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| Quote ="MagicCarlos"Who's gonna play 9 for ya when Shaun Lunt is at Hull KR?'"
jamie ellis
luke robinson
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kruise leeming
i would imagine any ( 2) of those would like they have done when lunt was injured
strange question
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| IF Lunt is happy to sign for rovers then he can go for me. It would tell me all I need to know about his ambition.
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| Quote ="jools"IF Lunt is happy to sign for rovers then he can go for me. It would tell me all I need to know about his ambition.'"
Look at HKR's signings this season and look at ours and tell me which team seems to be ambitious.
Whether it comes off for HKR who knows. But they have an aggresive pack talented halves and some speedy backs.
They have got better .
Have we ?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Look at HKR's signings this season and look at ours and tell me which team seems to be ambitious.
Whether it comes off for HKR who knows. But they have an aggresive pack talented halves and some speedy backs.
They have got better .
Have we ?'"
See this is the thing HKR have got better on paper, you can sign quality players an it all looks rosey before a ball is kicked (thrown)
For me our signings have not been many or the marquee because they don't really need to be. I feel that our club is looking to not just the upcoming season but well into the future. The full time academy is evident of that approach. Our squad is quite young with younger lads already looking good to replace the older ones when needed.
We currently have a team that can consistently place high up in the league and compete with all teams. In a pre season you can put in new attacking, defensive systems, work on new one off plays and get fitness, strength, skills on the up. Players can learn, adapt and get better. The fact our squad is the same will hopefully get them playing better together and for each other the longer they are with each other.
Don't get me wrong I would love some big signings that would make some ripples in super league but I just don't think its a necessity.
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| we have shown over the last few years, that we aren't a team built on marquee players, but a team built on fairly solid foundations with players improving, i would say the exceptions are brough, ferres, and possibly robinson, who were all fairly high profile when they came to us.
the rest have been well coached youngsters and rejects( i mean that in the best possible way) and we have reaped the benefits of that.
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| Hull KR are ambitious and so are we in different ways. I think we are aiming to do a Wigan and bring in our own players from our accamadies and youth system.
I'm not certain not Hull KR's up and coming players but they are trying to build a side that will compete... I'm not sure if they are aiming for a quick fix. Lunt would fit in well with them but I think he's an inspiring hooker who took his chance. A good role model for our youth.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Look at HKR's signings this season and look at ours and tell me which team seems to be ambitious.
Whether it comes off for HKR who knows. But they have an aggresive pack talented halves and some speedy backs.
They have got better .
Have we ?'"
Look at salfords signings last season- were they ambitious? Did it do them any good?
Look at the season KR had last year, did they need to get better?
Look at Chase's move to Salford, did he show ambition? Amors move to saints? Different yes?
If Lunt were to go to Wigan, saints or dare I say it Leeds then that would be a different story. A move from us to KR...
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Look at HKR's signings this season and look at ours and tell me which team seems to be ambitious.
Whether it comes off for HKR who knows. But they have an aggresive pack talented halves and some speedy backs.
They have got better .
Have we ?'"
absolute tosh
hull kr have this turnaround of players every pre season, no stability at all, did same last season and were awful this year as predicted. bring in overseas players by the load too
oh and the signing of craig huby is one of the biggest signing the giants have made in years.. how this shows lack of ambition i dont know
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| I lunt was to go then robinson would become 80mins hooker, but for now its nothing more than an interest. wouldnt surprise though as i think lunt's commitment to the giants has been in question for a while.
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| We had a mediocre season and finished 3rd
We need consistancy not big names that might not work
Unless we sign someone like SBW or GI then the academy is the best way to spend the club's money
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| Quote ="Code13"We had a mediocre season and finished 3rd
We need consistancy not big names that might not work
Unless we sign someone like SBW or GI then the academy is the best way to spend the club's money'"
In the long term i agree. It is the best way to spend our limited resources
BUT when posters come on here and say Lunt lacks ambition by going to HKR when they have just signed the following players
Albert Kelly
Maurice "Bobby" Blair
Kevin Larroyer
Kenneth Sio
Kieran Dixon
LUNT ?
is crass stupidity and the sort of arrogance we rightly criticise Wigan and Leeds fans for.
Particularly when they are playing behind a pack which ripped our much daunted big pack a new one at Huddersfield last season
I would ask the question of Jools
ARE we so much better than HKR that Lunt moving there is a lack of ambition. ?
Or are you just caught up in your C and G specs and have switched your brain off.
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| Durham- It's about the ambition of Lunt as a player-
I will answer you question with my own.
Is he any more likely to win silverware with KR than us?
He has already said he would like to go to aus, with a year left on his contract with us, is signing for KR on a few years less ambitious than seeing out his season with us then trying his hand down under?
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| Durham I think you need too go back and look at what happened last season
Most of the games we lost last season were because the team were lazy and thought they could win without working for it
Rovers at home is a case in point - for 70 minutes we were so much betterthan them it was funny but lazyness meant we didn't put the effort in to make the scores and then put the cue on the rack with 10 minutes left
We dont need new players we need the ones we have to play for 80 minutes like they mean it
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| Quote ="jools"Durham- It's about the ambition of Lunt as a player-
I will answer you question with my own.
=#80FF80=#FF0000=#FF0000Is he any more likely to win silverware with KR than us?
