You honestly think that Huddersfield are working harder than all the other clubs just because they have a new coach?

All the clubs will be/have been beasting their players!

The only time Huby won't have to work as hard will be in matches because the prop rotation at Trinity will be greater than that at the Giants.

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It seems he does. I have pondered this for a long time now, You have to think that KD is happy with things, or he is unable to change them for reasons known only to him.

Like most other people on here I get frustrated with what happens at the club, I would love to see some changes but i take the view that K D is the man putting his hand in his pocket, No KD no club, so if he is happy , or can put up with things as they are, Then i think i can manage too, In the end no one forces us to either get a ST or even go to a game.

The upside is that we are going to start getting good news at some point. Mr Davy knows we can not afford another season like last, It could finish us, and i don't think he is going to let that happen. onward and upwards.

I think Trinity could have a decent season myself, and i hope they do, I just wish they could get something sorted out regarding the ground. Regards Huby, he never seemed to quite get started for us, but he was excellent at Cas, maybe he will get that back.

Where has your objectivity gone meast? Huddersfield finished BOTTOM of the league last year. On top of the other departures they have just let someone who could be a quality prop go and now have ONE established Super League prop. No full back, a centre who wants to leave due to being underpaid. Massive gamble on 3 incoming CHAMPIONSHIP players. And the club couldn't have done any better? The only person you're kidding is yourself mate. Maybe your lad too. Come on, be fair.

To me it sounds like Ken Davy is trying to reduce costs. Most rich chairmen seem to run clubs at a loss and foot the bill, but at some stage want to reduce their liability and I think this maybe the case. Certainly looking to reduce the wage budget before getting new players, however it seems some of there took longer to finalise than thought so available player pool is decreasing unless some deal we agreed in principal.

Regarding pre-season and "easier" life at Wakefield. I don't think after last year your in a position to derive a team who finished 4 places above you. We have also brought in some good quality players.

Spot on Baron.

I personally am happy with the clear out every single player IF we had replacements for them all but obviously we don't yet and time is ticking away and we are going to have 2/3 players who are coming in new who have not been involved in pre season at all.

The real lack of depth is a massive issue and even 3 players coming in is not going to change that. As it stands Warrington, Wigan, St Helens, Hull, Cas, Wakey, Catalans all have stronger squads than us at present. (Wakey and Cas because of their depth). Leaves us, Leeds, Widnes, Leigh & Salford for 8th spot and all it takes is for 1 club to finish above us and were in the middle 8s again then anything can happen.

I don't think we will get relegated I think Widnes will get relegated this year and especially if the lose Kevin Brown. They have has poor recruitment like us.

So what has this Forum become meast and what did it used to be. I haven't posted for that long but i have read it on and off for quite a few years, I remember all the discussions ( even arguments ) over J Sharp , N brown and a whole host of other things, It doesnt seem to me to be much different today.

I don't really know what you would expect to get on a forum, other that what you do get ( every ones opinion ) It's just that most of them seem to upset you. But to be fair mate when a club hits bottom like we did last year you are hardly going to get hosts of people singing the clubs praises.
You appear to be happy to gobble up everything the club says and does as gospel, and anyone who doesn't is just spouting ( same old poop ) We each have our thoughts and opinions, you may not agree with them all but surely you must concede that some of them have a point .

The club must have been doing some things wrong for us to finish up where we are. If you can't see that, then as the Baron says you are the one, you are fooling.

Unhappy Huby.. Not good enough really. Players will be unhappy but it's not often made public and used as the headline.
Doesn't give our club any credit.
Good luck to him, hasn't been an easy ride at the Giants.

Any chance Crabtree may play out his final year?

Huby wasn't unhappy. He was told in OCTOBER by Rick Stone that he wasn't part of his plans and should find another club. End of. This happens in sport.

He was on circa £100,000 p/a. That's a large chunk of our budget. Stone wanted to spend that on younger and more hungry players. Am not sure what any of that is hard to Understand?

