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| Quote ="Wadski"Nowt wrong with the on pitch action today Meast. There won't be many better tries scored this season as Jerrys effort.'"
You mean the 'Ole try'
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Ok, i'll probably get some hammer for this but just wanted to see what other people think.
Why have the club decided that having random noises or announcements during the game improve the gameday experience ?.
If its not RHP's voice over the microphone every 2 and a half minutes telling us in case we have forgot from last time who our sponsors are or his attempts at sounding like a boxing MC when announcing the players names etc its that silly Mexican tune - usually played when the ball is back in play and serves no purpose to me, We will rock you blurted through the PA system again at what seems to be random times of the game.
This along with music played as soon as a try is scored, drowning out any attempts of singing the crowd do try and make as there is no point so most of the crowd just sit down and let the music play. And Big G's banging of the drum to the same tune, then letting the kids spend 20 minutes 'freestyle banging' - i know this is a directive of the club and not something Big G himself chooses to do before anyone thinks i' having a go at him.
Maybe its just me and everyone else is fine with it but i personally think all this unnecessary noise has had an effect on what atmosphere there used to be as there seems to be something going off every few minutes which drowns out any crowd noise?.
Today just made me realise how utterly annoying all this noise is, and were we a passionate group of Ice Hockey fans it could work but were not and its cringeworthy to me ........ok , off ya go, shoot me down if you must !!'"
Totally agree with all of this. Particularly about the try music - this only serves to drown out the crowd and any attempt at chanting has no chance. Personally don't see the point unless it is to compliment the fans chants - given that the try music is completely random it just serves as an annoyance. Like Giant Daz I found this really frustrating today - it appears to be getting worse as the home crowd are just giving up trying to contend with it and are losing the battle.
Atmosphere was non existent today - something needs to change.
Can we please not try (no pun intended) to do without the try music for a while and see what happens? or find one tune to play that fans can respond along with at least (something different to that used at other SL clubs)? - and as I have said on here before please find some better walk on music as the team prepares to enter the field - whatever it is that is currently played is pants. We nee dsomehting more inspiring and catchy.
As for Big G and his drum - this sometimes does work to get the Giants chants going - but the random drum banging kids efforts should be stopped whilst the game is on.
As for the "we will rock you" snippets - totally cringeworthy - please STOP IT We ain't the Bulls!!!
RHP has done many good things - but could have a massive impact if the balance of what music and when it is played was improved
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| Good grief do you lot ever stop bloody whining?
If they didn't do anything you'd complain they weren't doing owt, now they are doing something to lift the crowd you gripe about that
I sit with several people who are new to the game who like the music and "ole" and all that
The so called singing section (who did precious little singing today) don't get the crowd lifted, let the in try this instead
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| but its not lifting the crowd though, its doing completely the opposite.
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| and for years they didnt do anything and people were quite happy - the point i'm making is why all of a sudden do the club feel the need to do it ....i'll be honest it spoils my matchday experience and many others around me feel the same.
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| If there was no music there would be deathly silence around much of the ground! We have to remember that a large majority of our crowd are youngsters and families. Whatever the club do (or don't do) there will be some that don't like it- can't please everybody- I suspect that what's being done now is as a response to what a proportion have given positive feedback to.
Some would argue they don't want to listen to inane chanting. Each to their own.
Instead of worrying about whether kids are banging drums or music is or isn't playing do what I do- concentrate on what's going on on the green stuff and celebrate (appropriately) however you see fit whilst others do the same.
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| Quote ="Code13"Good grief do you lot ever stop bloody whining?
If they didn't do anything you'd complain they weren't doing owt, now they are doing something to lift the crowd you gripe about that
I sit with several people who are new to the game who like the music and "ole" and all that
The so called singing section (who did precious little singing today) don't get the crowd lifted, let the in try this instead'"
This
Something needs to be done to make the match have more atmosphere. The fact gates are down and the crowd is spread out makes the atmosphere flatter.
If it was not for the Try music and me an Tansy chanting there would be no atmosphere in the Riverside stand.
Just sit back and complain everyone rather than looking at the reality of the situation. What else can be done to improve the atmosphere and get more fans in .
Oh let me guess you will all say there is nothing we can do except win some silverware. Bunch of bloody defeatists.
