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| Quote ="Danril"Given that Hull didn't concede a penalty for the first 60mins I'm not surprised at your opinion!'"
it doesn't have to be penalties though does it? a couple of key decisions going against us, one where you scored a try off!
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| Quote ="number 6"sitting directly behind the goal when mcdonnell was ruled to have been trapped in goal was the wrong decision imo and the game changer, we had just gone in front and it was a huge call by bentham as from his waist up, mcdonnell was over the line! i thought huuds got a few kind calls last night, the crooks no try should've been a drop out from the giants as the giants player who jumped seem to knock on slightly before crooks did, correct decision to not allow the try, wrong decision for tap on the 20! numerous times it was replayed on the screen! as for briscoes' ruled out try, correct call but 99 times out of 100, that would have been given!
thought fc more than matched hudds big powerful pack but it was the clinical finishing that we missed and giants had, no complaints on the result!'"
Not quite waist up but his upper body definitely was over the line- but as I asked earlier can anyone clarify whether the ball carrying arm has to be down in the field of play be because his never was.
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| Quote ="number 6"it doesn't have to be penalties though does it? a couple of key decisions going against us, one where you scored a try off!'"
Equally you have to tot up everything and not just what you perceive to have gone against you.
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| not sure wether this is right or not but if the player is tackled by the touchline and his upper body is out and legs and arms are infield then he is still in play, so if you apply that to the incident under the posts then the ref is correct because his lower body is in goal and his upper body off the floor to me bentham got it correct, overall thought he reffed fairly well got all the big calls right.
As for the game thought we were just the better side, hull played well but as previously this year when seen them on sky the seem to fade in last 20 minutes, whereas we seemed to get stronger, i thought we kicked on when fielden and crabtree came back on, murph mom for me he was superb.
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| Quote ="goodie"not sure wether this is right or not but if the player is tackled by the touchline and his upper body is out and legs and arms are infield then he is still in play, so if you apply that to the incident under the posts then the ref is correct because his lower body is in goal and his upper body off the floor to me bentham got it correct, overall thought he reffed fairly well got all the big calls right.
As for the game thought we were just the better side, hull played well but as previously this year when seen them on sky the seem to fade in last 20 minutes, whereas we seemed to get stronger, i thought we kicked on when fielden and crabtree came back on, murph mom for me he was superb.'"
disagree about fading in the last 20! briscoes' try was ruled out with 5 or 6 minutes left, just unfortunate it went slightly forward!
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| SLIGHTLY ????? it was on the Mirfield border before he caught it !!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"SLIGHTLY ????? it was on the Mirfield border before he caught it !!
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It would have to be for that touch judge to see it. Surprisingly he missed one right under his nose.
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| To be fair that touchjudge was on his comms to Bentham as soon as the pass was made, it wasn't a delayed decision cos i looked straight down to him to see if he was calling it cos Bentham clearly wasn't going to.
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| Quote ="jools"Just on that drop out point. Not sure whether anyone can clarify the rules here, McDonnell jumped from the field of play to in goal to catch the kick so not caught clean ingoal- when he tried to run the ball out he was tackled on his back and although his upper body was over the line his ball carrying arm / ball I don't think hit the floor over the line. So is this like a "held up" call in reverse which is why the drop was given- or was it just a mistake.'"
as i saw it,the ball wasn't grounded therefore mcdonnell got the ball back into play.we got away with that one
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| Quote ="number 6"sitting directly behind the goal when mcdonnell was ruled to have been trapped in goal was the wrong decision imo and the game changer, we had just gone in front and it was a huge call by bentham as from his waist up, mcdonnell was over the line! i thought huuds got a few kind calls last night, the crooks no try should've been a drop out from the giants as the giants player who jumped seem to knock on slightly before crooks did, correct decision to not allow the try, wrong decision for tap on the 20! numerous times it was replayed on the screen! as for briscoes' ruled out try, correct call but 99 times out of 100, that would have been given!
thought fc more than matched hudds big powerful pack but it was the clinical finishing that we missed and giants had, no complaints on the result!'"
spot on with the last part pal!
as for the calls, crooks knocked on,i could see clearly from my view side on,20 restart was right as the ball was adjudged to have gone dead from a hull player.
the briscoe try was yards forward mate,again from a side on view we clearly saw it travel forward from the moment it's flight started.
as i've said the only thing i think the officials got wrong was the mcdonnell incident.