He has already said he would like to go to aus, with a year left on his contract with us, is signing for KR on a few years less ambitious than seeing out his season with us then trying his hand down under?'"
Is he any less likely to win anything at KR.
Our best season is behind us.
Unless we suddenly get a good crop of youngsters like Leeds did with Sinfield and McGuire or Man U with Beckham and Scholes we are not going to win anything.
We will be steady but we are not going to win any trophies any time soon.
Do you think an ageing Brough and Robbo backed by Ellis and Wood are going to trouble any of the top teams in a 4 knockout game play off series. ?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Is he any less likely to win anything at KR.
Our best season is behind us.
Unless we suddenly get a good crop of youngsters like Leeds did with Sinfield and McGuire or Man U with Beckham and Scholes we are not going to win anything.
We will be steady but we are not going to win any trophies any time soon.
Do you think an ageing Brough and Robbo backed by Ellis and Wood are going to trouble any of the top teams in a 4 knockout game play off series. ?'"
Do you think KR will?
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| Quote ="jools"Do you think KR will?'"
1w
They have as much chance as us.
Hence my original question .
Why have a go at Lunt for lacking ambition when he might be going to a team which looks like they have as much chance as us next season if not more !
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| I dissagree they will
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"1w
They have as much chance as us.
Hence my original question .
Why have a go at Lunt for lacking ambition when he might be going to a team which looks like they have as much chance as us next season if not more !'"
Because I don't think they do have more chance. Wholesale changes just don't work, ask Leeds, ask us and ask salford.
Anyhow it sounds as if he's off. With journos saying he's defo going to replace
Hodgson. (They are always right )
What a shame if true -but if it is its a case of Thanks for the memories ..... NEXT!
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| oliver roberts should be challenging for a place in the starting 17 next season... with SL experience already under his belt. good competition for places
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| Jack Hughes vying for a spot in the second row with Taai and Ferres then..
lawrence,bailey,oliver roberts also and fairbank for competition in that area
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| do we think that ellis and brough will be partners next season at half back?
robbo interchanging with lunt at hooker, would like to see this
wood also give us options
i think anderson needs to find his best 17 combos as early as poss!!!
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Grix is getting on, let's blood his replacement early and get him settled behind a quality back line! Lunt will almost definitely be gone next year and I'd like to see Leeming (an out an out hooker, not a half back turned hooker) replace him, so this year put him on the bench to interchange with Lunt so he can get the exposure and experience required.
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| Wood was in cracking form when he got injured and was turning into a very good halfback
I'm hoping to see more of the same from him
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| Quote ="brearley84"do we think that ellis and brough will be partners next season at half back?
robbo interchanging with lunt at hooker, would like to see this
wood also give us options
i think anderson needs to find his best 17 combos as early as poss!!!'"
I think Anderson has already said that Robbo will be the interchange Hooker with Lunt starting and I'm happy to see this. I think it will be then upto Ellis and Wood to fight it out to start alongside Danny.
I'm more intrigued to see who starts at full back. As I've said before on here, I'm a big Grix fan but I'm certainly wouldn't have a problem if Murphy gets the shirt. I do feel though that Grix is a full back or he doesn't play - he shouldn't be considered in the halves unless we have an injury crisis.
We started to bring out the better side of Broughton the longer the season went on and the more he played so happy to see him continue on the wing if Murphy gets the full back spot. The other wing is sorted with Jerry and I'm sure we'll have a rejuvanated Leroy and player of the year Wardle in the centres.
Connor & Leeming should be given more and more game time as the season goes on but at the moment they wouldn't get in my first choice 17.
The forwards. Crabtree, Ferres, Ta'ai, Huby and Bailey are certainties for me - Hughes, Koppy, Mullally, Johnson & youngsters like Roberts to fight out the remaining spots.
While I do think we currently look to start the season with a weaker squad, on paper at least, than last season, potentially naming a 17 while leaving Grix, Wood, Connor, Leeming, Mullally and Roberts at home shows we have a depth of strength of both experience and potential that we shouldn't underestimate.
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| Quote ="Unbeliever"I think Anderson has already said that Robbo will be the interchange Hooker with Lunt starting and I'm happy to see this. I think it will be then upto Ellis and Wood to fight it out to start alongside Danny.
I'm more intrigued to see who starts at full back. As I've said before on here, I'm a big Grix fan but I'm certainly wouldn't have a problem if Murphy gets the shirt. I do feel though that Grix is a full back or he doesn't play - he shouldn't be considered in the halves unless we have an injury crisis.
We started to bring out the better side of Broughton the longer the season went on and the more he played so happy to see him continue on the wing if Murphy gets the full back spot. The other wing is sorted with Jerry and I'm sure we'll have a rejuvanated Leroy and player of the year Wardle in the centres.
Connor & Leeming should be given more and more game time as the season goes on but at the moment they wouldn't get in my first choice 17.
The forwards. Crabtree, Ferres, Ta'ai, Huby and Bailey are certainties for me - Hughes, Koppy, Mullally, Johnson & youngsters like Roberts to fight out the remaining spots.
While I do think we currently look to start the season with a weaker squad, on paper at least, than last season, potentially naming a 17 while leaving Grix, Wood, Connor, Leeming, Mullally and Roberts at home shows we have a depth of strength of both experience and potential that we shouldn't underestimate.'"
yep agree with all of that too
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