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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Why does Rick Stone hate Ryan Brierley ? The only 2 games you have won, he's started in each game. Maybe when the 'silver fox' gets sacked, he might get a game or 3.'"
We don't have the game and skills to utilize a player like Brierley, and i think R Stone knows it. We made some very good individual breaks in the game last night, none of which turned into a try, Roberts made a great break that resulted in a try at the other end for the Dragons, we are just a bunch of individuals who do their own thing, some better than others.
Offloading and support play are a foregn concept at the Giants and have been for many years, the only recent exception being Browns early reign. We had a 60% completion rate Endless knockon's most of them on the 1/2nd tackle , penalties aplenty, a player who got himself in the bin, and we have fans who think we lost because of the ref. We can't play even basic rugby, and It's the ref's fault.
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| Quote ="brearley84"he doesnt hate brierley
gave him a fair crack at half back but didnt work
our attack was worse with him there.... and thats saying something!
gaskell got the chance and done well, maybe its brough who needs to the chop now
but at cas we had brierley and gaskell at half back...i could get to that game so cant comment but by the scoreline it didnt work'"
So hang on - to budgie your saying our attack is worse with brierley, and brierley and Gaskell didn't work- yet two posts up you are saying go with brierley and Gaskell
You seem to have had a downer on wardle, now on Hinchcliffe -seems you don't like grafters. well I'd rather have 10 hinchcliffes than 10 mamos it doesn't matter how many points we score we still have to score MORE than the opposition. If we had 10 players capable of defending like Hinchcliffe we wouldn't be losing so many games. .
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| Quote ="brearley84"another poor performance, brough costing us again with his gob. his time is up for me at this club.'"
Does that mean the avatar's time is up also
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| Quote ="Jo Jumbuck"We don't have the game and skills to utilize a player like Brierley, and i think R Stone knows it. We made some very good individual breaks in the game last night, none of which turned into a try, Roberts made a great break that resulted in a try at the other end for the Dragons, we are just a bunch of individuals who do their own thing, some better than others.
Offloading and support play are a foregn concept at the Giants and have been for many years, the only recent exception being Browns early reign. We had a 60% completion rate Endless knockon's most of them on the 1/2nd tackle , penalties aplenty, a player who got himself in the bin, and we have fans who think we lost because of the ref. We can't play even basic rugby, and It's the ref's fault.'"
yes stone alluded to the fact they are playing as individuals and doing their own thing to force the issue instead of managing a game
they just arent learning or dont want to do it enough ..thats what stone said lastnight anyway ..they dont want to do it enough to make the change
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| Quote ="chissitt"Does that mean the avatar's time is up also
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nah, always be a legend with broughy at this club as i have said elsewhere... you not spotted it? you seem to read everything else about the giants!
where are shakefield playing next season btw?? dewsbury?
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| Quote ="jools"So hang on - to budgie your saying our attack is worse with brierley, and brierley and Gaskell didn't work- yet two posts up you are saying go with brierley and Gaskell
You seem to have had a downer on wardle, now on Hinchcliffe -seems you don't like grafters. well I'd rather have 10 hinchcliffes than 10 mamos it doesn't matter how many points we score we still have to score MORE than the opposition. If we had 10 players capable of defending like Hinchcliffe we wouldn't be losing so many games. .'"
our attack was worse with brierley....the worst i have ever seen was against leigh away...this prompted the move from full back for gaskell and the dropping of brierley. the poster asked why brierley wasnt playing...so that maybe the reason why.
other post was replying to another poster about moving brough to hooker...for that to happen yes brierley would come back in and get another chance with gaskell... which they have combined once against castleford..i didnt make that game so cant say much about how it went. brierley and gaskell is different to brierley and brough at halfback.
said my piece on wardle, get over it
yep hinchcliffe is a grafter and can tackle, bit like lawrence and we do need those in the team but for the salary he will be on could we do better? i think so.
mamo impressed lastnight, i know you would like him to fail as you didnt like us signing him but hey ho
hope thats cleared thing up for you abit but no doubt you will come back with more argumentative drivel
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| Quote ="brearley84"you not spotted it? you seem to read everything else about the giants!
where are shakefield playing next season btw?? dewsbury?'"