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| Quote ="Hobsons Knees"I bet you'd find it a talking point though if they had been 20k there. Crowds like this for the top of "Super" League are very embarrassing for the sport. Roll on when the mighty bulls rise from the ashes and we'll get those glory days of 20k packing Odsal again. In the meantime, Huddersfield should accept that they're a soccer town and know their rightful place in this sport ..... the Championship, and I hope the RL heiracy will take the appropriate action when handing out the next round of franchises ...... I'm not trying to cause trouble here, only stating the obvious!'"
7,800 at bradford today for a sunday afternoon
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| Quote ="meast"7,800 at bradford today for a sunday afternoon
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Surely not, they were playing Hull KR, there must have been at least 50,000 away fans.
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| Yup the difference between a championshop club and a top draw super league side 2000 fans massive effort from the bulls faithful! Well done you!
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| Watching the tv replay they got that spot on too
Ref was in a perfect spot and the ball didn't cross the goal line, and if it did it was pulled back over by McDonald so it wasn't stolen
Right call
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| They also got the Wardle pass inside for his try wrong. Cant remember who he gave it to (grix??) before he got it back off him - that pass inside was a good yard forward.
No complaints on the result - our forwards went well, some young lads in that pack - but we are just not clicking in defence - we seem to be relying on Briscoe, McDonnell or Lineham to create something from nothing, which they all did (or nearly did) at times on the night
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| The pass from Ferres to Wardle was borderline but Wardle was behind Ferres when it was passed and both players were moving at full tilt
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| Quote ="Code13"The pass from Ferres to Wardle was borderline but Wardle was behind Ferres when it was passed and both players were moving at full tilt'"
it must be hard work for refs to judge a pass that is borderline.its easy on tv but on the pitch its hard work
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| hull are abit like us where they have strong running back.. mcgillvary and briscoe run it back well.
the touch judge tried his hardest for hull fc, first half making bentham go to the screen after bentham had said the 'try' was offside... then a knock on showed on the screen too
then to top it the same touch judge didnt give a forward pass for the other 'try'.. the touch judge on the other side of the pitch had to give it
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| Quote ="brearley84"then to top it the same touch judge didnt give a forward pass for the other 'try'.. the touch judge on the other side of the pitch had to give it
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From the far side, I thought you'd get a better perspective on it and may, counter-intuitively, been a better place to make the call from. Fundamentally though, the three on-field officials used the available systems to confer with one another and make the right decision.
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| Quote ="John_D"From the far side, I thought you'd get a better perspective on it and may, counter-intuitively, been a better place to make the call from. Fundamentally though, the three on-field officials used the available systems to confer with one another and make the right decision.'"
Good point well put if the ref is not certain use his touch judges and he should be praised for doing so and perhaps the first touch judge told him he thought it was forward but wasn't sure so get the other one involved and try to get the right call.
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| as long as its same for both teams mr bentham please...
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| The fact that all the officials confer and use all the tech they have to get a call right sets them above other sports.
We shouldnt question them when they do that and get it right, but wonder why they dont do it all the time
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| Quote ="Code13"The fact that all the officials confer and use all the tech they have to get a call right sets them above other sports.
We shouldnt question them when they do that and get it right, but wonder why they dont do it all the time'"
I like the Australian method where the referee gives his decision (try or no try) and the video referee can only over rule if there is conclusive evidence the call was wrong. To be fair most of the referees calls are shown to be correct after the video referee's decision and it stops the buck passing so often seen in this country.
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Interesting reading.
Danny Houghton 61 tackles Thats more than I made in three seasons
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Interesting reading.
Danny Houghton 61 tackles Thats more than I made in three seasons
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