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| Quote ="Nephilim"Price is the least of the Giants' worries as far as I'm concerned. I've got a season ticket but I will not be going to watch again due to the poor level of entertainment that I witnessed agaisnt Hull KR and Warrington. A number of the players have been quoted as saying the team needs to peak for the playoffs and I suspect that this is impacting on the level of fitness and the intensity that the team is showing. If Huddersfield Giants want me to watch then they have to play to their optimum week in, week out. If there not willing to do that then I have more important things to be doing with my time.'"
the structure of the league will be different next season , it needed to be to stop the exactly the above happening
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| Being someone like I am I've yet to see anyone turn up on the day and walk away due to the price, I have been spoken to by fans querying whether there's a cheaper alternative entrance price and when told no they grumble but still come in!
At the saints game they had a promotion and the promotion price remained for the north lower yet folk paid the extra on the day price rather than the tenner! Despite that being a massively discounted game folk still didn't show in mass numbers! Ok it was the bbc but still two big teams at a tenner was quite a bargain!
Think many clubs are cashing in on pre orders rather than the average walk up fan as we all find prices rise when we go away and yet a family attending an away game would find it relatively cheaper for the adults than our walk up price but then find out the kids are £14!!! So a family of four can pay out around £70 so £48 is quite a difference!! Do we chop the adult price and introduce kids paying? So maybe the on the day prices are in fact paying for the new generation to be allowed in for free! Do we really want it both ways? Would these families still show up if the kids weren't free?
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| The 'Click and Collect' has been mentioned on here many times since it was introduced.
To the people who are having a go at the club, a serious question, are you willing to help in any way? Perhaps you'd like to join HGSA and help promte the club and raise funds through that organisation? Would you be willing to help them sell some raffle tickets where the first prize is a day with the Sky team at a match of your choice?
You could even put your points directly to MD Richard Thewlis on Tuesday 6th May at Turnbridge WMC when he is HGSA's guest speaker.
Disclaimer: these comments are in no way intended to upset people. The comments expressed are entirely my own and are not necessarily those of HGSA.
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| Don't be daft Ivor- folk just love a moan. Especially in hudds. They also want something for nothing.
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| I've offered my services in any way to the marketing team many times, seems though the offers are there to help out they are reluctant to use free labour to promote.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"The 'Click and Collect' has been mentioned on here many times since it was introduced.
To the people who are having a go at the club, a serious question, are you willing to help in any way? Perhaps you'd like to join HGSA and help promte the club and raise funds through that organisation? Would you be willing to help them sell some raffle tickets where the first prize is a day with the Sky team at a match of your choice?
You could even put your points directly to MD Richard Thewlis on Tuesday 6th May at Turnbridge WMC when he is HGSA's guest speaker.
Disclaimer: these comments are in no way intended to upset people. The comments expressed are entirely my own and are not necessarily those of HGSA.'"
i will answer yes to this i would like to help out where i can, if you could send me any info you may have. thank you.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"I've offered my services in any way to the marketing team many times, seems though the offers are there to help out they are reluctant to use free labour to promote.'"
after starting this thred i felt i should have a think about what i would actually do to inprove the situation myself.
my first idea was as you say to use the die hard fans to better efect not to neseseraly use them as free labour but encourage them and help them do what they do anyway but on a bigger scale maby give them some offical tital with benafits rather than pay them a wage. when i was starting out in premoting nyt clubs ect i used enthusiastic artists friends ect to spred the word, hand out flyers ,send emails ect and in return would offer free entry to gigs free drinks or to play there music on my nyts to get them selves seen and herd, this was very efective in more ways than one, people like to feal part of something. i know its on a smaler scale but i think its a good idea,
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| The club asked for such volunteers a short while ago- one person turned up (think that could have been daz!)
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| As a ST holder - walk up prices don't effect me but £24 is too much. I pre buy away tickets for this reason and the fact that it helps the Giants by buying through them. But then I am a committed fan and RL would be the last thing to economise on if I had to (except maybe the mortgage as the kids seem to like having a bed to sleep in - strange girls ). I would not be happy to pay £24 away - but would pay that only because I am a committed fan. I certainly would not attend any SL game as a neutral and pay that much - better to go watch the lower divisions, or U19s for my dollar.
I really do appreciate the dilemma for the club though - cheap offers - £10 tickets etc... have not worked and therefore cannot be sustained. It appears that cheaper tickets alone does not equal higher attendances - and so the club makes a loss - or at least makes less than not doing the special offers.
Despite being a SL ticket I couldn't care less how little other people have to pay on the day if I thought that this would radically increase our support over time. Clearly though it is not as simple as that.
