well he'll fit in nicely with you lot then....youve lost your last 2 challenge cup finals..

Exactly

saints and grand finals anyone?

i'd rather get there and lose like we did in the CC than not get there at all. We dont like people laughing at us losing? why should we do the same?

I realise the wink is there but sure as eggs are eggs, some people revel in others failure

So you arent happy with Gilmour or Drew then



Who would you have bought just out of interest?

I am not convinced at a 2 year contract for him, but he still has it in spades for a season at least

Still dont know why Bradford let him go.

Because he couldn't make the cut, we had better players at the time.

Joke of the year, surely that one eh ponner

Why all the childish grins?

I'm not saying Lee isn't a great player, because he is. But at the time he couldn't make the cut to start at either second row or centre for us, simply because we had better players than what Lee was at that time in those positions that he wanted to play.

Stop it, yer killing us

So why didn't he make the cut then for us?

Too much skill and class for the Route 1, Plan A rugby of Bradford under Noble.

Suppose Shontayne Hape had to much class and skill then.

lost 2..won a few.....and a few challenge cups as well...most sucsessful team in the superleague era....now where were we?..oh and the giants have won..err ..um.. doh..let me see...NAFF ALL...

we have a nice collection of spoons thanks... the wooden variety ..

Since we are talking about the past, we too have a large collection of cups and trophies

But like the Bulls, they are all in the past

I`m definitely for Gilmour coming !!

He doesnt get his tries ruled out for double movement !!

Take note Mr Lunt !!

He did in the semi against us!!!

Hmmm not good enough for Bradford but good enough for Saints?


You owe me a new keyboard, your comments made me spit my sugar puffs and milk over it

Haha, Saints had nothing on us 01 - 05(Check the SL records Ponner Kebab) and specifically 01 - 03 when Lee couldn't break into our run on side. So yes Lee wasn't good enough for Bradford, but good enough for Saints.

I await some more childish remarks and laughs in your attempt to convince yourselves and each other that Lee Gilmour was good enough for Bulls despite the cold hard facts that say he wasn't.

Lee Gilmour
2001 played 23
2002 played 23
2003 played 27 (nobody at Bulls played more games that year than him.)
Not bad for someone who couldn't break in to the side.


I wouldn't exactly call 3-2 in your favour 'nothing'.
2001 league positions
=blueBulls 1st
Saints 4th
2002 league positions
Bulls 2nd
=redSaints 1st
2003 league positions
=blueBulls 1st
Siants 4th
2004 league positions
=blueBulls 2nd
Saints 5th
2005 league positions
Bulls 3rd
=redSaints 1st

after your chosen date, Gilmour playing for Saints but not good enough for Bulls



2006 league positions
Bulls 4th
Saints 1st
2007 league positions
Bulls 3th
Saints 1st
2008 league positions
Bulls 5th
Saints 1st

I think Ponner just pwned the cattle fan

Never said he couldn't get in the side, I said he couldn't break into the run on side(run on side being the first 13, ya know, the ones that run on the field at the start of a game) Lee was a utility player for us, who filled in here and there. The closest he came to holding down a position was in 2002 when he played a number of games at centre for us. The following year when we signed Hape, he was back in the utility role.

Yes that's correct, Saints had nothing on us between the dates, 2001 - 2005 in Super League.

As you say, 3 to 2 1st place finishes, but an even wider, 3 to 1 GF wins, and an even wider, 5 to 1 GF appearences in our favour. During that period, and during the period Lee played for us, Saints were second to us by a considerable margin in Super League.

Like I said, Lee wasn't good enough to break into the run on team for us whilst he was here. There are reasons for that, yes. The main ones being the quality we had in the positions Lee was best at. All credit to him for going to Saints though and holding down a position there, but he got that opportunity because there was a place for him to make his own, and again, credit to him, because he kicked on a became a truly great player which he made his own.

I don't know why your getting all upset about it, because it's not a dig at Lee(who your obviously excited about getting), but just the facts of the matter about his career whilst he was at Bradford.

Hahah, NO