Exactly P - and I dont think after (in his particular case DG will as hes seen much worse times than this!

And I wasnt suggesting to Jools that given the squad we had we should be surprised

But I am saying that after seeing what they did to Leeds (twice) and with a mandown on one of those occasions --noone will convince me that there was a distinct lack of "heart" on [umany[/u occasions in the second half of the season that cant be put down to injuries /bad luck/ refs decisions etc

Some of what happens I strongly suspect were down to poor decisions (I`ll leave it at that ) from above rather that affected players mindset - but I think as "professionals" (whilst not suggesting a revolt) they should have the personal pride to rise above it

CG and you suggest that we shouldnt be mamby pamby when things go turtle and stick with the task
I similarly suggest if the team had shown similar backbone it might have at least rewarded us with "home" draws in the playoff

We all have different comfort zones and some are more tolerant than others in whats acceptable

But for those who still make extremely long treks to matches home or away) -- it can seriously have an effect on what height the "bar" is set

To slag em off cos of how they want to apportion the family budget aint anyones right --
However much they enjoy their Rugby and supporting their team --there are other aspects in life to consider
End of!

Try not to tell me what pleases or does not please me, you have no talent for it.

I don't dress up my pov. I just think mugs wrapping themselves in the disappointments of 2012 need to grow up.

Feel free to share your insights on Kd's body language...i suppose some on here will be interested.

Exactly.

Wow. Who on this thread has said this? Please name them.

Durham Giant wrote :- (Quote)
=#0000FF1. From what i have heard sales are about 50% down.
Out of our group of 14 we have got precisely NO season tickets and that includes the kids.
Financially we are all struggling in different ways. and no one could renew

2 At what stage does a season ticket become too expensive for you.
£200 ?
£300 ?
£500 ?

WITH MY PETROL COSTS AND SEASON TICKET the basic cost is £720 regardless of anything else. That almost equates to 2 months spending money.

3 I cannot justify that to see some of the crap I have had to witness.

4 I have been waiting 34 years hardly looking for instant success

Cripes Ginger (or one of their other many pseudonyms) responded:- (Quote)
=#FF0000[uYour repeated moaning and whinging is repetitive.[/u It may tell us more about the fate of you and your 14 fellow travellers than the state of the club against the back drop of your 34 years experience.

Plenty of fans are very disappointed with 2012 but they get over it rather than bask in their woes. They have a bit of Yorkshire grit. They 'man up' rather than whimper.

You are welcome to a world of looking for the negatives and then bleating about them ad nauseam. You can join the supporters not renewing their season tickets who complain about our poor sales in season tickets.

Spot on. Those people trying to make out that 2012 was some particularly bad season should trying some thinking rather than infantile emoting.

I just think mugs wrapping themselves in the disappointments of 2012 need to grow up.

Clear enough ?

Ps -- Your repeated derision of other supporters whilst basking in self glorification is similarly boring
But if it amuses you .....................!

Oh behave people and get some perspective

Was it a frustrating season? Hell yes
Was it a bad season? We've seen worse
Do we have a squad capable of challenging for the top? Yes.

That's it, that's the be all and end all of the argument.

Otherwise out of all the Super League clubs tell me which ones have a world class scrum half AND stand off (clue, the answer is none)

Never understood this attitude of 'I am so desperate for my club to do well,but it's not happening just at the moment therefore I will withdraw my support,and that will show them'

All this is saying to Sir Ken is - get your hand in your pocket and spend even more cash than the millions you have already done - as we as 'fans' are not prepared to back your monumental investment even with a measly £200 because it isn't all working out the way we wanted.

Sums it up for me that pal !!

Supporters support .....fans come along for the good bits !

Btw i'm not aiming mine at people like DG etc who have to travel a distance to games, i lived away once and it is damn hard to get back to every game so know the situation they're in.

Cheers Dazzler

but he said all 14 of his pals were throwing the towel in,not just himself.

I'm with you on that one sheepridge. If folk decide not to come because its too expensive in these difficult times then fair enough. But to give up because they didn't get what they wanted..as well as reminding me if my 6 year old.... .. Well sort of smacks of hypocritical given the criticism of the players giving up/ not making the effort.

are some wanting to go watch huddersfield town now instead?

