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| Quote ="the stella kid"Yes Lunt has only had short spells on the pitch and is still missing 10% of his tackles.
With the style of play been used this year in which we are effecitivly using three half backs at the expense of a forward it is vital the rest of the pack put in a big defencive effort.
I so think Moore has the better all round game than Lunt[u i am just not sure it would be a good move because of his attitude and past record [/ubut if that is what Nathan Brown wants then who am i to argue.'"
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| on moore being a bad lad... if nathan brown can sort brough and mason out he can sort anybody out.
moore would be an extra string to our attack...we have lost lee afterall
regarding lunt, yes a good player but not hit the heights of his first season with us im afraid for whatever reason
would be surprised if he goes though...depends on the salary cap i guess and how much space we have left..cant see moore being on a big whack and prob only get a one year deal
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| End of the day the coach knows his players, those that want to wear the shirt or play elsewhere.
Moore knows browny doesnt take any prisoners, he will play for the team. Maybe robbo needs to re charge he's batterys too....who knows he puts his body on the line every week for the cause.
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| This is a fantastic signing and one which will truly help us going for trophy's this season
Scott came to the Giants last time after being stagnant at Castleford, and had 2 years left on his current saints contract. He came to the Giants in 2009 and how anyone can say he ran crab like along the line and threw a panic pass is beyond me! He went back to saints and wasn't used right, he moved in with a bad crowd at Widnes, and he's now in last chance saloon. He's got friends at the club also.
Huddersfield have had their fair share of bad boys, Lolesi being one of the worst in recent years!
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| He had half a good season with us. And he was also a bit of a tit with the general public. I hope you're right and it does turn out to be a good signing. However, I think I'd be happier if Lunt went on loan and showed form which meant a loan was all it was.
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| No one is doubting his rugby league skills - its his off pitch antics which is more worrying. If brown thinks he can stop this then good luck to him. Moore does not need to convince Nathan Brown of a long term deal its Paul Anderson & Kieran Purtil who has also worked with him at Giants & Saints.
I just hope Thewlis/brown & co will ask him to portray himself in better light because his twitter account suggest not - Its one big party!!! Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying he cannot enjoy himself but don't broadcast it to the world.
We also have a very stable squad but I'm personally gutted to lose Lunt for Moore - I really hope Lunt get himself a good deal if rumoured at Leeds and I wish him all the very best!!
As for moore he needs to win me over....
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| tommy lee and luke are out first choice hookers atm so does this mean that we basically signing him to sit in the same seat shaun lunt is atm as i feel lunt has more class to be sat in the seat
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| Not sure on this one.
There is no doubting Scott Moores ability but bringing him in at this stage of the season may bring disharmoy to the team. We are looking strong at the moment and team spirit is obviously high.
Scott Moore or Shaun Lunt....... personally I prefer Shaun Lunt. Think he will bring more to the team than Moore but I trust NB's judgement so we'll wait and see.
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| Exactly Trav - with Lee out it was ideal for Lunt to come in and get some game time, Thewlis has said on the OS that he wanted more game time so they have said he can go on loan.......obviously the intention is not there to play him in our side.
As for Scott, i hope this move pays off, cant say i'm over happy but hope NB manages to do 'a Brough' on him.
I'm willing to give Scott a chance.....
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| Quote ="Baron Greenback"He had half a good season with us. And he was also a bit of a tit with the general public. I hope you're right and it does turn out to be a good signing. However, I think I'd be happier if Lunt went on loan and showed form which meant a loan was all it was.'"
Similar BG --but if Lunt`s being singled out cos of a misdemeanour - cant see why he cant turn him round and get him back on track !
Instead he feels he can rehabilitate someone who`s rebelled elsewhere
Cant readily see the difference --and I know which one Id rather see in the team on ability alone
but all will be revealed
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| If shaun doesn't want to play for Huddersfield then what do you do? keep him or sign someone who does
who said Lunt has had any misdemeanour's?
I'd get to specsavers if you feel Lunt it better than a trained Moore. Oh and then of course, there's the money question. As an example, would you take someone who's fighting to keep their rugby league career for say £20k and wants to play for the Giants, or would you keep someone who doesn't want to play for the club, has his mind elsewhere, has his goals set elsewhere, picking up say £80k. Free's up £60k to sign some players up on longer deals
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| Quote ="COCKNEY GIANT"No one is doubting his rugby league skills - its his off pitch antics which is more worrying. If brown thinks he can stop this then good luck to him. Moore does not need to convince Nathan Brown of a long term deal its Paul Anderson & Kieran Purtil who has also worked with him at Giants & Saints.
I just hope Thewlis/brown & co will ask him to portray himself in better light because his twitter account suggest not - Its one big party!!! Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying he cannot enjoy himself but don't broadcast it to the world.
We also have a very stable squad but I'm personally gutted to lose Lunt for Moore - I really hope Lunt get himself a good deal if rumoured at Leeds and I wish him all the very best!!
As for moore he needs to win me over....'"
That sums it up for me. Like I said before I believe in second chances but Moore's career is littered with incidents. That isn't good. Having said that as Steve May says elsewhere, Danny Brough has matured at the Giants and maybe Scott Moore will.
Still while he's wearing a Giants shirt I'll support him.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Unfortunately, if it's true that he has failed an in-house drugs test, then I wouldn't be going near him. Plus why loan one of our assets to Leeds when we are competing with them?
