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| Quote ="Wadski"You soon changed your spots.
Ha ha ha...'"
Ridiculous replies tbh.
I think it should definately be applauded you've got so many players in the England setup, I was just trying to discuss how many would actually get in the side. The only ones i've really "bagged" was Crabtree as I don't think he's had a particularly good season, and Griffin just because I think Fieldens better.
Where is Cudjoe's best position btw? He's one i'm glad is in the squad as he has the talent and size to make one of the backs positions his own (just not quite yet I think)
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"a046.gif
Pity he plays in a different position though, out of interest why your a master of knowledge on stats how does Tickles Ferris's and Westwoods compare? Il have a guess and say not as well.'"
Careful Bill. Inside man is a stickler re spelling and grammar. He will ridicule your poor use of apostrophes and incorrect spelling of 'your'. And you say 'he plays' when I refer to several players. Who on earth is 'he'?
Using stats is always questionable. I do know the stats on penalties if that is any help to you.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"icon_eek.gif I heard of this but could not believe it.....'"
Heard it where?
And you could not believe that someone rates these players ahead of the sainted Joel? I could understand that you disagree with it. But that you do not have the capacity to believe such a thing is deeply touching. I will pray for you.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Ridiculous replies tbh.
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Do you mean the replies where you resorted to criticising a poster's spelling? I agree it was petty and ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"Heard it where?
And you could not believe that someone rates these players ahead of the sainted Joel? I could understand that you disagree with it. But that you do not have the capacity to believe such a thing is deeply touching. I will pray for you.
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You may think it silly of me to question your opinion, as you get to watch many of our ex players week in, week out. But please remember that you only watch our rejects. Hence my belief that i consider your reasoning flawed.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"Do you mean the replies where you resorted to criticising a poster's spelling? I agree it was petty and ridiculous.
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The spelling of a players name, in the same post as trying to criticise my rugby knowledge. I found it ironic that's all.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"You may think it silly of me to question your opinion, as you get to watch many of our ex players week in, week out. But please remember that you only watch our rejects. Hence my belief that i consider your reasoning flawed.'"
And now you peddle the lame 'Wigan rejects' drivel that was popular with the the intellectually challenged a couple of years ago. Is that the best you have got?
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| Quote ="inside_man"The spelling of a players name, in the same post as trying to criticise my rugby knowledge. I found it ironic that's all.
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The intelligences required for spelling and understanding rugby are not one and the same. People have different intelligences. So there would be irony if I mispelled a name while criticising your spelling. Not the case, so your reply was indeed ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"You may think it silly of me to question your opinion, as you get to watch many of our ex players week in, week out. But please remember that you only watch our rejects. Hence my belief that i consider your reasoning flawed.'"
Was Griffin a Wiganer? Was Crabtree? Was Cudjoe? Was Lunt?
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| Quote ="Code13"Joel, best 2nd row in SL...dont make me laugh. He isnt even the best [iEnglish[/i 2nd row in SL.
for my pick i'd go with Ellis and Burgess in the 2nd row, O'Loughlin at loose forward and starting props of Morley and Griff with Crabtree on the bench with Robbo
Start with Brown at standoff and Cudjoe on the wing.'"
Please tell me this is a joke? That may be the most biased post i have ever seen. You basically want any huddersfield player in the 17? Regardless that there are clearly better options?
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| Quote ="Wadski"You soon changed your spots.
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Inside man is such a dreary wimp that he opened a thread on my comments on the Wigan forum! Obviously desperate for other members of the Joel Tomkins wet dream society to reassure him. He has taken being a softc**k to a new level.
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| Quote ="Ceejames"Inside man is such a dreary wimp that he opened a thread on my comments on the Wigan forum! Obviously desperate for other members of the Joel Tomkins wet dream society to reassure him. He has taken being a softc**k to a new level.
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Sounds wimpish. He didn't have an argument to come back with so went to ask his friends to make one up for him. ROFL.
I knew that as soon as I read his first line, the thread was destined to end in bother.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Please tell me this is a joke? That may be the most biased post i have ever seen. You basically want any huddersfield player in the 17? Regardless that there are clearly better options?'"
Go on then...outline these "better" options to me...
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| Quote ="Code13"Go on then...outline these "better" options to me...'"
Play all of Wigans options first and then consider other players.
If they play for wigan they must be the best. End of.
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| you would have darrell griffin over james graham? Okayyyyyyyyyyy
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Please tell me this is a joke? That may be the most biased post i have ever seen. You basically want any huddersfield player in the 17? Regardless that there are clearly better options?'"
