of the day as the saying goes " the buck stops with you". We seem to have lost the plot sometimes when we are attacking, especially in the opposition 20 and rely on Danny to execute his brilliant kicks or look to barge over from close range., Thats all we had yesterday apart from the solo effort from Danny and Ukuma's great line break spoilt by another bad handling eror

Don't think PA thought to much of the performance. www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... ts-9732443 " And even though the Giants are now guaranteed a top-four finish, coach Paul Anderson, whose side now have two weeks to rest because of the Challenge Cup, described his side’s display as a “shower of s***”. He added: “I’ve asked the players what do you want - do you want to be in the top four or eight or the grand final? “If it’s the grand final, that (performance) can’t happen again because it was complacent. “I’m not going to mince my words, we were poor. If we want to be in contention we’ve got to be a million miles better than that.” Fair assessment there Paul, however at the end of the day as the saying goes " the buck stops with you". We seem to have lost the plot sometimes when we are attacking, especially in the opposition 20 and rely on Danny to execute his brilliant kicks or look to barge over from close range., Thats all we had yesterday apart from the solo effort from Danny and Ukuma's great line break spoilt by another bad handling eror

Good post , and some valid points, although clubs like Wigan have some good halves , In the Wigan side they are viewed as nothing special, But look who they are compared to at Wigan, Saint's have had appalling luck with injuries, Yet look at the success they enjoy

My real point was that, Do we even have anyone looking for the type of player we could do with, or is it easier to just pop down the road to the clubs struggling a bit for money and pick up a couple of their players. The reason they are struggling is because their players are not good enough. Top class halves may be thin on the ground, but that could be said of forwards as well , Yet we continue to sign them year on year.

We have Brough and nothing, I'm not just trying to be unkind, I'm trying to be honest, Brough is around 33 years old now, Our plan seems to be when he can no longer do it , we will pop down the road and see what Wakey have ( if they still exist ).

We are improving all the time with young players, but there is no guarantee how many will make the grade and it's a long process.

I want us to win a trophy as much as anyone but it's not the be all and end all for me.
If someone said to me you will win the grand final, and you will play every game like you did yesterday, I wouldn't go to a single game, I just wouldn't pay to watch that kind of Dross, however big the trophy was. I would be very happy for K Davy but that would be it.

Maybe It's my age or because I am a comer in to Huddersfield, But as I have said before I grew up watching classy players at many clubs, Yes it was a different game then, but class is class whatever era.
In my opinion coaching has a lot to do with it, Some players are stars from a very early age ( Roger Millward for eg ) and a few more, some are coached into being very good players ( Leroy and NB ) Who in your honest opinion would you say at the giants is better than they were a couple of years ago.

Thanks for a good response by the way, so much better that just " we won didn't we "

Quote ="yorkieboy52"Don't think PA thought to much of the performance. www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... ts-9732443 " And even though the Giants are now guaranteed a top-four finish, coach Paul Anderson, whose side now have two weeks to rest because of the Challenge Cup, described his side’s display as a “shower of s***”. He added: “I’ve asked the players what do you want - do you want to be in the top four or eight or the grand final? “If it’s the grand final, that (performance) can’t happen again because it was complacent. “I’m not going to mince my words, we were poor. If we want to be in contention we’ve got to be a million miles better than that.” Fair assessment there Paul, however at the end of the day as the saying goes " the buck stops with you". We seem to have lost the plot sometimes when we are attacking, especially in the opposition 20 and rely on Danny to execute his brilliant kicks or look to barge over from close range., Thats all we had yesterday apart from the solo effort from Danny and Ukuma's great line break spoilt by another bad handling eror'" It is depressing to keep reading what PA says in the Examiner. I know he has to say something, but for heavens sake the Buck really does stop with him. I don't want to hear him telling me he has asked the player what they want, He is the coach he should be telling them what HE wants. " I'm not going to mince my words, we were poor ", I know we were poor I paid for the pleasure of witnessing it, and I took some one with me. (who was somewhat disappointed ) He on the other hand got paid to witness it. He would be better keeping his head down and doing something about it , rather than trying to convince us how tough on them he is.

Quote ="yorkieboy52"Don't think PA thought to much of the performance. www.examiner.co.uk/sport/rugby-l ... ts-9732443 " And even though the Giants are now guaranteed a top-four finish, coach Paul Anderson, whose side now have two weeks to rest because of the Challenge Cup, described his side’s display as a “shower of s***”. He added: “I’ve asked the players what do you want - do you want to be in the top four or eight or the grand final? “If it’s the grand final, that (performance) can’t happen again because it was complacent. “I’m not going to mince my words, we were poor. If we want to be in contention we’ve got to be a million miles better than that.” Fair assessment there Paul, however at the end of the day as the saying goes " the buck stops with you". We seem to have lost the plot sometimes when we are attacking, especially in the opposition 20 and rely on Danny to execute his brilliant kicks or look to barge over from close range., Thats all we had yesterday apart from the solo effort from Danny and Ukuma's great line break spoilt by another bad handling eror'" It is depressing to keep reading what PA says in the Examiner. I know he has to say something, but for heavens sake the Buck really does stop with him. I don't want to hear him telling me he has asked the player what they want, He is the coach he should be telling them what HE wants. " I'm not going to mince my words, we were poor ", I know we were poor I paid for the pleasure of witnessing it, and I took some one with me. (who was somewhat disappointed ) He on the other hand got paid to witness it. He would be better keeping his head down and doing something about it , rather than trying to convince us how tough on them he is.

Id say jerry, wardle, connor, leeming, taai (although not sure about pre giants) and ferres are better players than they were a couple of years ago.
we should not have let Greg McNally go IMO, he could be doing a very solid job for us at FB now but wasn't given a chance by NB (who clearly knows nothing about FBs).
top class halves are thinner on the ground than forwards as decent forwards can always be gotten from the southern hemisphere - plus -who knows how many halves we've tried to recruit and failed!!!!!

As for what PA says to the Examiner - I would like to propose its very different from what is said to the players!!!!!

Very fair assessment about the players who have improved over the last couple years and as for Greg McNally absolutely spot on, the kid never got any chance whatsoever. You are probably right about PA being a bit more blunt with the players in private, though saying is was a shower of s***, may have only been expanded on with a few choice expletives.

tbh i think murphy would b the best t play at full back solid runner of the ball n can tackle well above his weight

What about the King brothers. Both playing regularlarly for wire. In exchange for them we got Mick Learmonth who has now signed for York on a permanent basis.

This to me is a bigger balls up than mcnally.

We might see how he goes next year in super league, but at the time of leaving he was nowhere near a super league player.

Where as the kings have done it within a season of leaving us.

To be honest I do not consider the regular season to be over until these last 7 games are done and dusted. If we finish 4th or better after that it will be 5 in 7 if we don't I do not think we can claim any such credit and to be honest I think 4th had to be the minimum hope at the season start though perhaps Wire's problems have helped us after our start it is still a good achievement but will count for nothing if we don't stay there.

Where the king's ever on a full time contract. I doubt it. Therefore I doubt they were exchanged for anyone. They look ok but nothing special. I still ask who the Giants have released in the last 10 years who have become top super league players elsewhere.

Chris bridge was released by giants saying he wasn't good enough