I sometimes wonder who dreams these rumours up....'"
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| lets see what hes like vs Swinton
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| Quote ="GiantsMassive"If shaun doesn't want to play for Huddersfield then what do you do? keep him or sign someone who does
who said Lunt has had any misdemeanour's?
I'd get to specsavers if you feel Lunt it better than a trained Moore. Oh and then of course, there's the money question. As an example, would you take someone who's fighting to keep their rugby league career for say £20k and wants to play for the Giants, or would you keep someone who doesn't want to play for the club, has his mind elsewhere, has his goals set elsewhere, picking up say £80k. Free's up £60k to sign some players up on longer deals'"
shaun lunt is better than scott moore.
shaun lunt wants to play and that is the problem he isnt being picked so his off loan to get some time on the field. the rumour has it that nathan and shaun have had a falling out so when he returns from the loan nathan will be gone.
with tommy lee out and brown not wanting to play lunt signs moore up to end of the season for cover.
im not one for rumours but this does add up
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| I disagree that Lunt is a better player than Moore.
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| Quote ="GiantsMassive"If shaun doesn't want to play for Huddersfield then what do you do? keep him or sign someone who does
who said Lunt has had any misdemeanour's?
I'd get to specsavers if you feel Lunt it better than a trained Moore. Oh and then of course, there's the money question. As an example, would you take someone who's fighting to keep their rugby league career for say £20k and wants to play for the Giants, or would you keep someone who doesn't want to play for the club, has his mind elsewhere, =#FF0000has his goals set elsewhere, picking up say £80k. Free's up £60k to sign some players up on longer deals'"
Bingo.
The Giants statement says that it frees some salary which will allow us to announce some longer term deals.
If this means we sign up EDEN then i am a happy bunny.
Still i wish Lunt all the best and he has been a great player for us. Good luck to him.
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| moore got in the super league dream team when playing for us, get him back to that form and happy days!
its a massive chance for him till the end of the season so he should take it, brown will sort him out, he sorted mason,faalogo,o'donnell and brough out afterall!!!
we havent missed lunt and think he will be on a good wage....frees some space up to sign our talented youngsters longterm...something has to give at the top end of the wages to keep the young ones
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| When Lunt signed his new long term deal to stop him going to Australia he will have had a hefty pay rise.
I would presume that as Moore is been offered what is in effect a last chance offer then his salary will be a lot less.
Eden will have signed on a deal paying him 'peanuts' as he was unproven at this level. He will have increased his value massively. The Giants need to sign him up long term which will involve offering him a vastly improved contract. As the Giants are running on a full cap then funds would need to be freed.
Moving someone on who is in effect third choice in his position and replacing with a player of at least equal ability on a lot less money would seem like one of the least disruptive ways of been able to afford the services of an exceptinally talented full back and at the same time not damaging the strength of the squad.
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| Quote ="GiantsMassive"If shaun doesn't want to play for Huddersfield then what do you do? keep him or sign someone who does
[iYou know more of the full story then?? Fire away!
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who said Lunt has had any misdemeanour's?
Ditto above
I'd get to specsavers if you feel Lunt it better than a trained Moore.
[iIll pop down tomorrow and take a few more posters with me
We might iust get a discount![/i
Oh and then of course, there's the money question.
AAh now we might be close !!
As an example, would you take someone who's fighting to keep their rugby league career for say £20k and wants to play for the Giants,
Not if the player in question is no better (Purely my opinion I would respectfully stress)
As an example - Id first ask WHY hes having to fight to save his career ?
Secondly - there is at this moment I`d say, probably quite a few out there on less money who`d like to play for us !
If its just a money saving exercise -- then lets place an ad!
or would you keep someone who doesn't want to play for the club, has his mind elsewhere, has his goals set elsewhere, picking up say £80k. Free's up £60k to sign some players up on longer deals'"
If theres a deep belief that the bad boy will be "saved" --then Id say we could on the other hand persuade the other that the grass isnt always greener ! Would be the easier option surely?
As for figures -- you seem to be in the know -- so I wont argue with the maths
Like what I said --dont sprinkle crumbs
Spill the beans ! Give us the facts
From previous experience its the only chance supporters will have to form a measured opinion on the situation
Armed with your facts (and my new glasses) - I may ultimately agree with you !
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| is this morse code? dot dash dot?
figures are out of mid air
also could a mod tell me why my original post now has more than what I previously wrote?
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| the stella kid, you are a poster of wise words. I like your way of thinking, i dont know why it says that I need to read the AUP though??????
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| Quote ="the stella kid"When Lunt signed his new long term deal to stop him going to Australia he will have had a hefty pay rise.
I would presume that as Moore is been offered what is in effect a last chance offer then his salary will be a lot less.
Eden will have signed on a deal paying him 'peanuts' as he was unproven at this level. He will have increased his value massively. The Giants need to sign him up long term which will involve offering him a vastly improved contract. As the Giants are running on a full cap then funds would need to be freed.
Moving someone on who is in effect third choice in his position and replacing with a player of at least equal ability on a lot less money would seem like one of the least disruptive ways of been able to afford the services of an exceptinally talented full back and at the same time not damaging the strength of the squad.'"
Man's got a point.
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| Nor me ! (dash) - thought you`d know it off by heart !(wink)
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