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| And those sat around me think differently
Horses for courses
The club want to improve/enhance the game day experience, they might not get it 100% right first time but don't knock em for trying, and don't knock em just cos you don't like it.
Yesterday was a poor game to judge it on, a flat game where the only question was how much we'd win by
Lets see what it's like in a tough, hard fought game
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| I don't like it. For example you could here a whisper of a Bruno chant after Lawrence scored, I am sure that would have grown if the music hadn't drown it out. However, for whatever reason fans have almost given up chants altogether this season. This could be the increase in music or the decrease in fans, but whatever people on here say most fans and players would prefer to hear chants over music. Kids like to dance to the music, but they also like to join in with chants. Players have said time and time again the fans help lift them. How much of a thrill would it have been for Lawrence to hear his nickname chanted by fans on his comeback? To be fair in our case there needs to be a balance. Maybe the club need to speak with fans like Tansey and those at the back of the Kilner bank who sing and see if they can figure something out.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Ok, i'll probably get some hammer for this but just wanted to see what other people think.
Why have the club decided that having random noises or announcements during the game improve the gameday experience ?.
If its not RHP's voice over the microphone every 2 and a half minutes telling us in case we have forgot from last time who our sponsors are or his attempts at sounding like a boxing MC when announcing the players names etc its that silly Mexican tune - usually played when the ball is back in play and serves no purpose to me, We will rock you blurted through the PA system again at what seems to be random times of the game.
This along with music played as soon as a try is scored, drowning out any attempts of singing the crowd do try and make as there is no point so most of the crowd just sit down and let the music play. And Big G's banging of the drum to the same tune, then letting the kids spend 20 minutes 'freestyle banging' - i know this is a directive of the club and not something Big G himself chooses to do before anyone thinks i' having a go at him.
Maybe its just me and everyone else is fine with it but i personally think all this unnecessary noise has had an effect on what atmosphere there used to be as there seems to be something going off every few minutes which drowns out any crowd noise?.
Today just made me realise how utterly annoying all this noise is, and were we a passionate group of Ice Hockey fans it could work but were not and its cringeworthy to me ........ok , off ya go, shoot me down if you must !!'"
i agree, RHP does over do it sometimes.
the 'we will rock you' was cringe and embarressing!
and when we score a try just to get drowned out by the music straight after a try
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| i dont mind the 'ole' mexican tune though, quite like it!
maybe its our fans that have an attitude problem like the players do sometimes and thinking we are going to just win easy..sure if it was leeds or one of the big clubs we would of have more chanting, some fans have the wrong attitude it should be chanting for every game london..catalans whoever
just because it was widnes people couldnt be bothered
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| People are saying about more chanting but this is part of the point i'm making - because of the blasts of music/announcements/random drumming any kind of chant is drowned out immediately so there is no point trying to sing over something booming out over the tannoy.
Like has been said with the Bruno chant, people were shouting it but it just couldnt be heard.
The singers want to sing but at the moment its a losing battle against this Odsal-esque din so they tend not to bother which means people further down dont bother.
I dont mind the 'ole' music itself its just the timing of it - its almost like someone just decided to press a button and play it randomly at 20 minute intervals.
We never used to have music and the atmosphere was loads better as the songs could grow as people joined in.
Also agree with you Brearley about people only singing against teams with bigger away followings. Many times yesterday there was me and maybe 3 others trying to get songs going and no one at all joining in.
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| how does it improve the atmosphere and bring new people in exactly?
people are deserting us in the droves and the atmosphere at home games is poor,and the music and gimmicks are probably a last gasp attempt to get people back.
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| Fans will only return when they see Danny Brough on the town hall balcony with some silverware. As for the "music" totally irrelevant and distracting sound as though someone has accidentaly pushed a button on P.A. (not Paul Anderson)
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| Quote ="meast"how does it improve the atmosphere and bring new people in exactly?
people are deserting us in the droves and the atmosphere at home games is poor,and the music and gimmicks are probably a last gasp attempt to get people back.'"
Because the fans are split into various different groupings old men who remember the 50s, die hards who were there when the team was crap in the 80s and 90s and newcomers.
Many of the newcomers are women and kids and families.
They are the future for the club. The other two groups are the past.
It is always the other two groups who are the ones who moan. They knock the different coloured shirts, they knock the music, they think of Fartown not the Giants, they dont like the halftime entertainment.