I see your still peddling the myth about Shakesfield squire, the only connection is we both have the same landlord, the difference is we get first dibs where as you and the terriers, well the least said about that the better.
The only thing I read about the giants on here is your excuses when you lose and tbh you seem to be making a habit of it the last couple of years quite amusing really
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| Quote ="chissitt"Not sure what it has got to do with Wakefield but it does help when a coach has better players to coach.
Can't see your comparison really the league tells you who are championship grade and unfortunately for your club once again as of last year it looks like your club are heading for the middle eights, as against the Trin who look to be heading once again for the top eight, not wanting to criticise your coach but might I remind you about Huby, Wood and hitherto our player of the season Scott Grix, anyway from a grateful Wakey fan thank you if not though for the back handed compliment.'"
That's the exact point I'm making, and it is a compliment to your coach. Huby looked unfit and useless for us under 2 different coaches last year, wood got 15 mins here and there behind the likes of Jamie Ellis and Hinchcliffe and was clearly not fancied much, Grix was underrated particularly for his organisation and brain. Now all of a sudden all 3 are doing a great job at Wakey.
We don't have the best squad of players, but it is better than our league position and the way that they keep playing. But they are only better than this if they are coached, organised and set up to do so.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I see your still peddling the myth about Shakesfield squire, the only connection is we both have the same landlord, the difference is we get first dibs where as you and the terriers, well the least said about that the better.
The only thing I read about the giants on here is your excuses when you lose and tbh you seem to be making a habit of it the last couple of years quite amusing really
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dewsbury for shakefield next season then?
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| Quote ="brearley84"dewsbury for shakefield next season then?
can change to dewsfield
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If the terrific Terriers win promotion to the PL you'll deffo be playing second fiddle to them at their stadium, you never know you might end up sharing with Sheffield at Bellevue on a few occasions, wouldn't that be something remembering the good, sorry bad old days when Shuddersfield were first formed
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| Quote ="chissitt"If the terrific Terriers win promotion to the PL you'll deffo be playing second fiddle to them at their stadium, you never know you might end up sharing with Sheffield at Bellevue on a few occasions, wouldn't that be something remembering the good, sorry bad old days when Shuddersfield were first formed
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Except it's not the terriers stadium like the Giant they own part shares in it- and not majority shares either and have a lease.
Unlike Wakefield who can boast full ownership of that pathetic crumbling excuse for a stadium .... oh ... hang on....
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| Quote ="jools"Except it's not the terriers stadium like the Giant they own part shares in it- and not majority shares either and have a lease.
Unlike Wakefield who can boast full ownership of that pathetic crumbling excuse for a stadium .... oh ... hang on....'"
Really I suppose you tossed up with the Terrific Terriers to see who played on Wednesday night, and you obviously lost
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| Quote ="chissitt"Really I suppose you tossed up with the Terrific Terriers to see who played on Wednesday night, and you obviously lost
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Not too bright down your way eh?
Playing Catalan- so zero away fans, we get few walk ups whatever night/day we play. It's Easter so a busy time- Let's move our game to Wednesday, we lose no revenue but get a couple of extra days recovery time than our Monday opposition... too smart for wakey?
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| Quote ="chissitt"If the terrific Terriers win promotion to the PL you'll deffo be playing second fiddle to them at their stadium, you never know you might end up sharing with Sheffield at Bellevue on a few occasions, wouldn't that be something remembering the good, sorry bad old days when Shuddersfield were first formed
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just to be clear on the shares at the stadium
40% football
40% council
20% giants
so yes we do play second fiddle to the football club at times. football is king in this country anyway. even wigan play second fiddle to their stadium partners.
where are shakefield playing next season?? not answered that one my bet would be dewsbury but then again you could end up with trips to coventry
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| Quote ="jools"Not too bright down your way eh?
