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| Quote ="bilko1941"Could it be Jo that we sign players for the way they play in the NRL then try to change their style when we get them?Frank Dyson once told me you cannot coach ability or flair but you can coach it out of players.Perhaps this could be one reason.'"
Makes a lot of sense mate, and it seems to happen a lot at the Giants. A cracking example of coaching effects on a player was Big Eorl , He became quite a good player under Brown offloading the lot, Anderson just turned him back into a battering ram. so yes you probably have the answer.
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| Got it wrong on Matagi, hes due back in training next week
We are trying to move on Uate, Frawley and Seb. If we manage to get rid of all 3 then well see Sezer + another signing
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| Just read an optimistic article on Zero Tackle written about 12 hours ago regarding Sezer.
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| The initial odds from the bookies have us equal favourites to go down.
Go on the wakey site and all they bang in about is how unlucky they were with injuries part way through the season. How they had the worse injury crisis than any other club.
Everyone seems to forget there were at least two games when we couldn’t even name an 18 man squad!!!
Get our injury problems out of our way and we will do ok. Positive about our recruitment and sezer is the icing on the cake for me.
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| Quote ="jools"The initial odds from the bookies have us equal favourites to go down.
Go on the wakey site and all they bang in about is how unlucky they were with injuries part way through the season. How they had the worse injury crisis than any other club.
Everyone seems to forget there were at least two games when we couldn’t even name an 18 man squad!!!
Get our injury problems out of our way and we will do ok. Positive about our recruitment and sezer is the icing on the cake for me.'"
I think one of the worst things you ever did was get rid of Greg Brown. Since he came to Salford he's kept a small squad pretty much injury free, and we've never been fitter as a squad. certainly made a massive difference at the back end of last season. A very important cog for us, and I think Hudds conditioning and recovery hasn't been the same since.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I think one of the worst things you ever did was get rid of Greg Brown. Since he came to Salford he's kept a small squad pretty much injury free, and we've never been fitter as a squad. certainly made a massive difference at the back end of last season. A very important cog for us, and I think Hudds conditioning and recovery hasn't been the same since.'"
It’s not only not been the same-it’s been no where near. But money talks.
In the mean time we had staff who put players on the wrong recovery program which resulted in making things worse!
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I think one of the worst things you ever did was get rid of Greg Brown. Since he came to Salford he's kept a small squad pretty much injury free, and we've never been fitter as a squad. certainly made a massive difference at the back end of last season. A very important cog for us, and I think Hudds conditioning and recovery hasn't been the same since.'"
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| Quote ="jools"It’s not only not been the same-it’s been no where near. But money talks.
In the mean time we had staff who put players on the wrong recovery program which resulted in making things worse!'"
Wasn't the money. He had a massive fallout with Anderson.
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| Quote ="GiantJake1988"Got it wrong on Matagi, hes due back in training next week
We are trying to move on Uate, Frawley and Seb. If we manage to get rid of all 3 then well see Sezer + another signing'"
Seb - season long loan to Salford.
Uate - seen on twitter training with giants yesterday. Moving on?
Frawley - Being reported on Fax forum "a near neighbour providing them with a half back"
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| Quote ="Fartown58"Seb - season long loan to Salford.
Uate - seen on twitter training with giants yesterday. Moving on?
Frawley - Being reported on Fax forum "a near neighbour providing them with a half back"'"
Do they mean grix?
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| Interesting times... I think that we have definitely strengthened but Sezer will make a massive difference if he comes. If not for the SBW signing an NRL grand final half back, who played a big part in turning around Canberra’s season would be headline news as he should be in his prime.
Equally as important is working out where we stand with Leroy this worries me as his partnership with Jerry was always worth a lot of tries each season. In this years competitive league we can’t afford to carry a player who might play at some point and if there is a risk to his long term health should his knee/s go again. Will Jordan Turner be fit?
If Seb made way for Sezer does Frawley make way for a potential replacement for Leroy ?
Given a couple more smart moves we should see a much better team with some ‘bang’ in the forwards I can see a Sezer/Gaskell half back partnership doing very well indeed behind some go forward.
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| I think I saw turner in some photos of them training this week but it was difficult to tell if it was him- my son thought it was though.
Don’t think Leroy was in any of them.
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| Quote ="jools"Do they mean grix?'"
No because Grix has already been announced as a Halifax player. Folk on the Fax forum suggesting another signing.
Also heard that Leroy has another pot on. Hope that's not true but if it is that doesn't look promising for this season.
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| Quote ="fartown since 1961"
If Seb made way for Sezer does Frawley make way for a potential replacement for Leroy ?
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Latrell Mitchell is available! (We wish)
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| Gigot still available too...
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| Surprised gigot hasn’t been snapped up.
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| Don't know if he would want to play right centre, but would be a good replacement for Leroy if he can't get back fit
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"Don't know if he would want to play right centre, but would be a good replacement for Leroy if he can't get back fit'"
Isn't Chester Butler a Right centre ?
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| Yeah believe he was a centre / second row. Same as Sam Wood
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"Yeah believe he was a centre / second row. Same as Sam Wood'"
What is Sam's current situation at the club? Never seen him have a bad game. Hes always looked like a competent super league player. Great in defence and good at close range in attack.
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| I'm not sure, he's still with us, I'm sure I've seen photos of him at preseason training. He's always looked a good player and a good talker when I've seen him, maybe just a case that his face doesn't fit, or maybe will get his chance this year? Might be a good opportunity for him to play regularly in our systems with the reseves
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"I'm not sure, he's still with us, I'm sure I've seen photos of him at preseason training. He's always looked a good player and a good talker when I've seen him, maybe just a case that his face doesn't fit, or maybe will get his chance this year? Might be a good opportunity for him to play regularly in our systems with the reseves'"
Sam is back and training- I agree he’s a solid player and yes a good talker-
the only person who’s been paired at half back With brough who has had brough say positive things about them that I can recall!
He may get a chance to shine in the reserves and with our centres not really set in stone For various reasons may get a chance to impress woolford and picked to be in first team
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| I'd forgotten about the time we had him playing in the halves, we've really struggled for HBs recently haven't we.
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| Good to hear. Lets hope he can kick on this season and get some first team game time.
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| Quote ="HuddsRL5"I'd forgotten about the time we had him playing in the halves, we've really struggled for HBs recently haven't we.'"
Not in the least surprising the way our pack has performed in that period. The last time we had a strong pack that held it's own Brough won man of steel and on the strength of that we won the Hubcap, Since then as you rightly say we have struggled . Hopefully the penny has finally dropped and the powers that be have realised that halves don't shine behind beaten forwards.
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