They were doing the captains run when I was driving past this morning so stopped and watched for 5 mins. From what I could see Jerry was training and looked fine to me. Woolford mentioned Darnell was in the centres again this week but it looked to me as though one of the Seniors were training inside him, Darnell was over the other side. Maybe Jake is missing again so Darnell moves to left centre with Dom Young on the wing?? Hopefully Jake is fit though as I thought he was quality last week.

If Darnell does move to centre permanently then it surely means Turner will move to loose forward next year as cant see us having 4 centres, especially as youd expect Jake Wardle to stake a claim for a starting spot after another pre season.

If we do bring a full back in for a couple of years while Louis develops further then I think we have our back line well and truly covered for years to come.

Louis to take over the 1 shirt in 2 years time.
Innes already has in many ways but youd expect him to take over the 5 shirt well and truly when Uate goes end of 2021.
Jake Wardle could take over the 4 shirt next year, definitely in 2021.
Darnell will take over Leroys 3 shirt in 2021 (sooner if Leroy hangs them up)
Dom Young to replace Jerry on the right when he retires.

You sure about that???

Hopefully lads can do it again tonight but Catalan pack is a lot bigger than ours and with only one of the two polar bears outnight really needs to be a good game for Matagi

I was right next to the pass in the giants “forward pass “ try. No way was it forward.

Sixty minutes of drivel from Giants and then when they finally start playing the ref takes the game off them with an awful decision.

Assessment...

We are so light-weight, it is unreal. Barring Taai, we have no strength.

Our strike props have all of a sudden decided to try to break the line with their backside instead of just trying to bust through. Those that do, make no yards.

Our right side can't tackle, our left side can't pass to hand.

Our line speed is dismal.

We have no speed in the three quarters and if we do, we can't utilise it.

We have no last tackle options.

We can't defend kicks and have even stopped catching unopposed bombs.

Someone was once made to look silly when they said you can't win anything with kids. However, when the kids are built like that, it's true. It really is like men against boys.

People are bagging Frawley, but how can a half play inventive rugby behind that pack.

But it's alright because most of our team are home grown and that's all that counts.

We need 3 new props to replace Matagi, Seb and Clough

Our two best props are a winger and a second row.....

simple question would Clough, Matagi, Seb, Bruno or Murphy get in a top 5 team? simple answer is no.

Murphy is past it now and should be a squad player.

Matagi was a gamble which hasn't paid off. People try tell me hea a unit. Really? Looks small compared to most teams props

Seb ha she deteriorated so much. He's uselessness now.

Clough did well last year but still not got the size.

Bruno is the best out of the 5 but I'm not a sure he's even good enough for a top 5 team

Plus the like and of Ferguson who needs to retire now, his body can't hack it

Seb running straight for the first time this year in his second stint was a highlight...

never looked like winning lastnight

kids couldnt back up as expected , need some senior players back asap.

mind you even the likes of mcgillvary and gaskell are letting us down at times now!

roll on next week for another team selection merry go round

erm we knew last season we were a lightweight team

what was woolfords answer to solve it, nothing... well suppose you can say matagi was his answer



least we will get rid of mellor and replace with edwards next season, bit more size on that score

hopefully next week we will get obrien and cudjoe back... better team then

what was attendance?

Stop dreaming giantsrl any player who has been out as long as Leroy hasn't a cat in hell chance of regaining full match fitness all he will achieve is another injury!!!!! By the way just over 4,000 the attendance.

Woolfords answer was to go with a mobile pack, many thought was quite sensible given the reduction in substitutions.....- the problem is a mobile pack only works if the pack is actually mobile
And since our pack has two speeds- slow and stop, without an offload or side step among them they aren’t able to compete.

well they say he will play next week... heard that one before mind.

if he can have an injury free pre season without surgery like he has had to have past two then hopefully he can get back to not missing games but age catching up, one things for sure we need our captain back

thanks was hoping for over 4k

Bring on the championship, A chance to get rid of all the yesterdays men like Cudjo Ferguson Bruno etc and the high flying big name duds from overseas. A chance to bring on some promising younger players and get them up to a higher level instead of using them like Chessmen. For the last 5 years we have had the worst pack in the league bar none,Every team we play just roll us down the field and we play most of the game in our 22., how is any half ever going to be any good behind a pack that just roll over. If we survive this season it could be the worst thing that could happen because nothing will change it will just be more of the same drivel. Its gone on for years now and enough is enough. This all depends on the club finding someone who has some idea about quality players and how to get them wanting to play and win for the giants of course, which eliminates most of who has been running the club for the last 10 years, so i wont be holding my breath, The one saving grace is you can always not bother to go.

Erm- if we are relegated to championship then Cudjoe, Ferguson, Bruno etc would be better than what else we would be able to attract. These are players not costing us much!
Just who do you think would want to sign for a championship side......
We would be able to get rid of the overpaid overseas players though.

Yes i take your point jools i should have said that we would be able to be rid of them when we came back up, which i feel would be sooner rather than later. didn't make myself clear sorry.

Half the young players we have now would leave so we’d be left with nothing but the yesterdays men

Be careful what you wish for. Getting out of the Championship is not easy nor is attracting decent players for that level. Leigh and Widnes will attest to that.

If we went down there would never be a chance of coming back up.

Kelly would be gone and any decent youngsters would be snapped up like they were before going to Leeds Wire and Bradford

Our best option is try ride it out a few more years and then the youngsters will be physically ready for super league week in week out that’s when we’ll be able to try push for top 5

you have been wanting us to be relegated for years... great fan

Says mr positive...

,
I don't particularly want championship rugby GIANTSRL I just think it might be a way of breaking the never ending spiral of dross that we get served up year after year. I dont know how long you have watched them but in my case it has been 30 years, In that time we had a good spell under A Murphy and a better one under N Brown, A season when we won the Hub cap on the strength of Browns work and all the rest have been making up the numbers and bumping along the bottom. Thats around 25years or so of dreams that next year could be our year only to be the same old tripe,
The club is going nowhere, Do you see anything else breaking the mould , I'm too old to believe in dreams mate, but by all means you keep on dreaming, Maybe the Rugby fairies will come and spread some magic dust, myself i think it;s going to take a bit more