Playing Catalan- so zero away fans, we get few walk ups whatever night/day we play. It's Easter so a busy time- Let's move our game to Wednesday, we lose no revenue but get a couple of extra days recovery time than our Monday opposition... too smart for wakey?'"
It matters little what day of the week you play Catalans they will bring zero fans, as you say it's a busy Easter and the Terrific Terriers would be expecting a bumper crowd against Preston as against yourselves who would only have the home fans what had not got anything planned for the weekend.
So what we have is you having to play second fiddle to the main tenants of the ground once again, and luckily for you having to play Wednesday gave you two extra days off to prepare for Monday, as for losing no revenue are you saying that playing on a Wednesday night as against playing good Friday means you will not lose revenue, and you say were not very bright down our way, your spin on the situation borders on the desperation but if it helps keep on believing it, love the insults btw
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| Quote ="brearley84"just to be clear on the shares at the stadium
40% football
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So lets be clear here, according to you your the poor relations in this senario and aren't second behind the Terriers but are in third place behind the council
Quote ="brearley84"so yes we do play second fiddle to the football club at times even wigan play second fiddle to their stadium partners.
where are shakefield playing next season?? not answered that one
my bet would be dewsbury
but then again you could end up with trips to coventry
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Not sure how bringing Wigan or Hull for that matter into your flimsy argument about you having to play second fiddle with your ground sharing, but at least it should help you mentally accepting the reality of the situation going forward.
Shakesfield Jesus your so predictable, No I don't know where we will be playing next season except that it will be in SL, are you confident enough to think you will with HKR waiting for you in the MPG asuming you get that far.
Just a thought if thinks don't go to plan whatever they may be, we could always do the unthinkable and stoop to the depths your lot took and take over another club, lets leave it at that brierley because your so out of your depth here, having said that you'd be out of your depth in a car park puddle
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| [code[/code Quote ="chissitt"It matters little what day of the week you play Catalans they will bring zero fans, as you say it's a busy Easter and the Terrific Terriers would be expecting a bumper crowd against Preston as against yourselves who would only have the home fans what had not got anything planned for the weekend.
So what we have is you having to play second fiddle to the main tenants of the ground once again, and luckily for you having to play Wednesday gave you two extra days off to prepare for Monday, as for losing no revenue are you saying that playing on a Wednesday night as against playing good Friday means you will not lose revenue, and you say were not very bright down our way, your spin on the situation borders on the desperation but if it helps keep on believing it, love the insults btw
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Do you know so much about our revenue streams. Pray tell.
Where exactly will we have lost large amounts of revenue playing on a Wednesday instead of a Thursday night which was when the game was scheduled originally? The attendance for this game was actually slightly higher than when we played Catalan on a Sunday afternoon last season!.....
Kirklees stadium development (they are the people who run the stadium) requested the change so that the groundstaff could prepare the ground well over the busy Easter period. Ken Davy, Richard thewlis are directors of KSDL a long with Dean Hoyle town directors oh and along with amongst others members of Huddersfield sporting pride, oh and Huddersfield community trust ....another two Ken Davy ventures...
So do let ken know if Wakefield need somewhere to play next season- I'm sure he would be willing to help you when Dewsbury can't.
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| Quote ="chissitt"So lets be clear here, according to you your the poor relations in this senario and aren't second behind the Terriers but are in third place behind the council
Not sure how bringing Wigan or Hull for that matter into your flimsy argument about you having to play second fiddle with your ground sharing, but at least it should help you mentally accepting the reality of the situation going forward.
Shakesfield
Jesus your so predictable, No I don't know where we will be playing next season except that it will be in SL, are you confident enough to think you will with HKR waiting for you in the MPG asuming you get that far.
