the players didnt want to play the systems that nathan brown had put in place. thats what went on at cas game, then it was the semi final...

grix went to full back and kev brown partnered brough.

saying kev brown wasnt interested and gave up as our captain is an insult to him and his time at the giants..for which he played a massive part in getting us where we are now.

we did have leadership and experience problems last season though... we now have fielden and kopzchak to help out here now

It isn't an insult, it's an observation and an accurate one at that. The reason for it is to an extent immaterial. Didn't believe in the systems, injured etc, all tinsel. He gave up, as did several others and that's the tall and short of it. You may deem it insulting to Kevin Brown but strangely have no qualms about ripping sheets off Nathan Brown who was just as important in the teams progress if not more. You have to give it to them all, good and bad. Kopczak for me won't provide any leadership but Fielden will. LO'D is IMO the closest thing we have to a leader because he sets an example with his enthusiasm.

Fielden will bring a lot to the side and will help the younger players including Kopczak.
As For the rest you're spot on.

Cheers for this. I haven't bought my season ticket as yet 'cos my lad said he'd buy it for me for some work I've done for him but I'm still waiting.
He's bought his and I'll make sure he buys mine before end of Nov.

I tought I'd come back and have a quick look to see if I got any responses to my original post. Seems it's provoked a bit of debate.



I'm still disappointed by having to go to plan B. i.e. not signing a stand off. As i said originally Luke Robinson has the heart of a bull and will give 110% to the cause. But the fact remains this wasn't Paul Anderson's Plan A.

I'm still looking forward to next season but the fact remains we need a bl00dy stand off. Problem is a good one is like rocking horse .

Together we are Huddersfield - 'united we are Giants'

well cant say they didnt try to get a stand off in, even money bags hull fc struggled but they did get one in holdsworth.. wigan got blake and smith.

plan B will have to do and i think it will be fine.. robinson and brough is as good as any team in super league?

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ord-Tigers See this for Lee Gilmours take on last season. Unlike a lot of posters on here I think Luke Robinson has a very good kicking game. Maybe not as good as some but certainly a very useful kick.

www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ord-Tigers See this for Lee Gilmours take on last season. Unlike a lot of posters on here I think Luke Robinson has a very good kicking game. Maybe not as good as some but certainly a very useful kick.

I'm 100% sure they had a good go at getting a stand off - just disappointed it didn't come off.

Brough / Robinson will give any team a run for their money - but will they do it consistently enough over the season to bring some silverware to the Giants and what if ether gets injured? Just as an example Wire have Briers, O'Brien, Ratchford and Myler - I believe we needed that extra quality player to start the game alongside Brough with Robbo coming off the bench to scoot at a tyring team.

I'm not being pessimistic just realistic. I still believe we'll go better than last year and the forwards will give the backs a better platform to work with. The big plus for me is that with some proper props the likes of Chan, Patrick, Ferres, Ukama and O'Donnell will be able to do some damage around the edges like Manu and Moa.

Let's face it 80 mins of crap RL still beats anything any other sport can offer. I can spend £50 easy just going out for a meal with the better half (with drinks

). £200 for 13 X 80 mins of real action is a bargain.

This sums up my thoughts on our creativity far more eloquently that I could muster.
We do have our last stand off as assistant coach so lets hope he can up our current backs game.

Well said that man. Just remember, as bad as we may play, it'll still be more exciting than the best puffball game there's ever been.

i was disappointed too it didnt come off.

i suppose if brough or robbo get injured then grix will fill in.

if we kept robbo on the bench then lunt or faiumu would have to miss out and this is no good, we need all our best players on the pitch, this scenario allows us to do so.

like the thought of chan/ferres/taai and odonnell doing some damage on the outside

manu is top class player, nathan brown nabbed him!

I think this switch around in the halves is a gamble myself,I hope it comes off but need to be convinced very early on in the campaign.

It's hardly a gamble, they have played in those positions before.

I don't recall Brough playing as second receiver (pivot) before for us,charged with putting players into gaps in the style of a Finch or a Briers.IMO his best attributes at 7 were his kicking game,and also his quick feet,that could see him step around players rushing up at him.Often thought his picking of the correct runner out wide, if the halves were split,was an aspect of his game that needed some work.

Robinson not so much of a gamble admittedly,the kicking game obviously not as strong though.

does anyone else think as i do that a new half back isnt dead just yet and 4 or 5 matches into the new season they might sign one agents here and in aus know we are on the lookout so when teams get settled just maybe a quality one may come available

will have to wait and see...

I've been saying for ages i reckon we're going to make a signing after the season starts ala Stanley Gene/Liam Fulton...i dont think we will just 'give up' looking for a half back and accept what we have if we have cap space !

They've stated who are going to be the halves,so let's go with that.They have all this pre-season to practice their combinations.Plus halves are only as good as the lines and options coming off them.So plenty of work for the coaching staff there.

Gaskell has been given the number 20 shirt at saints- so it doesn't look as if NB sees him in the starting lineup. Shame as he could have been playing every week for us!

He'll soon be propping for Saints, don't worry

Robbo has not got the best kicking game but he is very capable of kicking a ball. He might not be as good as brough but I know robbo is working very hard on his kicking game and with brough and thorman there to help I am sure he will be ok.

Brough played stand off a few games last season and if he goes to 2nd receiver then it means he has that extra 2 seconds and we all know what he can do with time and ball in hand.

seems brown didnt want us to have him



nevermind, robbo and brough is still very good combo

Brearley it appears saints don't want to allow decent players to go and improve their opposition-perhaps a case of once bitten NB?

Who knows we might even see Broughy still controlling from first receiver and Robbo a pass further out trying to put people into spaces.That scenario would take a lot of pressure off Luke's kicking game,and he could look to show & go as he is very quick off the mark as we know.