It's probably the bit where Huby is thanking the Giants for allowing him to move on and make a fresh start. Not sure he would be saying that if he was told to find another club.

It wouldn't be hard to understand if that was actually the case.
As it stands these hungry more youthful players haven't materialised- and if they do will join far too late....

Sorry, got confused by the story behind 'Unhappy Huby, joins Wakefield'
Expressing his desire to leave the John Smith Stadium and how he was unhappy under Rick Stone.

Wether it be the truth or not.. It makes our club look bad.

The Pantomime is actually being played out in real life this year - no need to book the LB Theatre.

spot on.

and regarding crabtree, no he wont come out of retirment, he cant now with the nose job anyway.

Incoming player to be announced shortly......

Presumably this will be Shannon Wakeman. I'd expect this guy to be on significantly less money than Huby or there would be no point to taking the gamble on him.

I have no problem with the Wakeman signing but he must be on less than Huby. He has been the best prop forward by far in the NSW championship and the standard is far far better than our championship. He plays big minutes, makes breaks, makes lots of metres and tackles hard. He is 26 so is still fairly young for a prop forward and his best days ahead of him. There are lots of fans who cant believe he hasn't been signed up by an NRL side.

Hes not an over the hill aussie coming for a pension. Hes in the prime of his career and will have the bit between to prove he should of had the chance playing in the NRL.

Lets face it if there was a young player in our championship with his stats there would be super league clubs queuing up to sign him - similar to Chris Hill/Alex Walmsley when they were in the championship.

seem to be getting rid of andersons castleford buddies with wood, ellis (loan) and now huby

prob all came to training together in same car too!

I wasn't comparing what we do to other clubs i'm comparing what our new conditioning and coaching team are doing compared to in the past .....which apparently is a lot more than they have been used to, hence why certain players are finding it harder!!

Was it away to Leigh when Huby dropped the ball 5 times in 5 hit ups in the opening 10 minutes?

might have been but i recall him doing same in a home game for us too in middle 8's!

lets face it on form he has shown for us he wont be missed at all

such a shame as i had high hopes for him

leaves us with some extra salary cap for stone anyway which is good because he had his hands tied abit with the bulls 3 already signed, just getting abit late to be doing deals

Huby never played the same for us as he did for Cas, remember though he was a proven player with a very good offload, Wonder why he went backwards, in fact can you name me a player that went forwards in the last 3/4 years, Maybe Gerry.

Regards this season I don't think anyone is expecting us to do more than survive. For me treat it as a season of building, or at least learning what we have got in terms of the Bulls lads and our own youngsters. Don't be dishing out anymore long contracts, lets be ready for the start of 2018 season with a chance to sign players while they are there, rather than what's left.
We are going to get more players yet, but we are not going to challenge for anything barring a miracle, so don't be paying over the odd's for anyone. We just need to make the 8 this season, If RS does his job and get's them up for it, with the new conditioner we should be capable of that , and lets get our game right and play football that people want to watch ( like we did now and then last season ) If we make the 8 this season, that will do me, anything better will be a bonus.

Spot on Jo

I'm confident we'll make the 8 with what we have, the signings expected will just improve the likelihood

Then as you say we can get the players signed in good time to push on again

Jo you speak a lot of sense and always do. I agree with everything you are saying apart from I think we have a slight chance of making the 8 and currently I think we will finish 8th, 9th or 10th battling with Leeds and Wakefield for those positions.

I think Leigh and Widnes will finish 11th and 12th. I think the new coach and conditioner will make the difference but I think our lack of depth will cost us again and we may just miss out of the 8.

However, I do think just 2 players Full Back and Prop will be the difference between finishing 7th/8th or 9th/10th. If we can then get a hooker and another prop for depth we could be pushing for top 5/6 and I genuinely believe that - especially if Mamo will do as well as what Stones believes he will in this competition.

Then hopefully the year after we can be a top 4 team once more.