Not sure what the club do to encourage the casual or first time supporters along to games, and I am no marketing expert. However I would target big games similar to what Wigan have done in recent years. Let school kids in for nothing, and back this up with a really low price if they are accompanied by say two other adults. We would have to go a long way to get any issues over ground capacity and this would surely give the best possible first impression to those who did attend. It would also help to win the game of course (have we ever won a game where the cheap tickets were on offer?) - then again we could appoint Bentham to Ref as he surely owes us
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"The 'Click and Collect' has been mentioned on here many times since it was introduced.
To the people who are having a go at the club, a serious question, are you willing to help in any way? Perhaps you'd like to join HGSA and help promte the club and raise funds through that organisation? Would you be willing to help them sell some raffle tickets where the first prize is a day with the Sky team at a match of your choice?
You could even put your points directly to MD Richard Thewlis on Tuesday 6th May at Turnbridge WMC when he is HGSA's guest speaker.
Disclaimer: these comments are in no way intended to upset people. The comments expressed are entirely my own and are not necessarily those of HGSA.'"
Unfortunately I'm unable to get to meeting. Is it possible to relay questions via yourself or someone else to be put to Richard Thewlis?
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| Quote ="devoniangiant"As a ST holder - walk up prices don't effect me but £24 is too much. I pre buy away tickets for this reason and the fact that it helps the Giants by buying through them. But then I am a committed fan and RL would be the last thing to economise on if I had to (except maybe the mortgage as the kids seem to like having a bed to sleep in - strange girls
). I would not be happy to pay £24 away - but would pay that only because I am a committed fan. I certainly would not attend any SL game as a neutral and pay that much - better to go watch the lower divisions, or U19s for my dollar.
I really do appreciate the dilemma for the club though - cheap offers - £10 tickets etc... have not worked and therefore cannot be sustained. It appears that cheaper tickets alone does not equal higher attendances - and so the club makes a loss - or at least makes less than not doing the special offers.
Despite being a SL ticket I couldn't care less how little other people have to pay on the day if I thought that this would radically increase our support over time. Clearly though it is not as simple as that.
Not sure what the club do to encourage the casual or first time supporters along to games, and I am no marketing expert. However I would target big games similar to what Wigan have done in recent years. Let school kids in for nothing, and back this up with a really low price if they are accompanied by say two other adults. We would have to go a long way to get any issues over ground capacity and this would surely give the best possible first impression to those who did attend. It would also help to win the game of course (have we ever won a game where the cheap tickets were on offer?) - then again we could appoint Bentham to Ref as he surely owes us
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The Wigan example is a good one. They had great success with the 'big one' matches, where they made a special effort to get a focused increase on that matches attendance. They also highlight other matches and make seem like standalone events.
We could echo this type of approach. Certain deals, focused marketing, assosciated events etc. I know that the club do this to a certain extent, but I feel it could be expanded upon.
Other ideas that have legs are flexi card type deal and tiered pricing. 5 cat 1 matches for £100, 5 cat 2 matches for for £75 etc (just throwing figures out, so don't hold the maths against me.) I for one would be tempted by this kind of deal. Due to distance, I struggle getting to all matches, and something like this would be very tempting.
I also like the idea of club memberships. So for people who don't want the outlay of a ST, but want to feel part of the club, this could be a way of extra revenue being generated. Most nrl clubs do this, and seems to work well. Benefits could be discounted walk up prices for certain or even all games, pin badge, membership card, etc.
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| Quote ="shrops giant"The Wigan example is a good one. They had great success with the 'big one' matches, where they made a special effort to get a focused increase on that matches attendance. They also highlight other matches and make seem like standalone events.
We could echo this type of approach. Certain deals, focused marketing, assosciated events etc. I know that the club do this to a certain extent, but I feel it could be expanded upon.
Other ideas that have legs are flexi card type deal and tiered pricing. 5 cat 1 matches for £100, 5 cat 2 matches for for £75 etc (just throwing figures out, so don't hold the maths against me.) I for one would be tempted by this kind of deal. Due to distance, I struggle getting to all matches, and something like this would be very tempting.
I also like the idea of club memberships. So for people who don't want the outlay of a ST, but want to feel part of the club, this could be a way of extra revenue being generated. Most nrl clubs do this, and seems to work well. Benefits could be discounted walk up prices for certain or even all games, pin badge, membership card, etc.'"
some very good ideas there mate.
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| Quote ="shrops giant"Unfortunately I'm unable to get to meeting. Is it possible to relay questions via yourself or someone else to be put to Richard Thewlis?'"