The newcomers are the opposite. The kids love the modern music, they like different coloured shirts, they like big G and banging a drum.
There needs to be more done to attract fans and to make the whole day more interesting and FUN.
If it is FUN and exciting parents will pay to bring their kids along to keep them entertained. The balloons last season were really popular for the kids.
£ 24 for an adult seems like a lot. £24 for an adult and two kids seems like a bargain that is the sort of marketing that will get people through the doors
I have repeated ad nauseum things the club could do to add atmosphere AND IMPROVE THE GAME DAY EXPERIENCE with little or no cost but it gets nowhere.
There are things that can be done that do not include the defeatist attitude that we have to win a trophy or nothing
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| By Monday l was totally fasinated by the rainbows, flashing lights, little pink fishes swimming by, and the blue shooting stars, you lot should really try this stuff.
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| Durham - I sit amongst 'newcomers' who have stated they hate the music and drum banging, so i dont think its correct to just put everyone in a bracket.
The rugby is my only weekly social activity and i spend a lot of money for this so i want to enjoy myself. At the moment home games are not enjoyable - for me - because of the reasons i've given, i much prefer away games where we can enjoy ourselves more, the atmosphere is generally loads better among the travelling fans.
I spend a lot of money following this club and the way i see it if i dont think i am getting value for it i will voice my reasons. some people might want to try and recreate 90's Odsal but i dont, i want to be able to get songs going and chant players names etc like we used to be able to.
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| Durham I've been following home and away for the best part of 50 years and am getting cheeses off with being bracketed as being part of the past and Don't count now. I'm all for the club trying anything to help the atmosphere but sympathise with the choir who get drowned out. Perhaps it's a lot of the new fans (say last 5years) who deserted after last season and the price increases. I on the other hand am still going! Silly me, me being part of the past and all that!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Durham - I sit amongst 'newcomers' who have stated they hate the music and drum banging, so i dont think its correct to just put everyone in a bracket.
The rugby is my only weekly social activity and i spend a lot of money for this so i want to enjoy myself. At the moment home games are not enjoyable - for me -=#FF0000 because of the reasons i've given, i much prefer away games where we can enjoy ourselves more, the atmosphere is generally loads better among the travelling fans.
I spend a lot of money following this club and the way i see it if i dont think i am getting value for it i will voice my reasons. some people might want to try and recreate 90's Odsal but i dont, =#FF0000i want to be able to get songs going and chant players names etc like we used to be able to.'"
The atmosphere at away games and the singing is better because the singers congregate together.
There has been no real atmosphere at the galpharm / jogn Smiths for years because it is so big, the singers are all spread out etc.
If the singers were singing i would agree with you about not having music BUT there is only a few die hards that sing and because we are all spread out others dont join in. Was it you or your bro who said that out of the group of 20 who used to sing at the back of the stands only 2 or 3 attend now. Many of your singing partners seem to have gone.
If you want atmosphere then the fans have to make it. If the fans cannot the club have to do something.
I would rather not have the music and have loads of people singing. But if people are not singing i would rather have music than sit in a morgue.
DESIGNATING 3 BLOCKS OF 50 SEATS for singers to congregate may be a start. I dont know if it would work but it is worth trying. 1 in the centre to the back of your stand and one each on either side of the Riverside stand. There are so few season tickets it would not be difficult for the club to do it without causing much upset to people. I would sing all game if others joined in but all that happens is me and Tansy start a song, sing 4 lines others join in and then feel isolated so give up. If we were all sat together you do not feel as isolated and would feel more comfortable singing
But every time i suggest it people like you come on and say it wont work, i dont want to move seats , come and join us at the back of the stand etc etc.
You cannot have it both ways.
If you want atmosphere get people together to do it. That means the CLUB being proactive in promoting it
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| Quote ="gazzagiant"Durham I've been following home and away for the best part of 50 years and am getting cheeses off with being bracketed as being part of the past and Don't count now. I'm all for the club trying anything to help the atmosphere but sympathise with the choir who get drowned out. Perhaps it's a lot of the new fans (say last 5years) who deserted after last season and the price increases. I on the other hand am still going! Silly me, me being part of the past and all that!'"