Just a thought if thinks don't go to plan whatever they may be, we could always do the unthinkable and stoop to the depths your lot took and take over another club, lets leave it at that brierley because your so out of your depth here, having said that you'd be out of your depth in a car park puddle
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I think you might be better to concentrate on your own club and getting the ground sorted( which i hope you do by the way ) Things look a bit brighter now some of the Papers have got hold of the story.
I spent a lot of time watching Trin, Cas and Fev in my youth and i don't like to see any of them having problems " anymore than Hudd's ". I really hope you get the new ground in time for not too much damage to be done by having to move out of Wakey, I feel leaving the City on a permenent basis could spell the begining of the end for Trin and it would be a crying shame to lose a club with such a great history.
So i hope things go well for you, This season and in the longer term, but don't worry too much about the Giants, they have been in some pretty low places but they will survive, they may get relegated and it may be good for them but they will survive, They have a man behind them who shows unbielievable committment.
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I spent a lot of time watching Trin, Cas and Fev in my youth and i don't like to see any of them having problems " anymore than Hudd's ". I really hope you get the new ground in time for not too much damage to be done by having to move out of Wakey, I feel leaving the City on a permenent basis could spell the begining of the end for Trin and it would be a crying shame to lose a club with such a great history.
So i hope things go well for you, This season and in the longer term, but don't worry too much about the Giants, they have been in some pretty low places but they will survive, they may get relegated and it may be good for them but they will survive, They have a man behind them who shows unbielievable committment.'"
All I'm guilty of is asking number 84 if in view of the fact that once again he's bad mouthing one of your player's which in this case Danny Brough, in a proposed lighthearted manner, which clearly went over his head I asked if there was a possibility of him removing his avatar of Brough which seemed a likely choice after his condemnation of him, a straight yes or no would have been enough but why do that when he can throw a few insults in reply, so then the inevitable happens and he gets some back and then Miss self opinionated decides she'll stick her twopenneth in also with insults included and it goes down hill even more.
I have no more than a passing interest in Huddersfield giants, and I don't refer to them as Shudds, it's the Huddersfield board to discuss club matters but when you include other clubs then I'm sure you agree as a level headed fan that by doing so you also invite opinions from the people you are discussing, and unfortunately human nature being what it is, some like to give it but don't like it back.
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| Quote ="chissitt"All I'm guilty of is asking number 84 if in view of the fact that once again he's bad mouthing one of your player's which in this case Danny Brough, in a proposed lighthearted manner, which clearly went over his head I asked if there was a possibility of him removing his avatar of Brough which seemed a likely choice after his condemnation of him, a straight yes or no would have been enough but why do that when he can throw a few insults in reply, so then the inevitable happens and he gets some back and then Miss self opinionated decides she'll stick her twopenneth in also with insults included and it goes down hill even more.
I have no more than a passing interest in Huddersfield giants, and I don't refer to them as Shudds, it's the Huddersfield board to discuss club matters but when you include other clubs then I'm sure you agree as a level headed fan that by doing so you also invite opinions from the people you are discussing, and unfortunately human nature being what it is, some like to give it but don't like it back.'"
And yet here you are on someone else's board, stirring the pot...
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As against you making it up as you go along dear
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I have no more than a passing interest in Huddersfield giants, and I don't refer to them as Shudds, it's the Huddersfield board to discuss club matters but when you include other clubs then I'm sure you agree as a level headed fan that by doing so you also invite opinions from the people you are discussing, and unfortunately human nature being what it is, some like to give it but don't like it back.'"
and in reply to changing the avatar i said ..nah which means no... like other poster has said, not too bright down at shakefield
good luck on finding a new ground to play in.
sure we will hear from you many more times on this forum and your continued obsession with everything giants
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If brearley and Chissit want to carry on their love in can they just organise a date night and discuss it there.
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If brearley and Chissit want to carry on their love in can they just organise a date night and discuss it there.
Thanks'"
What a shame that a sport that has so little support in the general run of things, has so much inter club dislike, Not that it's peculiar to Giants/ Wakey.
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| back on topic
we lost against catalans
18 errors the main reason as to why followed by brough and his sin binning
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