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| Quote ="PONNER"It's his constant wrapping his body around the tackler to get a penalty and his temper tantrums that make him one of the most annoying players in SL. Nobody would dislike him so much if he played the game fairly like 99% of RL players. Great with ball in hand but spoils it all with his antics.'"
Can you name an incident where he has done that this year? I can't.
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| theres a whole topic on tomkins on the virtual terrace, over 26 pages if you like to read
do we really need this on here too!
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue":2w5z25lqCan you name an incident where he has done that this year? I can't.'"
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| Quote ="daveydj17"y do u and all other idiots boo sam tompkins'"
Please stop giving us a bad name, and buy a dictionary or borrow one from the school library.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"He held one of our players down on Saturday and got a penalty. [Mid-way through the 2nd half I think.'"
Yeah, no other player in world rugby ever does that do they? Its just you all make a fuss when Sam does anthing wrong because you want a reason to pretend its why you hate him..."because he's a cheat"
No its not, its because he plays for Wigan and he's class, just like you all hated Andy Farrell for the exact same reason.
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| You'll give yourself a coronary carrying on like that. Relax guy!
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| Quote ="21-12"Yeah..."because he's a cheat"'"
Some sense at last!
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| what is it with these wigan fans?
fans boo sam tomkins because he plays for wigan and he's good?
funny, i dont hear fans booing pat richards,george carmont,ryan hoffman,o'loughlin etc, they play for wigan and are good players also, so care to explain? or are your heads that far up you cant think straight
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks" Hudds had been persistently lying on up to that point and Grix was clearly holding Hansen down with Hodgson pushing him down. Therefore who was cheating on this occasion? '"
grix and hodgson must be a lot stronger than they look!
maybe we should give hodgy another year and play him as a prop.
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| Quote ="jools"grix and hodgson must be a lot stronger than they look!
maybe we should give hodgy another year and play him as a prop.'"
Well Tomkins apparently manages to hold players arms in and not let them go he must be stronger than he looks to!!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Well Tomkins apparently manages to hold players arms in and not let them go he must be stronger than he looks to!!'"
He doesn't hold players he just cons the ref.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Can you name an incident where he has done that this year? I can't.'" All the Wigan games i've seen on tv i've seen him guilty of it. Take you pink and white specs off and you'd see it like everyone else pal.
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| Sam is a very good player. I don't care who he plays for tbh. If he played for Hudds I'd hold the same opinion of him. He's one of those kids who thinks no-one has the right to tackle him and he is constantly on at referees to send players into the bin for 10.I've seen him do that a few times, along with Briers and Westwood too. That kind of thing is just poor.
It's a real shame imo, as the lad is clearly talented enough not to have to resort to that kind of petulance. That's the bit that annoys me personally.
And FWIW, booing a player who is representing our country at international level is pathetic.
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| Quote ="PONNER"Quote ="Mini Rogue"Can you name an incident where he has done that this year? I can't.'" All the Wigan games i've seen on tv i've seen him guilty of it. Take you pink and white specs off and you'd see it like everyone else pal.'"
Is that because Stevo says so? If he doesnt get dominated in the tackle is he supposed to lay on the floor till the defensive line is back in place?
Like I said if Tomkins is that strong to dominate 2 or 3 tacklers to make them stay on him and win a pen hes a strong lad!
For the moaning at the ref did you also moan at Silverwood last week when he penalised Griffin for moaning at him?
Does Robinson not moan at refs?
Briers moans at refs, Graham does the same, Wellens love to wave his hands and moan. Sinfield tries to ref his games non of these get booed!!!!
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| Who said 2 or 3 tacklers? It's one defender, he clamps his arms or legs around them in the tackle. Probably hard to see at a game but when you see the games on tv it obvious.
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| but does he get up and stamp on someones ankle then runaway ????? mmmmmmm...
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| Quote ="wiganboy"but does he get up and stamp on someones ankle then runaway ????? mmmmmmm...
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He will do one day the way he stamps his feet when he disagrees with a decision
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| lets stick to FACTS shall we plzzz
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| Quote ="wiganboy"lets stick to FACTS shall we plzzz
'" We are. Tomkins is a class player who doesn't need to cheat.
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| and think if he played for you as we speak,, you wouldnt be calling him a cheat, and thats another FACT
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| If he played for us he'd be pulled up by the ref every 5 mins, so yes we'd get onto his back for giving away so many penalties...FACT so there!!<in playground voice>
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| Quote ="jools"He doesn't hold players he just cons the ref.'"
Quote ="PONNER"Who said 2 or 3 tacklers? It's one defender, he clamps his arms or legs around them in the tackle. Probably hard to see at a game but when you see the games on tv it obvious.'"
Cant be that obvious as there are 2 differing opinions on what he does!
Not sure if you can find the stats anywhere but I bet he hasnt been given many if any pens for being held down this season!
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"He held one of our players down on Saturday and got a penalty. [Mid-way through the 2nd half I think.'"
load of rubbish, if your on about when Robinson gave a penalty then your way off.
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| Here's one for you. If he milks penalties then how come on 57 when cudjoe Technically tackled him in the air he just got up and played the ball? It was
Noticeable but the ref missed it and Tomkins didn't say a word he just got on with it as per usual.
Bare in mind here Stevo and Eddie go on about how it should have been a penalty etc.
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| Quote ="PONNER"All the Wigan games i've seen on tv i've seen him guilty of it. Take you pink and white specs off and you'd see it like everyone else pal.'"
If this accusation had come last year I would have fully agreed with you, it was obvious what he was doing. However, you are incorrect when you say every game you have seen him on TV this year he's done it, because he is [inot [/idoing it anymore. You are mistaken. To back up your comment you really should name a match (that is available online) and quote the time into the match for everyone to be able to confirm your accusation.
There have been occasions where opposition players have held him down a second too long and conceded a penalty. Every team and every player does that occasionally, including all the Wigan players. However, that doesn't mean Tomkins is holding on to them.
Whereas I fully understand opposition supporters disliking him for the tactics he used last year, I think they should take into account that he has stopped those tactics this year.
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