Jools
l am very aware about international politics, but l don,t think you want to go there, people in many third world countries are given the option to vote for an obnoxious regime backed by a government that is backed by a government not too far away from where you are sitting right now.
Why should l be greatful for being given a choice, when my choice gets me absolutely nothing. According to you, today there are 4 million bigots who voted last night, yet they have only 1 voice in Parliament, before you berate me l am not a UKIP supporter, for what its worth l voted Green, but UKIP came third in the popular vote 13% yet will be swamped by the SNP, Lib Dems, DUP, etc. in tems of representation, even though none of these parties even came close to the number of votes UKIP got.
The system is rotten to the core, l now look forward to the referendum on the EU, l anticipate in true British fashion it will be full of fudges, grey area,s, loopholes, so as the british electorate will not know whether they are punched, bored, or countersunk, yes we will have a choice, but will anyone outside the chattering classes really understand them, we will see.

Well, who predicted a Tory majority ?

Good news to wake up too today with a conservative majority



labour got wiped out in scotland and lost seast in England too! Lib dems had a nightmare and Ukip didnt do as well as they wanted but still got the 3rd most votes of all parties.

Bye bye Ed, russel brand might take you on.

60% turnout... not great.

And absolutely I agree that the voting system is ridiculous- And there indeed you have hit the nail on the head- if people are apathetic about their vote- then the system will reflect that- if people take their vote seriously it can be use to change the system!!!!

The fact that a Scottish minority of just 1.5million people will be represented in our parliament by 56 MPs is both ridiculous and worrying. I wouldn't be crowing about that if I were you brearley!!!

whos crowing about the SNP? better a conservative majority than a labour/snp coilition, that would have been even worse!

Scotland voted not to leave the UK recently so they will have to stick with us now.

the voting system def needs a reform.

Think Scotland have hit the jackpot as the Tories just need to keep pumping money into the country, the SNP take the credit and Labour will never get a sniff again and as the Conservatives are already shut out there they can give it up as in essence loss a leader if it means Labour will never get a sniff at another General Election win.

Quote ="brearley84"whos crowing about the SNP? better a conservative majority than a labour/snp coilition, that would have been even worse! Scotland voted not to leave the UK recently so they will have to stick with us now. the voting system def needs a reform.'" You can sign a petition for electoral reform here action.makeseatsmatchvotes.org/e ... ng.id=msmv

Quote ="brearley84"whos crowing about the SNP? better a conservative majority than a labour/snp coilition, that would have been even worse! Scotland voted not to leave the UK recently so they will have to stick with us now. the voting system def needs a reform.'" You can sign a petition for electoral reform here action.makeseatsmatchvotes.org/e ... ng.id=msmv

Started this thread as a joke for the people on here who know me and the way I live, and I've been amazed with the debate. the number of people replying on it has made it a mass-debate (had to get that one in

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Now it's all over for the next 5yrs and I'll live with the choices you made and stay as an offshore (in a way) tax dodger

Bang on. It's the same across any city or town in Britain, a lazy homegrown underclass that is being added to by an army of unemployed immigrants dragging their small army of children down to town to spend the taxpayers hard earned money. The thing is, nobody deserves money for doing absolutely nothing. There is litter blowing around the city streets that these people should be out clearing for their dough. If a man receives the equivalent of £200 per week in paid accommodation and benefits he should be out clearing litter all week for his money, why should he get everything for nothing ? There's plenty needs fixing in this country, and the army of loafers out there should be doing there bit to fix it. Don't listen to Jools, she talks nonsense.

When have I said that benefits shouldn't be earned (where possible of course). And this army of unemployed immigrants - is that the same army of immigrants that come over here and take all our jobs???

perhaps you need to learn the truth rather than listen to the sensational right wing rhetoric about immigrants and benefits they do (not) get.

I don't need to learn anything thanks, I grew up initially in the most culturally diverse area of Leeds before moving onto one of the biggest council estates in Yorkshire, I know how things work, and I also know how some people won't work. The army of unemployed immigrants is there, just take off your rose tinted left wing spectacles and you can see them walking around quite happily all day, Leeds has an unbelievable number of
Africans that has gobbled up large swathes of council housing that I and others pay for every week. There are hard working immigrants, and there are lazy immigrants, that is human nature unfortunately. People like you start to sound really daft when you kid this isn't the case. As for your claim about "UKIP bigots", you're more than entitled to your opinion about millions of people, but if you actually met a few of them you would find most are hard working law abiding people that pay there way to keep this country afloat. I'd much rather have them than the scrote that doesn't get up till 11AM, has the scruffiest house and garden in the street despite having all day to sort it out, and is sat drinking his Superstrength lager on his old sofa in the garden when you come home from a days graft. And yes, you can tell the lazy chavs and pram faces just by looking at them, unless you have your rose tinted left wing spectacles on.

As the daughter of an immigrant I think I can speak from personal experience regarding bigots and bigoted ideas regarding immigrants.