Everyone keeps saying thewlis is a shrewd business man- paying 95k a year for an (at best) average prop, and letting a star name go to aus for nothing - pants pulled down twice there Richard!

In what relevance ?

This episode has cost us another £167,000 - that could have gone towards 2 or 3 players wages in the coming years.

Indeed. But that £120k of cap would have been freed up regardless.

It has to happen. Simply has to.

How so? I'm not sure I follow.

Sorry Ginger... I meant regardless of the Mason situation.

I agree. Not only do we need someone to keep us on the right track, but someone who can push us up to the next level.

Yeah that's what I mean. O'Donnell left, leaving £120k of cap this and next year. Though some of it will be accounted for with improved contracts form the Academy and the likes of Wood, there should still be quite a bit free.

Plus we have Dale Ferguson departing for the Bulls next season, who we seem to have offered an excellent contract to earlier this year? So surely there must be money available in terms of being under the cap.

Whether we have enough money to spend up to the cap in the first place is another and just as important matter.

A management change is required I think for such a major error in judgement as this.

Not to mention a new legal advisor!

Sounds like it could be a costly mistake.

Does this cock up explain why Eden had to go I wonder!

And does it count against the cap-can it do so if he has no playing contract and hasn't been for any of this season- if so how does it also count on castlefords?

There are two seperate issues here that make the club look totally unprofessional. Not only Mason's sacking but the signing of Kopczak. Also add to this other poor decisions such as the Brett Hodgson leaving fiasco and the whole joke with Nathan Brown last season then it is very clear this club is been managed in a disastorous fashion.

Shame, innit? Hope Ferguson goes well for you next year- he left us for the Huddersfield Vultures when we went bust

Well done Bungalow!

It's always encouraging on those occasions when justice is served.

They're like flies round sh*te aren't they...!

Are you implying that you're the......., oh I see, and for once I agree with you!

Simple things please simple minds don't they. Have a biscuit lad, you've earned it. There's a good boy...

One word people....

INSURANCE.

How funny that Wakey and bulls fans come on here to have a dig about financial issues! Bulls chairman is about as unprofessional as they come going by his twitter account- and Wakey have enough CCJs filed against them they could use them to keep their stadium in toilet paper for a whole season.... Which would make a pleasant change.

Yet another disaster Thewlis is the man in charge proved in a court of law we have made another shambles for goodness sake Ken sack him and get someone in who can manage a business !

Okay. Three words....

Legal Expense Insurance.

I refer to the post I wrote earlier in the thread. This case will have been underwritten by a policy.

I think you misunderstand, its NOT the financial aspects of this sorry affair that carry most significance. Its the fact that the Giants have been shown to be underhand, lacking in ethics and morality, duplicitous, two-faced - call it as you will. The fact that the court case confirms Bradfords suspicions that he was tapped up, and that the RFL apparently knew and kept quiet about it exacerbate the stink around this whole sorry affair, and the fact that the Giants constructed a cack-handed excuse to sack him is beyond the pale.

All in all, the financial ramifications will be short lived, its the stain on your clubs reputation that will be harder to clear.

Like a stain gained by not paying your debts?

Does it cover willful disregard of the law?

The money is the least of your worries, apart from its affect on your cap for the next year or two.

I have no doubt insurance will cover it but I partially agre with the wakey fan in that the whole shambles is shocking news and Thewlis should be dismissed as the MD or relegated to a much junior position in the business sorry its harsh but remember its a business folks !