I am not having a go at individuals but the reality is that for the club to survive it NEEDS NEW FANS with NEW MONEY to add to us old fookers who turn up week in and week out.
Many of these newer fans IMHO want atmosphere. If the fans are not providing it dont knock the club for trying.
I just do not see this thing where the music has killed the singers. I cannot remember many good atmospheres at the Galpharm ever. Every memory i have of good atmospheres in the last 10 years was at away games.
My nephew who i dragged along to Giants games over the last 6 or 7 years has a season ticket for Town but prefers rugby but has not got a season ticket for the Giants because he thinks home games are boring. He would rather go to away games that have atmosphere but the reality is that he ends up putting money into the pockets of cas and Wakey and Leeds rather than Huddersfield
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| Ever since the ground has been built the Fartown singing section has been in the same place. GD & meast have been at the centre of it from day 1. The folk that have been going since the first game at the new stadium know this, surely.
There already is a singing section. It is well known and it's not up to the singing section to move; it's up to those that want to sing to move to the singing section. The traditional singing section is still the area most densely populated with singers. This, IMO, is obvious to anyone who attends although it's fair to say that this season the ground has never been as quiet. Ever.
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| Quote ="Danril"Ever since the ground has been built the Fartown singing section has been in the same place. GD & meast have been at the centre of it from day 1. The folk that have been going since the first game at the new stadium know this, surely.
There already is a singing section. It is well known and it's not up to the singing section to move; it's up to those that want to sing to move to the singing section. The traditional singing section is still the area most densely populated with singers. This, IMO, is obvious to anyone who attends although it's fair to say that this season the ground has never been as quiet. Ever.'"
I accept that which is why i mentioned having one section in the centre towards the back of the Kilner stand where they congregate. and i know that those two you mention put a lot into it but there is not an equivalent in the other stand.
I also think that if the club were to tell the ST holders how important the singing etc is and that they were to designate sections and people could swap their season ticket seats to be closer together then it might just be that little extra boost that people need.
I just feel so demoralised that people slag the club off for doing things when they are just trying to address some of the problems they see. Yet i do think there are alternatives if people were little bit more open minded.
The club are doing the music beacuse the surrent atmosphere is so dire.
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| I'm not wanting to slag the club off, merely pointing out what i , and as it turns out, a few others on here dont like about the matchday experience.
The atmosphere has being going downhill for a while now and the fact that any singing nowadays is drowned out by the music is a big factor.....the music wasnt brought in because the singing had stopped its the other way round !!.
There is no point trying to get a song going if someone decides to blurt we will rock you out over the top of it or trying to celebrate a try with Tom Hark blaring out - that isn't how our fans celebrate tries.
I personally dont think it is helping the atmosphere one bit, quite the opposite therefore as one of the 'leading singers' feel i need to voice my concern that it is hindering the atmosphere.
I accept people have differrent opinions, some people may like it but i cant see how anyone can say it is helping !!.
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| I don't think there could be anything but good things come from congregating singers together but people don't want to move.
The way things are going atmosphere wise this season there may well be a moment where people decide to make a change. If the singing section gets up a bit for the next couple of games and make a point of making some noise then maybe that will attract people from elsewhere in the ground.
Negativity breeds negativity. We need a bit of positivity in the stands as well as on the pitch.
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| We sit at the back of the Britannia and might be regarded as part of the 'singing' section so it is easy to look down over the stand and see how supporters respond to what is going on. Although we have been hard-pressed to get any sort of singing/chanting going (and our numbers in this section have also declined alarmingly from previous seasons - our row from being almost fully occupied now has about 6 people in it) we have noticed that any chants that do get going the response seems to have spread/be spreading throughout the stand directly in front of us and outwards so the potential is definitely there. I think people do want to join in but are too shy/embarassed/reluctant/isolated to do so. On the other hand I can accept that people watch and support the game how they wish but there are several that sit in front of us that can't even manage to clap when we score and the disapproval that radiates for even daring to shout/chant/cheer/clap can be quite off-putting - how they think their almost complete silence encourages the team on the pitch I don't know. I'm not sure what the answer is - perhaps the club could organise a brain-storming get together specifically to put forward suggestions for increasing crowd participation and hopefully gates too. I know people on the boards/social networks often put forward suggestions and there are some good ones but perhaps this needs to be co-ordinated and centralised..
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