A lot use the price as an excuse,after all the club offer a monthly payment option,so suppose if you are truly committed to the Giants cause you need to sacrifice some other pleasure.Too many expect to have top class RL for nowt.All these who are saying they won't renew are basically throwing Sir Kens outstanding generosity of last year back in his face.

They do sheepridge- but I can get where some are coming from, our income went down more than 2/3 when the other half was made redundant last year and if it had happened at this time of year no way we could have afforded to renew our tickets.

Jeez

I'm in a bit of a fix myself, i'm working at the moment but i know come December i am out of a job again and i cant afford to pay for mine and my lads outright but if i cant find work straight away i wont be able to afford the monthly payments .......might ask for donations as xmas pressies

Daz I know you want to be there,not looking for unrealistic excuses about not whacking Wiggin Whinos & Stains by 40 points every week.

Can i be your conductor, we could be like a modern day on the buses

YO

3 of them have lost their jobs and are unemployed. They are struggling financially to the extent they have had to sell their car and are relying on public transport. There none attendance will affect them taking their kids.

One is now spending his money watching Town for obvious reasons.

As I have not got a season ticket i did not bother renewing the three kids. That about covers the 14.

I will pick and choose my games now. If i lived in Shhepbridge i woulkd have renewed. But i dont and i have other prioritie sthat i have to spend my money on.

The fact that Diesel will be a least 3p a litre dearer from January also influences my decisions.

Is that enough for all the holier than thou supporters on here.

I would like to know where they all were when we took 21 fans to whitehaven or about 30 to the Harvey Haddon playing fields.

The negativity about the club is based on the fact that some people seem unable to accept that IMHO Ken Davy gave his last shot at building success by giving NB every finacial and support available to build the club.

Despite some posters glorifying getting to the CC final and getting 3rd place in the league IMHO NB constantly undermined the club every season he was here with is will i stay or will i go antics.

His recruitment IMHO was poor, he left us with a poor set of forwards to hand over to Anderson and then decided to fook us over signing Kopczak.

When Smith left he left a decent legacy for Sharp to build on, when Sharp went at least Anderson and Purtill something to work with and give NB a decent start. Anderson has been left in potentially a worse situation by Nbs poor decisons at the end of last season and this.


Still at least we have some good youngstrers at 15, 16 and 18 level. Lets hope they decide to stay with their home town club rather than follow the money or success over the pennines.

Just cos I live in this fictional place of sheepbridge,

somehow everything has just been handed to me on a plate,no financial concerns for me and mine.

See you & your mates when the Giants start winning again on a regular basis,until then.............

82-0 ?? i was there

All these who are saying they won't renew are basically throwing Sir Kens outstanding generosity of last year back in his face.

If people dont want to renew then thats their choice imo, financially,we are all struggling right now and i dont blame anyone for putting a season ticket for the rugby 2nd.
But lets face reality here, we have over achieved the last few years,thanks no doubt to ken davy and nathan brown, and expectation levels were raised considerably, some fans now expect silverware when in reality are we are still miles off being a trophy winning club,things may get better or worse the next few years but can we honestly say that for a club of our stature that a cup semi final and a 4th succesive play off campaign that this season has been a disaster? Disappointing given the start we made yes, but a disaster? I've seen a lot worse and u suspect we will now find our true level

with the expectation levels now placed on the club to go that next step further then to some yes this year has been a disaster!
what we have to remember is that yes we have improved but so have the others too so we're still trying to pull level with the 'big teams' never mind overtake them.

Got ours renewed, still good value for money, crikey compare it to Soccer!

Just hope we put some pride back in wearing the C&G in the fans, I think the problem we've had this season is expectation, after a wonderful first half, we were the total opposite in the second. On Superleague fulltime they were talking about us and mentioned that there must be something rotten in the club for it to go off the rails like we did-difficult to argue otherwise.

Just hope we removed the rotten stuff for next season.

We need to get behind Anderson and the lads and see where it takes us, come on C&G.