Hey numbnuts ! You're on a Giants Supporters site! What the hell do you expect? That we all should kneel down at the altar of Stains and Wigoon, repeating mantra-like 'We are not worthy, We are not worthy'
Thanks to the salary cap, teams like ours are now able to enjoy the fruits of good off-field management and committed and inspiring coaching.
The days of people like Lindsay and the like, are gone. No more throwing a load of cash at a problem, as Nobby did to get Fielden. It's just a shame that he managed to save them from relegation, but believe me if that had been a possibility Red Hall would have done everything in their power to avert that happening.
Wake up pal this is the age of the Giants, deal with it.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"you would have darrell griffin over james graham? Okayyyyyyyyyyy
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Where has anyone said that?
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| Not me...
Anyway, pro-hudds bias on the Hudds forum, who'd have thought it eh...
anyway Asbo Joel, if he plays, will be the best meter maker on the park...for whoever England play against.
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| Quote ="Code13"Not me...
Anyway, pro-hudds bias on the Hudds forum, who'd have thought it eh...
anyway Asbo Joel, if he plays, will be the best meter maker on the park...for whoever England play against.'"
[url=http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/rugby_league/s/1345384_aussies_will_target_joel_tomkins__bamford?rss=yes&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RugbyLeague-Sport-ManchesterEveningNews-RssFeed+%28Rugby+league+-+Sport+-+Manchester+Evening+News+-+RSS+Feed%29MEN[/url
Quote Joel Tomkins has been told to clean up his act in the Four Nations tournament.
The fiery Wigan Warriors back rower conceded the most penalties in Super League this season – 33 in total – and now Maurice Bamford, the former Great Britain coach, has told him to cool it.
Bamford is a fan of Tomkinsbut says it’s imperative he maintains his on-field composure and listens to coach Steve McNamara.
“This lad Tomkins has a tendency to give penalties away like I sup tea,” Bamford said.
“He does give silly penalties away and it must stop. You just can’t do it at this level.'"
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| Quote ="Code13"Joel, best 2nd row in SL...dont make me laugh. He isnt even the best [iEnglish[/i 2nd row in SL.
for my pick i'd go with Ellis and Burgess in the 2nd row, O'Loughlin at loose forward and starting props of Morley and Griff with Crabtree on the bench with Robbo
Start with Brown at standoff and Cudjoe on the wing.'"
This post of a joke right?
Griffin ahead of Graham!
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| Quote ="Enicomb"This post of a joke right?
Griffin ahead of Graham!'"
Who mentioned Graham?
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| Quote ="Wadski"Where has anyone said that?'"
code 13 on page 3 said it...
here's a snippet
for my pick i'd go with Ellis and Burgess in the 2nd row, O'Loughlin at loose forward and starting props of Morley and Griff with Crabtree on the bench with Robbo
the team should be
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Darrell Goulding
3. Micheal Shenton
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Kevin Brown
8. Sam Burgess
9. James Roby
10. James Graham
11. Ben Westwood
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14. Joel Tomkins
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17. Luke Robinson
impact from the beginning, alot of impact off the bench and a good balanced side!
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| Just as a matter of interest, and this is aimed mostly at any Wigan fans but i would like any body's opinion. At the time of his ban i thought Hock was probably the best SR forward in super league, When he comes back how is this going to effect J Tomkins, Both give their share of Penalties away, but although i think Tomkins is a decent forward, i dont rate him in the same league as Hock was, He was a real line buster, whereas Tomkins seems more of a support player , I think he would make a decent centre myself, And is Mossop likely to become available at all.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Who mentioned Graham?'"
Think that was his point. No one did when they had Griffin starting! Morley and Graham all day long for me with Fielden and Griffin off the bench or would you say Crabtree would be in before Griffin?
As for the Tomkins debate. Someone suggested that Mossop would be a better option that I very much doubt. I would have Ellis and Burgess in my 2nd row all day long with Tomkins off the bench. But then again trying to 2nd guess a coach who thought Manu was an option at one point is abit of a waste of time!
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| Quote ="Blofelds Cat"Just as a matter of interest, and this is aimed mostly at any Wigan fans but i would like any body's opinion. At the time of his ban i thought Hock was probably the best SR forward in super league, When he comes back how is this going to effect J Tomkins, Both give their share of Penalties away, but although i think Tomkins is a decent forward, i dont rate him in the same league as Hock was, He was a real line buster, whereas Tomkins seems more of a support player , I think he would make a decent centre myself, And is Mossop likely to become available at all.'"
Think both Hock and Mossop are being looked at as potential prop options. Tomkins as played in the centres and is to quiet. He needs to be invovled and working
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