No problems. PM them to me if you don't want the general public to read them beforehand.
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| £24 is too high. I think it needs to be about £16
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| I agree that as a season ticket holder i wouldn't be that bothered if people on the day were paying the same or not too far off what i was, i buy a season ticket because it's easier for me, i can pay in installments and once its paid for i knwo i have a ticket for every home game so dont have to worry about finding the money come gameday.
I buy mine for convenience more than the actual price per game it costs and certainly wouldn't bother me if 5,000 extra were coming and only paying £1 more a game than me !!.
I also think a similar idea to Wigan's 'big one' is a good idea, we could market them as the 'Giant match' etc and target not only schools/colleges but large companies around the town, choose a certain one for each game and let their workers buy tickets at a reduced rate. It may not pay off it may lose money but surely it's worth a try.
As we have seen with the cheap ticket deals it doesn't actually seem to boost crowd numbers, away fans love them and come in droves, but not in the home stands as all this does is mean that people who use cheap tickets picked up from elsewhere for SL games can still get into a game for cheap, the lower ticket deals are only bringing in the same people who usually come but for cheaper and we need new fans as well as the existing fans coming in cheap !!.
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| Another thing you need to realise is that not only do we allow under 12's in for free but we're the only club who has one price for all stands! Also like for like we're relatively cheaper than everyone else! Something has to give as its not sustainable! This idea of a part season ticket is bandied as being the same price as we sold full season tickets a few seasons ago it didn't help the overall average attendance! Plus it doesn't help the on the day deciders!
I often wonder how our attendances would be affected if we had cards rather than vouchers for season tickets obviously more would have to pay the full match day price maybe then that entry price is substantially reduced!
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| Of course 6 pages moaning the price is too high and doesn't give value for money is great publicity for the club. They must be soooooo happy.
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| Wouldn't say its 6 pages of moaning, there's a hell of a lot of good ideas and constructive posts too !
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Wouldn't say its 6 pages of moaning, there's a hell of a lot of good ideas and constructive posts too !'"
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| My apologies.
5 and a half pages of people moaning £24 is too much with the occasional bit of sense from some posters who understand economic reality and don't live in a world of unicorns, rainbows and no such thing as bills.
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| I do get it. You can get a family ticket next door at the odeon for about £24 and get approximately the same time of entertainment for a family of four there as for 1 adult at the stadium.
The clubs problem is reducing the prices hasn't persuaded more to come- so they may as well just charge £24. That's down to apathy on the part of sometime supporters and they can't really complain.
BUT there are people who just cannot make enough games for a season ticket to be value for money-for that reason I really think the flexi ticket or some sort of membership thing is the way to go.
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| Quote ="Ivor C&G Scarf"No problems. PM them to me if you don't want the general public to read them beforehand.'"
Thanks, will get something over to you.
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| I agree if you aren’t a regular fan then £24 seems quite high.....but once you’re hooked you’re hooked! I started watching the odd game in 2009 and after a few years I now rarely miss a game (home or away).
I think it’d be quite a good idea to get the cheerleaders out into the centre of town a few times a week/weekends (if schedules allow) and get them handing out vouchers - say £5 off your ticket this weekend type thing...
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| Quote ="giantarmy"I agree if you aren’t a regular fan then £24 seems quite high.....but once you’re hooked you’re hooked! I started watching the odd game in 2009 and after a few years I now rarely miss a game (home or away).
I think it’d be quite a good idea to get the cheerleaders out into the centre of town a few times a week/weekends (if schedules allow) and get them handing out vouchers - say £5 off your ticket this weekend type thing...'"
Ther is the "hooked" effect as we are similar in watching the odd RL game now and then a few years back and now travelling from Derby every Sunday to either watch Giants or Crusaders (and if really slumming it South Wales Scoropions!!!). I think the problem RL has if unlike us you only watch one team is the fact you could go a couple of months with only 1 or 2 Sunday home games and away games on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sundays (as indeed the next few months pan out for us) it is very easy to get out of the habit of going to games and the current state of SL where blow outs are becoming more and more common will not help matters.
Not sure there is an answer as clubs like Leeds and Saints seem happy with Friday night games as most non TV fixtures on a Sunday afternoon would help but I think it is a case of we are where we are and tinkering a few pounds with the price will not make much difference though still think making the FM Stand a "cheap" enclosure might be not a bad idea with perhaps a few hundred tickets put up for sale by the away team to get round any arguments about like for like pricing.
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| here's and idea
scrap season tickets
make it £14 a game on the day pay, see what crowds we get..
everyones happy then...apart from ken davy.. prob end up in admin after he pulls the plug
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