Of course you are, that's why you keep going on about it. He has signed a contract to start when his contract finishes and he is over the age needed to pay a fee, the RFL have told Hull it's fine, not sure what is so hard to understand.

That is called a pre contract which either party can change

They will be done binding element or they is basically no point in it.

Exactly- so pay us.

You should address that PAY UP to Thewlis. He was the one who was playing games over a new contract and improved terms
Why did he leave negotiations so long ? He only does deals with his favourite Agent. Well known fact. Now just accept that we have lost a Good player and shut up.

He didn't leave negotiations so long- jake was offered more than we have ever offered a kid his age- rumoured to be 46k a long time ago- good money for a 21 yr old. I guess all the money, effort, education and time given by the Giants- much by volunteers - wasn't worth extra 4K hull have given to Jake.
It's his decision to leave fair enough. I'm not bothered if that's his wish. Players come and go- and I doubt he will play as well as he did on Thursday again for us. He was being slated by some on here at the start of the season remember!

As for yourself- You claim to know so much about what goes on at the club- if you are that close to the club yet slate them on here it appears there's little loyalty exists at the Giants. Either that or you know less than you claim.

As, I've said, but you don't seem to understand, the RFL will decide and have already indicated we have done nothing wrong.

Connor will be a Hull player next year, they may be a fee, but I very much doubt it.

yes they have combined well together many times

simpson cover, need a squad

regarding connor, what i dont like is why hull fc saw the need to announce a pre agreement?

all it does is unsettle things

have we announced, ormsby, ferguson, gaskell? no..maybe we should so what other clubs seem to enjoy doing

Could be risky brearley. Other clubs could now be looking Connors way and know that he will go for money- remember griffin had already agreed to sign for saints, then changed his mind didn't turn up for the medical and signed on the dotted lines for Leeds.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that it might not be about money particularly, for Conner. He may just want a change of clubs for his own reasons, I know it's difficult to appreciate anyone wanting to leave a club with such a unblemished record in it's own dealings with players, but it does happen.

If it is the extra money that has taken him away ( how does anyone know ) Then who can blame him for trying to do the best for himself, Except for those who would never consider a new contract and pay rise for themselves. If and when he goes it won't be long before he falls in for all the slagging off that most who leave the Giants qualify for, Which I imagine will leave him Brocken hearted.

If Hull have breached any rules, I'm sure the RFL will rule they have to pay us, just like we had to pay Bradford.

So right then Connor is a better full back just after 1 game,but he's offski and Brierley is a better full back but he's a half back,Jared Simpson is a better FB but dunt get picked. So where does this leave us ?

Leaves us wanting a coach who WILL hopefully decide where they all should play and get them giving their utmost for the club on a regular basis

Lets hope we get one -and leave this seasons upheavals behind for goodness sake!!

Looks like I was wrong, good news for you he is staying, I would guess two things have happened.

He had been offered the same deal as Hull and he wants to play FB, which is unlikely to happen at Hull.

might not play full back here either with brierley, one thing is for sure is that he needs to nail down a position!

Centre? Esp if Wardle is going in 2018. Although Sam wood is knocking on the door too!

I think Connors best games have been at fullback or 6

Maybe brierly touted as our fullback unsettled him and now Anderson is gone something else was sorted?

Sam had a great game vs Hull.. Was really impressed with him, in particular his defence. Fonua was probably there best player and he almost dealt with everything.

Agreed, always surprised me how strong and composed he is in defence. I was worried at the start of the game with Brierley and Wood together on the left, but they scrambled well and muscled up against some big fringe players for Hull.

I was massively worried. But fair play to him, he performed much better than many other players from other teams have this year vs Hull's right edge. Also, as you mention, Brierley really got stuck.. Reminded me of how Brough defends.

My lad commented Sam had spiders legs!
He's gone against some big names at Wigan too but he certainly doesn't give the appearance of being fazed by that kind of thing at all. Very composed defensively. He did miss a few tackles but I remember he missed one tackle in the second half and made a massive effort to catch the guy and put him down after.

More like a daddy long legs



Size will come as he matures, but he obviously has the mental toughness and correct attitude to make it at SL level.

connor is too slow for a centre, half back or full back but still half back id like to see maybe long term for brough

sam wood looks very strong in defence

still see murphy and ormsby on that side though (if signed, hull seem to announce signings early...)

Not sure Connors much slower than Murph to be honest as regards centre and hey we played Eorl there ?
De Vere wasnt lightening fast -it was brains and technique that made him special !

One of Jakes main assets are his quick thinking (Saints at Newcastle and his efforts squeezing over in the corner in subsequent matches) - they can compensate for natural pace - so if hes staying its up to the new coach to recognize his qualities /agree where he should be played (with jake) and give him a run in that position (and see if it works and he settles in)

If we`re looking long term -- then perhaps Brearley and young Simpson/ Ellis at halves where theyre not lined up as cannon fodder for the opponent forwards with the former as possible wing cover

Get an established shape and let the lads develop a relationship with the players alongside instead of all this constant musical chairs chop and change that (IMO) has disrupted any consistency throughout the last couple o seasons

Tbf crackers- the chip and change this season has been needs must!